Obama will not sign GOP law to extend subsidies-Breaking

[Staidhup]

Shared risk and pools are nothing more than legerdemain at its best. But then again those uneducated enough to have voted for this fool diverse no better.

 

[charwin95]

If the SCOTUS sides with the GOP they will lose the next election.

If the SCOTUS sides with Obamacare the GOP will lose the next election.

When the GOP has nothing to lose then taking their own constituents down the drain with them seems like a reasonable course to take.

These people better pray. They asked for it. I know at least couple of people that can't get coverage because of existing conditions. They are not with ACA but with anthem. They are pissed. They are Republicans. I'm very sure there are thousands of these people. For GOP you can kiss 2016 goodbye.

So many crystal ball readers! Please...any more predictions?

You do not need crystal ball....You need a very minimum common sense.

 

[bendog]

Republicans to Obama:

You didn't stop us from fucking up your bill so it is YOUR fault

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

You're right. The plaintiffs are citizens who don't want to buy insurance. However, the AG of the state filed a brief supporting their interpretation of the law. And the plaintiffs attorneys are funded by others who seek to get rid of Obamacare.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The voters will not buy your argument, WQ.

All they will see is their subsidies are gone because our GOP would not compromise. They won't blame BHO.

Takes two to compromise, Jake. Obama has already said he refuses to compromise.

Now tell me again who will be blamed?

If it is four words vs no poison pills (we have both agreed modified tort reform and inter-state opportunities are not poison pills), I will agree with you. But . . . if our congressional leaders go for the biggies (pre-qualification of applicants, etc.), we will get ground into the dirt.

 

[Obiwan]

Republicans to Obama:

You didn't stop us from fucking up your bill so it is YOUR fault

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

You're right. The plaintiffs are citizens who don't want to buy insurance. However, the AG of the state filed a brief supporting their interpretation of the law. And the plaintiffs attorneys are funded by others who seek to get rid of Obamacare.

Interesting point.....

Attorney General of Virginia - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

List of recent Attorneys General[edit]
Main article: List of Attorneys General of Virginia
Name Term Party Notes
John R. Saunders February 1, 1918 – March 17, 1934 Democratic Died in office
Abram Penn Staples March 22, 1934 – October 6, 1947 Democratic Resigned to become judge of the Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals
Harvey Black Apperson October 7, 1947 – February 2, 1948 Democratic Appointed by Governor; Died in office
James Lindsay Almond February 11, 1948 – September 16, 1957 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Kenneth Cartwright Patty September 1957 – January 1958 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Albertis Sydney Harrison January 1958 – April 1961 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Frederick Thomas Gray May 1961 – January 1962 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Robert Young Button January 1962 – January 1970 Democratic
Andrew Pickens Miller January 1970 – January 1977 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Anthony Francis Troy January 1977 – January 1978 Democratic
J. Marshall Coleman January 1978 – January 1982 Republican
Gerald Baliles January 1982 – June 30, 1985 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
William Broaddus 1985 – 1986 Democratic
Mary Sue Terry 1986 – January 1993 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Stephen D. Rosenthal 1993 – 1994 Democratic
Jim Gilmore 1994 – June 11, 1997 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Richard Cullen June 11, 1997 – January 17, 1998 Republican
Mark Earley January 17, 1998 – June 4, 2001 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Randolph A. Beales July 11, 2001 – January 12, 2002 Republican
Jerry Kilgore January 12, 2002 – February 1, 2005 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Judith Jagdmann February 1, 2005 – January 14, 2006 Republican
Bob McDonnell January 14, 2006 – February 20, 2009 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Bill Mims February 20, 2009 – January 16, 2010 Republican
Ken Cuccinelli January 16, 2010 – January 11, 2014 Republican
Mark Herring January 11, 2014 – present Democratic



Maybe at least one Democrat doesn't like Obamacare, huh???????

 

[Derideo_Te]

"If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands" will not sell with the voters.

Anymore than the shutdowns. What you think does not matter. Only what the voters think counts.

Now if the GOP can show that modified tort reform and inter-state cooperatives have the votes, then the fix can be made, allowing states that want their own programs can have them.

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

WQ disagrees. The others don't matter, because they are simply haters, and haters hate. Talk with WQ.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Republicans to Obama:

You didn't stop us from fucking up your bill so it is YOUR fault

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

House Republicans filed a lawsuit against ObamaCare and Republicans filed the current lawsuit that is being considered by the SCOTUS.

 

[bendog]

Republicans to Obama:

You didn't stop us from fucking up your bill so it is YOUR fault

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

You're right. The plaintiffs are citizens who don't want to buy insurance. However, the AG of the state filed a brief supporting their interpretation of the law. And the plaintiffs attorneys are funded by others who seek to get rid of Obamacare.

Interesting point.....

Attorney General of Virginia - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

List of recent Attorneys General[edit]
Main article: List of Attorneys General of Virginia
Name Term Party Notes
John R. Saunders February 1, 1918 – March 17, 1934 Democratic Died in office
Abram Penn Staples March 22, 1934 – October 6, 1947 Democratic Resigned to become judge of the Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals
Harvey Black Apperson October 7, 1947 – February 2, 1948 Democratic Appointed by Governor; Died in office
James Lindsay Almond February 11, 1948 – September 16, 1957 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Kenneth Cartwright Patty September 1957 – January 1958 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Albertis Sydney Harrison January 1958 – April 1961 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Frederick Thomas Gray May 1961 – January 1962 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Robert Young Button January 1962 – January 1970 Democratic
Andrew Pickens Miller January 1970 – January 1977 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Anthony Francis Troy January 1977 – January 1978 Democratic
J. Marshall Coleman January 1978 – January 1982 Republican
Gerald Baliles January 1982 – June 30, 1985 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
William Broaddus 1985 – 1986 Democratic
Mary Sue Terry 1986 – January 1993 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Stephen D. Rosenthal 1993 – 1994 Democratic
Jim Gilmore 1994 – June 11, 1997 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Richard Cullen June 11, 1997 – January 17, 1998 Republican
Mark Earley January 17, 1998 – June 4, 2001 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Randolph A. Beales July 11, 2001 – January 12, 2002 Republican
Jerry Kilgore January 12, 2002 – February 1, 2005 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Judith Jagdmann February 1, 2005 – January 14, 2006 Republican
Bob McDonnell January 14, 2006 – February 20, 2009 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Bill Mims February 20, 2009 – January 16, 2010 Republican
Ken Cuccinelli January 16, 2010 – January 11, 2014 Republican
Mark Herring January 11, 2014 – present Democratic



Maybe at least one Democrat doesn't like Obamacare, huh???????

Please, don't try to be clever. The AG's brief in the 4th circuit was drafted long before Herring came into office, and ....... guess what? He didn't file one in the supreme court! King v. Burwell SCOTUSblog

 

[Obiwan]

"If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands" will not sell with the voters.

Anymore than the shutdowns. What you think does not matter. Only what the voters think counts.

Now if the GOP can show that modified tort reform and inter-state cooperatives have the votes, then the fix can be made, allowing states that want their own programs can have them.

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

You don't seem to understand.....

The Republicans didn't create the problem, Obama and the Democrats did.....

And the lawsuit was filed by private citizens (not the Republicans), and supported by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General....


But the Republicans get to fix Obama's mess, and it's on Obama if he wants to screw all those people!!!!!!!!!!! After all, the Republicans can't fix Obama and the Democrat's screwup unless Obama goes along with it...

 

[daws101]

The GOP could have passed a fix a long time ago, but preferred instead to create a constitutional crisis.

So is it really surprising they STILL won't pass a fix without adding a bunch of poison pills to create ANOTHER crisis?

Nope. Not surprising at all.

Party over country. Fuck all those people whose subsidies they are messing with. This is how you win votes!

Funny. Really funny. The bill was passed without one republican vote - and now, you claim the "republicans could have already fixed this mess".

Funny.

You really have no idea how our government works, do you.

Betcha a plugged nickel that I know as much as you.....

do you even know what civics is?


Civics
Civics is the study of the great theoretical and practical aspects of citizenship, its rights and duties; the duties of citizens to each other as members of a political body and to the government. It includes the study of civil law and civil code, and the study of government with attention to the role of citizens ― as opposed to external factors ― in the operation and oversight of government.

 

[Obiwan]

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

You're right. The plaintiffs are citizens who don't want to buy insurance. However, the AG of the state filed a brief supporting their interpretation of the law. And the plaintiffs attorneys are funded by others who seek to get rid of Obamacare.

Interesting point.....

Attorney General of Virginia - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

List of recent Attorneys General[edit]
Main article: List of Attorneys General of Virginia
Name Term Party Notes
John R. Saunders February 1, 1918 – March 17, 1934 Democratic Died in office
Abram Penn Staples March 22, 1934 – October 6, 1947 Democratic Resigned to become judge of the Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals
Harvey Black Apperson October 7, 1947 – February 2, 1948 Democratic Appointed by Governor; Died in office
James Lindsay Almond February 11, 1948 – September 16, 1957 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Kenneth Cartwright Patty September 1957 – January 1958 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Albertis Sydney Harrison January 1958 – April 1961 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Frederick Thomas Gray May 1961 – January 1962 Democratic Appointed by Governor
Robert Young Button January 1962 – January 1970 Democratic
Andrew Pickens Miller January 1970 – January 1977 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Anthony Francis Troy January 1977 – January 1978 Democratic
J. Marshall Coleman January 1978 – January 1982 Republican
Gerald Baliles January 1982 – June 30, 1985 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
William Broaddus 1985 – 1986 Democratic
Mary Sue Terry 1986 – January 1993 Democratic Resigned to run for Governor
Stephen D. Rosenthal 1993 – 1994 Democratic
Jim Gilmore 1994 – June 11, 1997 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Richard Cullen June 11, 1997 – January 17, 1998 Republican
Mark Earley January 17, 1998 – June 4, 2001 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Randolph A. Beales July 11, 2001 – January 12, 2002 Republican
Jerry Kilgore January 12, 2002 – February 1, 2005 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Judith Jagdmann February 1, 2005 – January 14, 2006 Republican
Bob McDonnell January 14, 2006 – February 20, 2009 Republican Resigned to run for Governor
Bill Mims February 20, 2009 – January 16, 2010 Republican
Ken Cuccinelli January 16, 2010 – January 11, 2014 Republican
Mark Herring January 11, 2014 – present Democratic



Maybe at least one Democrat doesn't like Obamacare, huh???????

Please, don't try to be clever. The AG's brief in the 4th circuit was drafted long before Herring came into office, and ....... guess what? He didn't file one in the supreme court! King v. Burwell SCOTUSblog

Then that brief shouldn't be material.... But you still can't blame the Republicans for the fact that private citizens filed a lawsuit, can you????

 

[daws101]

The GOP could have passed a fix a long time ago, but preferred instead to create a constitutional crisis.

So is it really surprising they STILL won't pass a fix without adding a bunch of poison pills to create ANOTHER crisis?

Nope. Not surprising at all.

Party over country. Fuck all those people whose subsidies they are messing with. This is how you win votes!

Funny. Really funny. The bill was passed without one republican vote - and now, you claim the "republicans could have already fixed this mess".

Funny.

You really have no idea how our government works, do you.

As you keep demonstrating, far left drone, you are the one that is clueless..

standard gash disclaimer...

 

[Obiwan]

Republicans to Obama:

You didn't stop us from fucking up your bill so it is YOUR fault

No...the Dims fucked it up all by themselves....

Lets see...

Republicans cherry pick an obscure sentence and push a bizarre interpretation
Republicans file suit to Supreme Court
Republicans refuse simple legislation clarifying the wording

Yup...Obama's fault

Actually the Republicans didn't file the lawsuit, dumbass...... They aren't to blame.....

This one is completely on Obama and the Democrats!!!!!

House Republicans filed a lawsuit against ObamaCare and Republicans filed the current lawsuit that is being considered by the SCOTUS.

Read my post by Findlaw..... (If you even learned to read with that fancy liberal education)..........

 

[daws101]

Ha, another farce. Boehner and McConnell will pretend to be angry and whip the dupes into a frenzy. And then just like Lucy, they'll pull the football away again. Man, when will Republicans finally get it? They have no opposition leadership. It's all just one private Elitist Club at this point.

Boehner and McConnell have never represented an 'opposition.' They've only given the illusion of one. Obama has gotten every single thing he ever pushed for. There is no opposition. Time to wake up Republicans.

Yep. Nothing quite like your tyrant, is there?

which one Reagan or bush?

 

[Derideo_Te]

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

WQ disagrees. The others don't matter, because they are simply haters, and haters hate. Talk with WQ.

WQ is a waste of bandwidth IMO. He destroyed his own credibility a long time ago and is now only worth mocking.

I really don't care that a rabid kneejerk racist like WQ disagrees with what I post. He is just background noise as far as I am concerned.

 

[rightwinger]

"If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands" will not sell with the voters.

Anymore than the shutdowns. What you think does not matter. Only what the voters think counts.

Now if the GOP can show that modified tort reform and inter-state cooperatives have the votes, then the fix can be made, allowing states that want their own programs can have them.

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

You don't seem to understand.....

The Republicans didn't create the problem, Obama and the Democrats did.....

And the lawsuit was filed by private citizens (not the Republicans), and supported by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General....


But the Republicans get to fix Obama's mess, and it's on Obama if he wants to screw all those people!!!!!!!!!!! After all, the Republicans can't fix Obama and the Democrat's screwup unless Obama goes along with it...

Mess?

Its only four words........would take them ten minutes

But they would rather deny subsidies to the citizens of Red States (as long as it would piss off Obama)

 

[Derideo_Te]

"If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands" will not sell with the voters.

Anymore than the shutdowns. What you think does not matter. Only what the voters think counts.

Now if the GOP can show that modified tort reform and inter-state cooperatives have the votes, then the fix can be made, allowing states that want their own programs can have them.

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

You don't seem to understand.....

The Republicans didn't create the problem, Obama and the Democrats did.....

And the lawsuit was filed by private citizens (not the Republicans), and supported by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General....


But the Republicans get to fix Obama's mess, and it's on Obama if he wants to screw all those people!!!!!!!!!!! After all, the Republicans can't fix Obama and the Democrat's screwup unless Obama goes along with it...

It wasn't supporters of ObamaCare that filed the lawsuit so being disingenuous only harms your own credibility.

The damage to the GOP is self inflicted.

They have the power to apply a simple clean fix to the ACA.

If they choose not to do that then they deserve to lose the next election.

They can't blame that on anyone but themselves.

But they will try...just like you are doing.

 

[daws101]

the op posts completely premature bullshit and the pitch fork carrying torch wielding village idiots get their granny panties in a bunch.

 

[The Rabbi]

"If it gets killed it will be solely on Obama's hands" will not sell with the voters.

Anymore than the shutdowns. What you think does not matter. Only what the voters think counts.

Now if the GOP can show that modified tort reform and inter-state cooperatives have the votes, then the fix can be made, allowing states that want their own programs can have them.

The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot over this. They have no leverage.

The blue states have their own state plans so they aren't harmed if the SCOTUS sides with the GOP on this.

Obama doesn't have to compromise because the GOP are only hurting their own constituents if they don't provide a fix that Obama will sign.

The GOP has no wiggle room. They are in charge of both houses so they have it in their power to fix the problem themselves.

This isn't rocket science although there are any number of morons out there who don't get it.

You don't seem to understand.....

The Republicans didn't create the problem, Obama and the Democrats did.....

And the lawsuit was filed by private citizens (not the Republicans), and supported by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General....


But the Republicans get to fix Obama's mess, and it's on Obama if he wants to screw all those people!!!!!!!!!!! After all, the Republicans can't fix Obama and the Democrat's screwup unless Obama goes along with it...

Mess?

Its only four words........would take them ten minutes

But they would rather deny subsidies to the citizens of Red States (as long as it would piss off Obama)

Why should the GOP< which was elected to repeal Obamacare, roll over for Obama? Why should they save his ass? If he wants the subsidies to continue he will sign the GOP bill, which does that.