[OFFICIAL] State of the Union Address Thread

Democrats honored our veterans
Republicans honored a Duck Dynasty star

Democrats use veterans to make their party look good.
Republicans honored a successful business man that helps to make this country great.
Democrats demonize the successful people.

There is some talk about Willie Robertson running for Congress. If he did that, he would naturally walk away with the seat. Asking him to attend was more political than anything else.

It was a blatant appeal to the "We hate fags" crowd
 
Democrats honored our veterans
Republicans honored a Duck Dynasty star

grow up Norton, posts like that just make you look like more of an idiot than you usually do.

Why do Republicans leave themselves open to comparisons like this?

I think last year it was Ted Nugent. Do Republicans think before they act?

You have a problem with normal average everyday Americans?

I think we have firmly established that Democrats despise normal Americans, thus they hate America itself because they can't relate. They feel they're too good for them. They feel they're smarter and more informed.

It's just that they know so much about what is wrong with America and ignore what is right about it.
 
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“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -- you may know that your society is doomed.”--Ayn Rand
 
Democrats use veterans to make their party look good.
Republicans honored a successful business man that helps to make this country great.
Democrats demonize the successful people.

There is some talk about Willie Robertson running for Congress. If he did that, he would naturally walk away with the seat. Asking him to attend was more political than anything else.

It was a blatant appeal to the "We hate fags" crowd

Really? Hmmm.... I thought it might have been more an appeal to the "conservative, Christian" crowd that believes in traditional holy matrimony, which is the vast majority of Americans.

Good idea... that's who elects republicans.
 
“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -- you may know that your society is doomed.”--Ayn Rand

Ayn was a Libertarian.
All societies are eventually doomed.
What's your point?
 
Ever hear the sound of one hand clapping? When Hussein lamely said "let's give America a raise" it was the sound of one democrat applauding.
 
“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -- you may know that your society is doomed.”--Ayn Rand

Ayn was a Libertarian.
All societies are eventually doomed.
What's your point?
All societies are eventually doomed??
 
“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -- you may know that your society is doomed.”--Ayn Rand

Ayn was a Libertarian.
All societies are eventually doomed.
What's your point?
All societies are eventually doomed??

Its a historical fact. All the great empires and civilizations of the past have eventually died out. Rome is a more noticeable example of that, since it succumbed to the same problems America is now experiencing.
 
They're mostly going into fields that pay less. Of course Obama blames men for stupid choices.

:evil:

women are still only earning approximately 77 cents on the dollar compared to men

Not for doing the same job.....

Actually, yes for doing the same job. Even in my field which is nursing. For years, our professional organizations told us if we recruited men into the field it would raise our pay. Well it did raise pay - that of male nurses. I finally realized that if I wanted to command the highest pay in my field, I would have to negotiate it for myself and not just follow the ANA and their 'recruiting men will fix it all' philosophy.
 
Fact Check: Less than meets eye in Obama speech

Here is one:

OBAMA: "Today, after four years of economic growth, corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But average wages have barely budged. Inequality has deepened. Upward mobility has stalled."

THE FACTS: The most recent evidence suggests that mobility hasn't worsened. A team of economists led by Harvard's Raj Chetty released a study last week that found the United States isn't any less socially mobile than it was in the 1970s. Looking at children born between 1971 and 1993, the economists found that the odds of a child born in the poorest 20 percent of families making it into the top 20 percent hasn't changed.
 
Actually, they've done both..but not for the reasons you've pointed out.

And in this nation of so much wealth, why are their ghettos filled with able bodied Americans?

:eek:

two reasons:

1. the obama economy has not created new jobs

2. if the govt will give you $350/week, why work for $400/week.

1. Yes it has, over 8 million of them.
2. Bullshit. The Majority of Americans want to work.

Completely off topic, but I don't believe that is true at all
 
As required by the Constitution, a sitting president is required to inform Congress of the state of our union once per year during his term(s). Today, we'll be fact checking Obama's speech from beginning to end.

One that didn't make the cut in this article was an obscure mention, a claim that our deficits have been "cut in half." Here is the statement in context:

OBAMA: Here are the results of your efforts: The lowest unemployment rate in over five years. A rebounding housing market. A manufacturing sector that’s adding jobs for the first time since the 1990s. More oil produced at home than we buy from the rest of the world – the first time that’s happened in nearly twenty years. Our deficits – cut by more than half. And for the first time in over a decade, business leaders around the world have declared that China is no longer the world’s number one place to invest; America is."

THE FACTS: First, the unemployment rate has not gone down for lack of unemployment, but for retiring baby boomers and disoriented job seekers simply leaving the labor force. As recently as December of last year, 917,000 Americans left the workforce.

Second, America does indeed possess more oil reserves than the Middle East and the world combined, but what he fails to mention is that it sits under federally owned land. Attempts to take advantage of that supply via the Keystone XL pipeline have been rebuffed by the his Administration. It is true we produce more oil than we buy, but gas prices have not translated, which cost an average of $3.26 a gallon.

Thirdly and most importantly, Obama claims our deficits have been cut in half. In fact, that is a rather bold lie. In his 5 years so far, he ran 4 consecutive $1 trillion budget deficits, with last year dipping into the $900 billion range. Obama made a $3.8 trillion budget proposal to congress last April, suggesting that any "cuts" would be minimal. It may look good on paper, but the bill would almost cancel out any reductions put in place as it proposes. Don't let the $734 billion budget deficit fool you this year, since roughly $2 dollars more will spent per every $1 dollar cut from the deficit.

Lastly Obama has done little to remedy the flow of jobs leaving America for countries overseas. Five years ago, he promised revamp the tax code to make hiring less hostile to American corporations. So far none of that has happened. It is debatable when he says that "business leaders around the world have declared that China is no longer the world’s number one place to invest." In two years spanning 2008 through 2010, trade with China cost America roughly 450,000 jobs. According to a study by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, large American companies in 2010 barely added any workers in the United States, increasing their numbers by 0.1 percent, while they expanded their foreign workforce by 1.5 percent. That was business as usual — between 2004 and 2010, the bureau reported, foreign affiliates hired 2 million workers while 600,000 were added by the companies at home.


WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama promised to clear red tape away from highway projects that actually are stalled because there's no money for them, not because rules are in the way. He's ordering a higher minimum wage for a sliver of the workforce, which affects no one now and not many later.

Going it alone — without Congress making a law — just doesn't go as far as Obama made it sound at times Tuesday night in his State of the Union speech.

And when he talked about his health care law — a source of Obama misstatements in the past — he hit another fact bump.

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OBAMA: "More than 9 million Americans have signed up for private health insurance or Medicaid coverage."

THE FACTS: That's not to say 9 million more Americans have gained insurance under the law.

The administration says about 6 million people have been determined to be eligible for Medicaid since Oct. 1 and an additional 3 million roughly have signed up for private health insurance through the new markets created by the health care law. That's where Obama's number of 9 million comes from. But it's unclear how many in the Medicaid group were already eligible for the program or renewing existing coverage.

Likewise, it's not known how many of those who signed up for private coverage were previously insured. A large survey released last week suggests the numbers of uninsured gaining coverage may be smaller. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index found that the uninsured rate for U.S. adults dropped by 1.2 percentage points in January, to 16.1 percent. That would translate to roughly 2 million to 3 million newly insured people since the law's coverage expansion started Jan. 1.

FACT CHECK: Obama and Medicare premiums
 
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At least it wasn't a Jimmy Carter Malaise speech. I just wish Obama would say something positive, something uplifting or something to show he is a leader. But wishing for another Reagan may just be too much since there never will be another.
 

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