Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[Robert W]

I saw this video last night:

This sure is interesting. I wonder who noticed all of the experiments? Such as the water was allowed to flow down the tube at the bottom of the bowl? Who would guess the effect would show up so near the Equator? I said the coriolis effect is pretty strong and those experiments prove this is true.

 

[Robert W]

Robert, I fully understand the Coriolis effect. What is it you think I can't get?

I believe you.

 

[Crick]

I want to point out that I am guilty of asking you a question. Perhaps you want me not to.

I haven't the faintest idea what you want to know Robert but I'd appreciate it if you stopped making comments about my motives or my knowledge or my fears or desires about which you have absolutely no knowledge in the first place.

 

[jc456]

I haven't the faintest idea what you want to know Robert but I'd appreciate it if you stopped making comments about my motives or my knowledge or my fears or desires about which you have absolutely no knowledge in the first place.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one

 

[ding]

Don't be such a frightened puppy. Go look at the data. Take your own measurements or get really ambitious and download the actual data. It's all available. Your claim that the warming of the last 150 years is natural or non-synthetic is simply not supportable. I know that's hard to take but, sometimes, ya gotta just bite the bullet.

I have looked at the 3 million year record. I think you are smoking crack if you think you can prove warming that is unusual.

Here's a million year history...

And here's a 3 million year history

Looks like a lot of glacial cycles to me with increasingly larger swings over the last 400,000 years.

 

[jc456]

py. Go look at the data

The data that you can’t post? Hahaha

 

[Robert W]

I haven't the faintest idea what you want to know Robert but I'd appreciate it if you stopped making comments about my motives or my knowledge or my fears or desires about which you have absolutely no knowledge in the first place.

I never should have believed you when you brought into this your kids.

 

[Robert W]

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one

My former wife had an uncle who had the bag he shit into and it could be he had no asshole.

 

[jc456]

My former wife had an uncle who had the bag he shit into and it could be he had no asshole.

Ah, but UNC had one

 

[Robert W]

Ah, but UNC had one

He had that medical bag on his body, and I guess he wore it with a belt and had to clean it out. His job was pest control. He once gave me a gallon of Chlordane and it was brutal in insects.

 

[Crick]

I have looked at the 3 million year record. I think you are smoking crack if you think you can prove warming that is unusual.

Here's a million year history...

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And here's a 3 million year history
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Looks like a lot of glacial cycles to me with increasingly larger swings over the last 400,000 years.

Ideally, we'd like short time spans so we can read them more easily, but how about that upward spike at ~340,000 years? This is just calibrated eyeball, but it looks like it goes up 9 or 10 degrees in 3/32" on my screen while that horizontal scale is 133,000 years/inch. I couldn't find a decimal ruler. 133,000 * (3/32) = 12,468.75 years.

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

Doing the math, we get 0.0802C/century.

The rate since 1850 is 1.2C in 173 years or 0.6936C/century.

0.6936 / 0.0802 = 8.65. So the current warming rate (conservatively taken from 1850 to the present) is 8.65 TIMES the rate in that dramatic glacial warming spike. The rate since 1981 is listed as 1.8C/century. That would be almost 22.5 TIMES that interglacial rate

 

[Robert W]

Ideally, we'd like short time spans so we can read them more easily, but how about that upward spike at ~340,000 years? This is just calibrated eyeball, but it looks like it goes up 9 or 10 degrees in 3/32" on my screen while that horizontal scale is 133,000 years/inch. I couldn't find a decimal ruler. 133,000 * (3/32) = 12,468.75 years.

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

Doing the math, we get 0.0802C/century.

The rate since 1850 is 1.2C in 173 years or 0.6936C/century.

0.6936 / 0.0802 = 8.65. So the current warming rate (conservatively taken from 1850 to the present) is 8.65 TIMES the rate in that dramatic glacial warming spike. The rate since 1981 is listed as 1.8C/century. That would be almost 22.5 TIMES that interglacial rate

Should CA block off Death Valley due to the sudden rise in temperatures as one enters Death Valley? Is going into death valley a health hazard? I never saw warnings driving in there.

Man you talk about fast rises in temperature. Damned few places can top that valley.

 

[ding]

Ideally, we'd like short time spans so we can read them more easily, but how about that upward spike at ~340,000 years? This is just calibrated eyeball, but it looks like it goes up 9 or 10 degrees in 3/32" on my screen while that horizontal scale is 133,000 years/inch. I couldn't find a decimal ruler. 133,000 * (3/32) = 12,468.75 years.

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

Doing the math, we get 0.0802C/century.

The rate since 1850 is 1.2C in 173 years or 0.6936C/century.

0.6936 / 0.0802 = 8.65. So the current warming rate (conservatively taken from 1850 to the present) is 8.65 TIMES the rate in that dramatic glacial warming spike. The rate since 1981 is listed as 1.8C/century. That would be almost 22.5 TIMES that interglacial rate

You're joking, right?

That was nonsense.

 

[Crick]

I never should have believed you when you brought into this your kids.

Why? Do you have children? Are you not concerned about what the future holds for them?

 

[Crick]

You're joking, right?

That was nonsense.

That was an estimate. Try it yourself. I would suggest a better graph. Something like this, perhaps.

Here it looks as if the rise at 240,000 years is steeper. Looks like 7.5C in ~4,000 years. That'd be 0.1875C/century. The rate since 1850 is only 2.33 times as fast and the rate since 1981 is only about 10 times as fast. I didn't measure this time span as carefully as I did above, but its not going to change the results significantly. The point is that current warming is taking place many times faster than during any of these interglacial warmups. That's simply undeniable. The IPCC checked this with the actual numbers but I assume you will simply say they were lying, so I didn't press you with them.

 

[Robert W]

Why? Do you have children? Are you not concerned about what the future holds for them?

Climate won't kill them unless they happen to freeze to death. And that is not likely.

 

[Crick]

Climate won't kill them unless they happen to freeze to death. And that is not likely.

I never said I feared they would be killed. And I certainly hope your concerns for your children's welfare goes a little deeper than that. What will their lives be like when the world has to deal with half a billion climate refugees with nowhere to go? And that will include a great deal of Americans. How will they deal with food and water shortages? Novel diseases? Economic collapse?

 

[Grumblenuts]

I have looked at the 3 million year record. I think you are smoking crack if you think you can prove warming that is unusual.

Here's a million year history...

View attachment 877280

And here's a 3 million year history
View attachment 877281

Looks like a lot of glacial cycles to me with increasingly larger swings over the last 400,000 years.

No link? Could it be that your source is just too embarrassing to reveal? Simply plagiarizing another hardcore AGW/ACC denier's work again?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ideally, we'd like short time spans so we can read them more easily, but how about that upward spike at ~340,000 years? This is just calibrated eyeball, but it looks like it goes up 9 or 10 degrees in 3/32" on my screen while that horizontal scale is 133,000 years/inch. I couldn't find a decimal ruler. 133,000 * (3/32) = 12,468.75 years.

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

Doing the math, we get 0.0802C/century.

The rate since 1850 is 1.2C in 173 years or 0.6936C/century.

0.6936 / 0.0802 = 8.65. So the current warming rate (conservatively taken from 1850 to the present) is 8.65 TIMES the rate in that dramatic glacial warming spike. The rate since 1981 is listed as 1.8C/century. That would be almost 22.5 TIMES that interglacial rate

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

What was the rate for every 173-year period?

 

[Crick]

Ussing the 10 degree estimate, that gives us a rate of 1 centigrade degree every 1,247 years.

What was the rate for every 173-year period?

What you see is what you got.