Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[jc456]

And the power contained in the photon, derived by it's frequency or state of excitement, determines its overall mass

This is the fourth time you said that. Again photons contain energy not power.

Again, is a photon a particle or a wave? Or is it a combination of a Particle within a wave?

If you took QM 101 you would know that a photon in transit acts like a wave with diffraction properties, etc.
And a photon interaction with matter results in a discrete transfer of energy where the photon disappears. It is that interaction that is quantized and thus has a particle nature.

Simple statement: moving photon is wave. Photon hitting something is particle.

The math: The formula for a specific configuration is set up in the Hamiltonian operator. The eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian gives the discrete set of energy levels.

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power is energy per unit of time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Photons are always moving...always!

Yup. And massless.

And you didn't learn a damn thing... keep that head firmly implanted toad....

Ignorant fool....

I learned that you said photons have mass, but are still unable to provide a link proving they have mass.

you should have opened the link he provided.

None of the links he provided gave the mass of a photon.

Thanks for chiming in.

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

 

[jc456]

And you didn't learn a damn thing... keep that head firmly implanted toad....

Ignorant fool....

I learned that you said photons have mass, but are still unable to provide a link proving they have mass.

you should have opened the link he provided.

None of the links he provided gave the mass of a photon.

Thanks for chiming in.

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

As I told you before the mass changes with the power it contains.. Do the damn math....

Post your proof already.
A couple of links that say, "This is how to calculate the mass of a photon" would be nice.

Liar.

he did, why did you ignore it?

Yes, I ignored the link he didn't post that didn't give the calculation for mass of a photon.

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.[/QUOTE]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I learned that you said photons have mass, but are still unable to provide a link proving they have mass.

you should have opened the link he provided.

None of the links he provided gave the mass of a photon.

Thanks for chiming in.

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

As I told you before the mass changes with the power it contains.. Do the damn math....

Post your proof already.
A couple of links that say, "This is how to calculate the mass of a photon" would be nice.

Liar.

he did, why did you ignore it?

Yes, I ignored the link he didn't post that didn't give the calculation for mass of a photon.

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.

So.....massless, NO REST MASS and effective mass.

Nothing that says, "a photon has mass"

 

[Billy_Bob]

you should have opened the link he provided.

None of the links he provided gave the mass of a photon.

Thanks for chiming in.

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

Post your proof already.
A couple of links that say, "This is how to calculate the mass of a photon" would be nice.

Liar.

he did, why did you ignore it?

Yes, I ignored the link he didn't post that didn't give the calculation for mass of a photon.

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.

So.....massless, NO REST MASS and effective mass.

Nothing that says, "a photon has mass"

Clueless to the last...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

None of the links he provided gave the mass of a photon.

Thanks for chiming in.

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

he did, why did you ignore it?

Yes, I ignored the link he didn't post that didn't give the calculation for mass of a photon.

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.

So.....massless, NO REST MASS and effective mass.

Nothing that says, "a photon has mass"

Clueless to the last...

Liar.

 

[the other mike]

Greenland lost 11 billion tons of ice in one day. How does that melt compare to the past?

 

[SSDD]

Greenland lost 11 billion tons of ice in one day. How does that melt compare to the past?

When you compare the ice in Greenland today to the amount of ice that has been in the past, it is clear that today, there is far more ice than there has been for most of the past 10,000 years. The only time in the past 10,000 years that there has been more ice in greenland than the present was during the little ice age which the earth is still warming out of... Note that on the graph below, the present is at the left side of the graph..

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379119302021

 

[Billy_Bob]

said mass right in there, you even used the word quite often in your rant. why was that?

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

Yes, I ignored the link he didn't post that didn't give the calculation for mass of a photon.

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.

So.....massless, NO REST MASS and effective mass.

Nothing that says, "a photon has mass"

Clueless to the last...

Liar.

Yes, you sure are...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Post the entire passage...…..

QUOTE="Toddsterpatriot, post: 22919328, member: 29707"]

What a dishonest piece of crap... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

Link​

Your link doesn't link to your quote.

From your math.ucr link...…"Photons are traditionally said to be massless"

Do you have any links that actually back your claims?

From your Stanford link..... "This equation says that the energy carried by a photon which has NO REST MASS, is equivalent to an amount of ordinary mass in grams, and that this 'effective mass' varies with the frequency of the photon."

Effective mass is not mass. Energy equivalent to mass is not mass either.
I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

This doesn't link to your claim either.

So.....massless, NO REST MASS and effective mass.

Nothing that says, "a photon has mass"

Clueless to the last...

Liar.

Yes, you sure are...

Still nothing that gives the mass of a photon?

Durr.

How's your "Magic energy destroying tube" Nobel Prize winning paper coming along?

 

[Sunsettommy]

What is the mass of a photon?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

 

[Sunsettommy]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Maybe you can help old Billy?

What is the mass of a photon? Link?

 

[Sunsettommy]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Maybe you can help old Billy?

What is the mass of a photon? Link?

The answer was in the link, why not read it with glasses?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Maybe you can help old Billy?

What is the mass of a photon? Link?

The answer was in the link, why not read it with glasses?

Maybe you could post the portion that gives the mass?

 

[Billy_Bob]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Maybe you can help old Billy?

What is the mass of a photon? Link?

The answer was in the link, why not read it with glasses?

Maybe you could post the portion that gives the mass?

The mass is dependent on the power it contains... thus the mass changes and is not constant.

You are a dishonest piece of crap... And lazy to boot.... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

 

[SSDD]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

Said to be massless...it is a FIGURE OF SPEECH....and they are SAID to be masses at rest. When might a photon be at rest? They are said to be massless so that they jibe with special relativity...massless at rest is an ad hoc "fix" for a mathematical problem...

 

[SSDD]

What is the mass of a photon?

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Massless AT REST....wonder when he thinks photons might ever be AT REST?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Photons are traditionally said to be massless.

TRADITIONALLY is not science data or evidence..........

Maybe you can help old Billy?

What is the mass of a photon? Link?

The answer was in the link, why not read it with glasses?

Maybe you could post the portion that gives the mass?

The mass is dependent on the power it contains... thus the mass changes and is not constant.

You are a dishonest piece of crap... And lazy to boot.... I posted;

"if you prefer the particle description of physics over the wave description, you can approximate all photons as 'bullets' each carrying a mass of m = hf/c^2 and traveling at the speed of light."

Link

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.. links here and here

I also gave you the numbers to put in the equation here.

Do the damn math moron..

The mass is dependent on the power it contains... thus the mass changes and is not constant.

So post the link that gives the mass at different power levels.

you can approximate all photons

Approximate? How about something more precise?

Derived from the NASA, Stanford University, and others.

Derived? Not measured?

Let me know when you find real proof.