Oh Nooo! The DOW Is Tanking !!,So Who's Economy Is It Today? Obama Or Trump ?

The DJI was up 300 points and then Trump sent a tweet about more tariffs...it is down 1000 points since then
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.

I will give you 10 bucks for every post you can find from me giving Obama credit for either the economy or the stock market.

Here is my view, since I am neither left nor right...the president has can fuck things up or they can get the hell out of the way and let the markets do their own thing. They are never a positive influence...either negative or neutral is all.
I guess you were just doing a baiting, post, then. Because what you posted sure sounded like you were inferring.


As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
 
The DJI was up 300 points and then Trump sent a tweet about more tariffs...it is down 1000 points since then
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.
and that's how this dem sees it too and his 10% tariff tweet got us 767 down in the dow and this follows other horrible days. China is just giving it back to the bully They won't take the crap trump has gotten away with all his life
Trump got away with? What about what China got away with?
Yes they have too but NEITHER country will want to look bad in the process We need a mutual agreement where they both can win and I don't think Trump has that in him
Not sure about that, Ed, I think Trump is a negotiator, I'm not sure that China is willing to bend.

What has he successfully negotiated since becoming POTUS?
 
The DJI was up 300 points and then Trump sent a tweet about more tariffs...it is down 1000 points since then
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.
and that's how this dem sees it too and his 10% tariff tweet got us 767 down in the dow and this follows other horrible days. China is just giving it back to the bully They won't take the crap trump has gotten away with all his life
Trump got away with? What about what China got away with?
Yes they have too but NEITHER country will want to look bad in the process We need a mutual agreement where they both can win and I don't think Trump has that in him
Not sure about that, Ed, I think Trump is a negotiator, I'm not sure that China is willing to bend.
IMO China can take lots more pain than we can Her leader isn't running again and I really believe trump as a negotiator is a farce
 
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.

I will give you 10 bucks for every post you can find from me giving Obama credit for either the economy or the stock market.

Here is my view, since I am neither left nor right...the president has can fuck things up or they can get the hell out of the way and let the markets do their own thing. They are never a positive influence...either negative or neutral is all.
I guess you were just doing a baiting, post, then. Because what you posted sure sounded like you were inferring.


As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
All the people who orgasm over cheap labor.
Until they have to support their unemployed middle aged kids and their grandchildren.
 
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.
and that's how this dem sees it too and his 10% tariff tweet got us 767 down in the dow and this follows other horrible days. China is just giving it back to the bully They won't take the crap trump has gotten away with all his life
Trump got away with? What about what China got away with?
Yes they have too but NEITHER country will want to look bad in the process We need a mutual agreement where they both can win and I don't think Trump has that in him
Not sure about that, Ed, I think Trump is a negotiator, I'm not sure that China is willing to bend.
IMO China can take lots more pain than we can Her leader isn't running again and I really believe trump as a negotiator is a farce
Even Art of the Deal war written by some one else
 
Sounds like you're saying that it's Trump"s fault, because of what he did.
But, when Trump does something that makes the market go up, it's Obama's economy.
Can't have it both ways and this is a good example of how stupid the left is.


When the market goes up, It's Trump's economy.
When the economy goes down, it's Trump's economy.
That's how the right sees it.

I will give you 10 bucks for every post you can find from me giving Obama credit for either the economy or the stock market.

Here is my view, since I am neither left nor right...the president has can fuck things up or they can get the hell out of the way and let the markets do their own thing. They are never a positive influence...either negative or neutral is all.
I guess you were just doing a baiting, post, then. Because what you posted sure sounded like you were inferring.


As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
He's cleaning up what other administrations created. And, yes the economy IS strong enough.
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.
Dream on

I will, thank you. I am positioned either way. If Asia goes south, I will have to work a few years longer. If it takes off, I can retire a few years earlier. This sort of stuff was inevitable. Has nothing to do with the Orange Buddha.
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.


The Chinese need us more than we need them.

I doubledog DARE you to walk in a midwest soybean convention and say that !
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.

I doubt they are flexing for purely economic reasons. This is their way of reasserting control their internal economy. A shot across the bow of those people suddenly having middle class wants not coming fast enough is my guess.
 
Why is it when the economy kicks ass, it's all because of Obama.

The economy has not really kicked ass since Obama left the White House. The best year of Obama “kick ass” was 2015 when GDP hit 2.9 %. Now, the best year of TrumpO “kick ass” was 2018 when GDP hit 2.9 %. as well.

That’s a tie. What the hell is that strawman about?
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.


The Chinese need us more than we need them.

I doubledog DARE you to walk in a midwest soybean convention and say that !

How can they afford to have a convention when they are allegedly losing money on every acre they plant?
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.


The Chinese need us more than we need them.

I doubledog DARE you to walk in a midwest soybean convention and say that !

How can they afford to have a convention when they are allegedly losing money on every acre they plant?
We give farmers billions Trump looking for votes
 
I will give you 10 bucks for every post you can find from me giving Obama credit for either the economy or the stock market.

Here is my view, since I am neither left nor right...the president has can fuck things up or they can get the hell out of the way and let the markets do their own thing. They are never a positive influence...either negative or neutral is all.
I guess you were just doing a baiting, post, then. Because what you posted sure sounded like you were inferring.


As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
He's cleaning up what other administrations created. And, yes the economy IS strong enough.

What is it he is cleaning up?

Is he cleaning up the 121 straight months of economic expansion?

Is he cleaning up 110 straight months of positive job growth?

Is he cleaning up a UE rate of less than 4%
 
I haven't looked at individual stocks but this is due to China devaluing the yuan. It is an interesting move as far as the trade war but I am not sure it is going to help them 6 months from now when they are in the dead of winter and need food unless they are also going to be liquidating their treasuries.

Yes. The Chinese need us more than we need them. But doesn’t mean they are always rational. Many wars in history started over trade disputes. If this gets worse we will have to do something about the Silicon Valley and Democrat allies of the communists who are hoping the Chicoms take Trump down.


The Chinese need us more than we need them.

I doubledog DARE you to walk in a midwest soybean convention and say that !

How can they afford to have a convention when they are allegedly losing money on every acre they plant?
We give farmers billions Trump looking for votes

I was being sarcastic. I personally don't care if a lot of them go belly up. Big Ag mono-cropping is not a particularly good practice. I just hope I live long enough to see the day they run out of cheap phosphorus.
 
I guess you were just doing a baiting, post, then. Because what you posted sure sounded like you were inferring.


As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
He's cleaning up what other administrations created. And, yes the economy IS strong enough.

What is it he is cleaning up?

Is he cleaning up the 121 straight months of economic expansion?

Is he cleaning up 110 straight months of positive job growth?

Is he cleaning up a UE rate of less than 4%
He’s stopping China from sending us their resources for next to nothing. We need to pay more, that will show them.
 
As I said the President can fuck things up and that is what Trump did with his tweet. 500 points in 30 minutes lost after his tweet.
Consider it a buying opportunity like I have, GG. The economy is strong enough and this is temporary.

If the economy was strong enough then the Feds would not be lowering the rates.

And it is not about me, it is about all those people who have 401ks and retirement accounts tied to market performance. 560 days of stagnation takes a toll on such things.
He's cleaning up what other administrations created. And, yes the economy IS strong enough.

What is it he is cleaning up?

Is he cleaning up the 121 straight months of economic expansion?

Is he cleaning up 110 straight months of positive job growth?

Is he cleaning up a UE rate of less than 4%
He’s stopping China from sending us their resources for next to nothing. We need to pay more, that will show them.
He keeps saying China will pay when it's our retailers or consumers but his herd believes him
 
Did Obama start a trade war?

No. Nor did he ever address a trade imbalance either.

Come to think of it, neither did he ever address the threat of ISIS.

The only two things we ever figured out Barry was any good at was raising the Middle Class's healthcare premiums by 3-fold to give free healthcare to the indigent and giving back billions of dollars to terrorists they didn't even ask for.

The trade imbalance is increasing. All Trump did was push the tariffs onto the consumers

The Great Obama crushed AlQaeda, drove ISIS into the desert AND killed Bin Laden

Al Qaeda is still alive not crushed, our Military killed Bin Laden, Barry merely gave his OK to carry it out and drove the poor people of the Middle East not ISIS into the desert fleeing for their lives, you poor, deluded, lying, revisionist Obama-masturbating sap.
 
How many times are you liberals going to be embarrassed with this argument? Every time there has been any kind of a substantial drop in the stock market, you post a bunch of threads claiming that this proves Trump's policies aren't working. But then you go silent when the market recovers and rises for many months in a row.

Did you happen to read the latest BLS jobs report? The numbers look very good.
 
If you're going to panic about day to day fluctuations in the market. you are not intelligent enough to comment on the market

Fine, let's talk about the overall performance for the last 560 days since the start of the trade war.

The NASDAQ has grown 8.51%.
The DJI has shrunk by 1.35%
The S&P has grown 1.23%
The SmallCap 2000 has shrunk 6.91%.

How do those numbers look to you?

Pretty lame

Trump had a strong economy and a surging market

Hs tit for tat trade war with China has not helped. China just devalued their currency to put the ball in Trumps court

Who is Trump going to hurt next?
 

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