Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine vetoes bill banning gender-affirming care for transgender minors

[jc456]

The right’s hypocrisy is on full display, as is the fact that Republicans are wrong on the issues.

What conservatives need to understand is that ‘limited government/less government’ is far much more than just reckless, irresponsible tax cuts and deregulation – it’s also keeping government out of the personal lives of Americans.

and yet you are for mandating shit. go away you useless nat.

 

[Curried Goats]

No one should be allowed to get a exchange operation under the age of 18. If parents allow it, they should be arrested.

This is just common sense stuff. Not allowed to buy a pack of cigarettes into your 21 which is kind of crazy because you can go and fight in a war and die for this country at the age of 18 but you can’t get a pack of cigarettes.

No, it's Healthcare, that's why we don't let you common Bingos practice it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Other than preventing the killing of inborn humans beings none of that is happening

Oh wait, we do want to protect impressionable children who are too young to transform their bodies and ruin their lives

To be a conservative is to be a big government authoritarian – it’s who conservatives are, it’s in their DNA.

As such the authoritarian right will continue to seek to compel conformity and punish dissent, and fear positive, beneficial chance, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.

 

[Curried Goats]

to restore the proper function of his body.

Not to mutilate him or drug him to pretend they are something else and ruin normal function.

You don't get to make decisions for someone else's body or pretend as if your concern is their best interest rather than your Bingo ideology.

 

[jc456]

No, it's Healthcare, that's why we don't let you common Bingos practice it.

who do you think pays for an under 18 child's healthcare?

 

[Curried Goats]

who do you think pays for an under 18 child's healthcare?

Their parents or tax payers if they're on subsidies or are wards of the state. What does that have to do with whether or not trans Healthcare involves common knowledge or specialized medical knowledge?

 

[dblack]

To be a conservative is to be a big government authoritarian – it’s who conservatives are, it’s in their DNA.

As such the authoritarian right will continue to seek to compel conformity and punish dissent, and fear positive, beneficial chance, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.

BTW - do you oppose state bans on "conversion therapy" on the same grounds?

 

[dblack]

You don't get to make decisions for someone else's body or pretend as if your concern is their best interest rather than your Bingo ideology.

How about you? Where do you stand on the state's power to ban "conversion therapy"?

 

[dblack]

And, in the interests of "equal time", a question for those of you who think the state should have the power to ban the tranny surgeries for kids. Do you also support the state's power to ban "conversion therapy"?


ie - Do any of you have consistent principles. Or is this just another score keeping exercise in the fucking "culture war"?

 

[Curried Goats]

How about you? Where do you stand on the state's power to ban "conversion therapy"?

I support the ban. Conversion therapy isn't supported by the Healthcare community. It's administered by ignorant religious Bingos.

 

[dblack]

I support the ban. Conversion therapy isn't supported by the Healthcare community. It's administered by ignorant religious Bingos.

So they shouldn't be allowed 'to make decisions for someone else's body or pretend as if your concern is their best interest", but your side should?

 

[Curried Goats]

So they shouldn't be allowed 'to make decisions for someone else's body or pretend as if your concern is their best interest", but your side should?

No, you don't get to make decisions about what Healthcare people get to receive out of your ignorance. The professional medical community isn't ignorant. They're the professionals who deem conversion therapy harmful.

 

[Hollie]

To be a conservative is to be a big government authoritarian – it’s who conservatives are, it’s in their DNA.

As such the authoritarian right will continue to seek to compel conformity and punish dissent, and fear positive, beneficial chance, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.

Typical lies from the Dems / Socialists. Oppressive, controlling big government is a hallmark of Stalinist / Leninist ideology. That's why the Dem / Socialists are foaming at the mouth with "universal free college", " universal free childcare" "guaranteed jobs", "guaranteed basic income", "free Healthcare for illegals", "Green new deal boondoggle. Everything is free because the government has money it can print as needed.

The Dems / Socialists want control of their minions by creating a dependent class. Un / under'educated welfare class with limited or no job skills is the perfect dependent class. Millions of imported, third world illegals are by design and intent.

 

[dblack]

No, you don't get to make decisions about what Healthcare people get to receive out of your ignorance. The professional medical community isn't ignorant. They're the professionals who deem conversion therapy harmful.

So, it sounds like, for you, it isn't a question of whether the state should have the authority to tell families how deal with these issues. It's just a question of what the state will tell them to do, or not do. And frankly, the right seems to have the same opinion. Both sides believe the state should have the final say, they just have a different idea on what should be forced on families.

 

[Curried Goats]

So, it sounds like, for you, it isn't a question of whether the state should have the authority to tell families how deal with these issues. It's just a question of what the state will tell them to do, or not do. And frankly, the right seems to have the same opinion. Both sides believe the state should have the final say, they just have a different idea on what should be forced.

Do you mean the State is the final arbiter of the law? The answer to that is yes. Who else do you think should be? Do I hope the law is informed by learned individuals rather than ignorant Bingos? Also yes. What are you confused about?

 

[jc456]

Their parents or tax payers if they're on subsidies or are wards of the state. What does that have to do with whether or not trans Healthcare involves common knowledge or specialized medical knowledge?

Exactly what about it?

 

[Curried Goats]

Exactly what about it?

Are you stupid? You responded to me. Did you not understand what you were responding to? That tracks actually. You're a complete moron.

 

[jc456]

No, you don't get to make decisions about what Healthcare people get to receive out of your ignorance. The professional medical community isn't ignorant. They're the professionals who deem conversion therapy harmful.

so the medical community makes the decisions for parents and state?

 

[dblack]

Do you mean the State is the final arbiter of the law?

No. I mean should the State have the power to force families to abide by its current notions of "best practices".

 

[jc456]

I support the ban. Conversion therapy isn't supported by the Healthcare community. It's administered by ignorant religious Bingos.

Hypocrisy at it's finest right here folks.