Okay.....Will An Apology Get You Off Of My Fat Ass?

[JoeB131]

Guy, the suppossedly classified stuff was media reports about foreign leaders.

They came out and announced details of the classified info she mishandled? Seriously? LOL!

No, they classified things that shouldn't be classified after the fact, but it seems no matter how much we explain this to you, you still aren't going to get it.

 

[JoeB131]

Hold on there, Slick. It wasn't the straight line you imply here. Obama said the country was stable when he decided to pull our troops out. Was he lying?

Actually, it kind of was a straight line. The problem that caused it to slide back into Chaos was that the guy Bush left in charge didn't know what he was doing.

Who defended his fuckups? Merely pointed out that Bill and Hillary also said Saddam had WMDs.

And no one died because they said that. Get it?

And let's get a clarification here on "WMD". When Hillary and Bill said it, they were talking about chemical weapons, not nuclear. Bush was the one who went around talking about 'Mushroom clouds".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hillary admitted she used a private (unsecure) server exclusively...

And if you knew anything about classified information (you obviously don't), you would know that some information is automatically classified as soon as it's created. If Hillary told the truth about being able to recognize classified information when she saw it, then she KNOWINGLY kept classified information on that unsecure server...

Private doesn't' mean unsecure any more than government means secure. Government servers were hacked 13,000 times last year.

I know quite a lot about classified information. I even had a secret clearance at one point. Point is, we aren't' talking about secrets here, we are talking about items that were REPORTED IN THE MEDIA that someone classified later, probably unnecessarily.

But you keep hoping this will be the scandal that gets her... you've had so many- Travelgate, Filegate, Cattle Futures, Rose Law FIrm, Vince Foster's Suicide, Benghazi...

Just wanking off at the thought you've got her this time.

And you never do.

Point is, we aren't' talking about secrets here,

You sound very familiar with all the classified info on Hillary's server. How'd you manage that?

 

[JoeB131]

Can you show me any evidence that Republicans sent classified information over a private, unsecured server??? Powell even used two servers in order to insure classified information remained on a secure one.

SO did Hillary.

Of course, we don't know WHAT Powell had on his e-mail server. He didn't keep any of his e-mails.

Powell says he doesn't have any of his State emails - POLITICO

 

[HenryBHough]

Apology is the key to being a good president!

Don't believe me? Check out Comrade Obama's record.....

 

[JoeB131]

You sound very familiar with all the classified info on Hillary's server. How'd you manage that?

You mean other I am bothering to read the links you guys post as "That bitch had classified infor" and you read it and say, "Meh, not really."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Guy, the suppossedly classified stuff was media reports about foreign leaders.

They came out and announced details of the classified info she mishandled? Seriously? LOL!

No, they classified things that shouldn't be classified after the fact, but it seems no matter how much we explain this to you, you still aren't going to get it.

No, they classified things that shouldn't be classified after the fact

What would happen to you if you mishandled material that was classified "after the fact"?

What happens if it comes out that she also mishandled material that was classified before she received it?
Should she be charged?

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Hold on there, Slick. It wasn't the straight line you imply here. Obama said the country was stable when he decided to pull our troops out. Was he lying?

Actually, it kind of was a straight line. The problem that caused it to slide back into Chaos was that the guy Bush left in charge didn't know what he was doing.

Who defended his fuckups? Merely pointed out that Bill and Hillary also said Saddam had WMDs.

And no one died because they said that. Get it?

And let's get a clarification here on "WMD". When Hillary and Bill said it, they were talking about chemical weapons, not nuclear. Bush was the one who went around talking about 'Mushroom clouds".

"Hillary did it but nobody died and she apologized so she's totally innocent and didn't do it. If you're going to blame anyone, then blame Bush and shut the fuck up about it."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hold on there, Slick. It wasn't the straight line you imply here. Obama said the country was stable when he decided to pull our troops out. Was he lying?

Actually, it kind of was a straight line. The problem that caused it to slide back into Chaos was that the guy Bush left in charge didn't know what he was doing.

Who defended his fuckups? Merely pointed out that Bill and Hillary also said Saddam had WMDs.

And no one died because they said that. Get it?

And let's get a clarification here on "WMD". When Hillary and Bill said it, they were talking about chemical weapons, not nuclear. Bush was the one who went around talking about 'Mushroom clouds".

The problem that caused it to slide back into Chaos was that the guy Bush left in charge didn't know what he was doing.

Obama didn't put his own guy in charge?
Or did you mean Obama was the guy who didn't know what he was doing?

And no one died because they said that. Get it?

Yes, I get that they agreed with Powell and Bush.


And let's get a clarification here on "WMD". When Hillary and Bill said it, they were talking about chemical weapons, not nuclear.

So what?

 

[JoeB131]

What would happen to you if you mishandled material that was classified "after the fact"?

What happens if it comes out that she also mishandled material that was classified before she received it?
Should she be charged?

Probably nothing. probably things get mishandled all day. Probably hundreds of things get sent over e-mails that shouldn't.

I'm really trying to stop you guys before you engage in another 70 million dollar panty-sniffing investigation over nothing.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama didn't put his own guy in charge?
Or did you mean Obama was the guy who didn't know what he was doing?

Uh, no, but again, you still wouldn't understand even after I explained it to you.

So what?

Nobody was going to send their son off to die over expired cans of mustard gas.

They sent their kids off because Bush TOLD US SADDAM'S GOT A NUKE AND HE"S GOING TO GIVE IT TO BIN LADEN OH MY GOD WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE.

Except it wasn't true.

 

[hadit]

That's the bottom line here. She is either incredibly sloppy and careless with classified information, or she's incredibly naive with no clue how the modern world works. I don't want either in the White House.

OR this isn't really that important.

The nature of the "Classified" material is stuff that was publicly known.

The Secretary of State NOT handling ANY highly classified information leans things toward total incompetence. You can say she was, but I'd rather not contemplate having that level of incompetence in that office.

 

[hadit]

What would happen to you if you mishandled material that was classified "after the fact"?

What happens if it comes out that she also mishandled material that was classified before she received it?
Should she be charged?

Probably nothing. probably things get mishandled all day. Probably hundreds of things get sent over e-mails that shouldn't.

I'm really trying to stop you guys before you engage in another 70 million dollar panty-sniffing investigation over nothing.

Knowing that just makes her use of of a non-government server all the more egregious. Again, dumb.

 

[JoeB131]

The Secretary of State NOT handling ANY highly classified information leans things toward total incompetence. You can say she was, but I'd rather not contemplate having that level of incompetence in that office.

no, they have a separate system for the classifed stuff.

what she is accused of mishandling are e-mails that had information in them that someone later decided was classified, usually for an arbitrary reason. (Like someone had mentioned what a foreign leader had said to them at a reception.)

This is another case of someone trying to find a crime in something that no one thought anything of at the time. You clowns spent 70 million dollars letting Ken Starr sniff panties and all you came up wiht was Clinton did something that merited a $10,000 fine.

 

[JoeB131]

Knowing that just makes her use of of a non-government server all the more egregious. Again, dumb.

again, have you ever dealt with government computer systems? They are usually 10-15 years behind what the civilian market has.

 

[asterism]

Colin powell said Saddam had WMD's.

Do Reports of WMD Found in Iraq Vindicate George W. Bush?

No, guy, we didn't go to war over expired canisters of mustard gas. We went to war because Saddam had nukes and anthrax.

Which he totally didn't have.

Bush and Powell Lied. People Died.

But we need to get totally upset because Hillary got an email about a meeting that was totally in the news, because some arbitrary regulation calls that classified.

Actually, it was satellite imagery.

Hillary's emails contained secret CIA intelligence and satellite info

Hillary Clinton emails compromised spy satellite data on North Korean nukes - Washington Times

Hillary Clinton agrees to provide private e-mail server to FBI

 

[asterism]

Hillary admitted she used a private (unsecure) server exclusively...

And if you knew anything about classified information (you obviously don't), you would know that some information is automatically classified as soon as it's created. If Hillary told the truth about being able to recognize classified information when she saw it, then she KNOWINGLY kept classified information on that unsecure server...

Private doesn't' mean unsecure any more than government means secure. Government servers were hacked 13,000 times last year.

I know quite a lot about classified information. I even had a secret clearance at one point. Point is, we aren't' talking about secrets here, we are talking about items that were REPORTED IN THE MEDIA that someone classified later, probably unnecessarily.

But you keep hoping this will be the scandal that gets her... you've had so many- Travelgate, Filegate, Cattle Futures, Rose Law FIrm, Vince Foster's Suicide, Benghazi...

Just wanking off at the thought you've got her this time.

And you never do.

If all you had was a SECRET clearance, you don't know much about classified information and you certainly don't know much about SCI, SAP, SI, and the various compartments. SECRET clearances for military servicemembers don't even require additional background checks and don't require anyone to be "read into" procedures and regulations. There's no contract and no active monitoring of activities.

That all changes with SCI and SAP.

 

[asterism]

Guy, the suppossedly classified stuff was media reports about foreign leaders.

They came out and announced details of the classified info she mishandled? Seriously? LOL!

No, they classified things that shouldn't be classified after the fact, but it seems no matter how much we explain this to you, you still aren't going to get it.

You are probably never going to get it, that intelligence which exposes sources and methods of collection is classified until it has been deemed unclassified. Everyone read into SCI and various compartments is told this, the obligation to safeguard this information is documented in contracts everyone with clearance and access to this information signs, and that it is up to each person to uphold these standards.

There was no "retroactive" classification of satellite imagery. It was classified information the second it was obtained and it never should have left the secure system.

 

[Obiwan]

Hillary admitted she used a private (unsecure) server exclusively...

And if you knew anything about classified information (you obviously don't), you would know that some information is automatically classified as soon as it's created. If Hillary told the truth about being able to recognize classified information when she saw it, then she KNOWINGLY kept classified information on that unsecure server...

Private doesn't' mean unsecure any more than government means secure. Government servers were hacked 13,000 times last year.

I know quite a lot about classified information. I even had a secret clearance at one point. Point is, we aren't' talking about secrets here, we are talking about items that were REPORTED IN THE MEDIA that someone classified later, probably unnecessarily.

But you keep hoping this will be the scandal that gets her... you've had so many- Travelgate, Filegate, Cattle Futures, Rose Law FIrm, Vince Foster's Suicide, Benghazi...

Just wanking off at the thought you've got her this time.

And you never do.

If all you had was a SECRET clearance, you don't know much about classified information and you certainly don't know much about SCI, SAP, SI, and the various compartments. SECRET clearances for military servicemembers don't even require additional background checks and don't require anyone to be "read into" procedures and regulations. There's no contract and no active monitoring of activities.

That all changes with SCI and SAP.

But Joe learned all that while he was handing out toilet paper and sorting dirty underwear!!!!

 

[asterism]

Knowing that just makes her use of of a non-government server all the more egregious. Again, dumb.

again, have you ever dealt with government computer systems? They are usually 10-15 years behind what the civilian market has.

Not the ones used for SI. Those are years ahead of commercially available systems.

Technology Transfer - NSA/CSS

The technologies listed in the catalog below are new to commercial applications but were developed by the NSA decades ago.

https://www.nsa.gov/research/_files/tech_transfers/nsa_technology_transfer_program.pdf