On Becoming Part Of The 1%

[JoeB131]

raising the minimum wage is going to kill jobs; it's just that simple.

but you have idiot leftardz here that pretend their policies and agenda isnt costing jobs; wo why should they start being honest with themselves now?

How will raising the minimum wage kill jobs?

employers will make do with less people; giving more hours to less people

gosh ur stupid

Employers have already cut staff back to the bone, that's the problem. Seriously, try going to a Home Depot some time and getting some help.

 

[Geaux4it]

How will raising the minimum wage kill jobs?

employers will make do with less people; giving more hours to less people

gosh ur stupid

Employers have already cut staff back to the bone, that's the problem. Seriously, try going to a Home Depot some time and getting some help.

I actually agree with you re: Home Depot.. To be honest though, they have always been poor in that department. However, Lowes has available help but no one shops there.

-Geaux

 

[bedowin62]

By "made sacrifices" you mean "cheated the people who did the actual work out of their fair share of the proceeds".

Sorry, guy, the 1% that control 43% of the wealth DID NOT do 43% of the physical labor.

That argument doesn't fly and never did.

People sell their labor for a negotiated price it is the very definition of fair.

If you don't like the price someone is willing to pay for what you're selling you do not have to sell it to them do you?

What a fucking joker you are. SO, if the welfare recipient finally finds a job, and finds out he can't prosper on the wages offered, and can't get the employer to pay him more, this person should just stay on welfare. Because the welfare recipient shouldn't have to sell their labor to cheap. Right?

Is that what you are saying? Brilliant.

This from the same guy who saw two bikers waiting to ambush someone and you decided to just walk on by them. You know, not getting ambushed means looking out for the ambush itself.

you're the moron leftard; first of all you make the assumption that people can our should just be able to "stay on welfare"; and you leave out the notion of people improving themselves and making themselves more valuable. so typical of you sanctimonious left-wing nutjobs; you dont give a crap about people; you only want to pander and patronize and keep people dependant

idiot

 

[zeke]

Who would have thought that our entire economy could be brought to its knees by giving 2.8% of the workers a dollar on the hour raise. And executives wouldn't be able to get their big bonuses and raises.

Dems some powerful poor people right there. Who'd a thunk it. Maybe they (poor) will start voting to.

 

[bedowin62]

under obama; the rich are getting richer; the poor and middle class are getting poorer

true story

 

[bedowin62]

Who would have thought that our entire economy could be brought to its knees by giving 2.8% of the workers a dollar on the hour raise. And executives wouldn't be able to get their big bonuses and raises.

Dems some powerful poor people right there. Who'd a thunk it. Maybe they (poor) will start voting to.

wrong again leftard; it's not that bringing the economy to its knees; its just that it's already struggling because of other inepr progressive policies

 

[JoeB131]

liberals are simply morons. take joeb131 for example; wants tax rates on the highest brackets to remain at levels used to fund WWII.
if that was the case why didnt the Left propose that in the 4 years Dems held both chambers of Congress?

go for it dimwit!

We enjoyed our greatest prosperity when they were at those rates.

And when JFK suggested reducing them from 93% to 70%, REPUBLICANS said he was being irresponsible.

That's when Republicans were a responsible governing party.

we didnt enjoy our greatest prosperity BECAUSE of those rates though you mental middget..
ur a joke; a loser who lies to himself and distorts tings.

there are literally hundreds; maybe thousands of factors why those days were those days and that kind of American hegemony cant be repeated


what a tool you are

Guy, your arguments would be a lot more compelling if you could SPELL!!!

Of course, the reason why we enjoyed "hegonomy" in that period was because we were willing to spend the resources to have it. Not only impressive amounts of military spending, but infrastructure spending on roads, on schools, on dams, on electrification and power grids and public works.

And yes, the private sector had to offer good wages to work in a factory if it wanted to compete with the good wages the government was offering to work on a road.

 

[Geaux4it]

Who would have thought that our entire economy could be brought to its knees by giving 2.8% of the workers a dollar on the hour raise. And executives wouldn't be able to get their big bonuses and raises.

Dems some powerful poor people right there. Who'd a thunk it. Maybe they (poor) will start voting to.

 

[KNB]

you poor moron KNB. the government isnt subsidizizing minimum wage workers; it's the other way around. if they didnt have the job ALL of their needs would have to be met by the government

oh and leftard; minimum wage jobs were never meant to be a way of life; just a step up the ladder

dont blame others for the failure of progressives to create an environment of job growth; this is the 8th straight year of Progressive majority Rule

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

95% of financial gains since 2009 have gone to the rich 1% job creators. 95% of all financial gains is a substantial amount of money. Are 95% of financial gains not enough to create higher paying jobs?

How exactly does "trickle down" economics work? Shouldn't corporations who make record profits be able to expand their businesses, hire more people with higher wages and better benefits, and thus the wealth "trickles down"? Isn't that supposed to be how it works?

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

 

[Spiderman]

By "made sacrifices" you mean "cheated the people who did the actual work out of their fair share of the proceeds".

Sorry, guy, the 1% that control 43% of the wealth DID NOT do 43% of the physical labor.

That argument doesn't fly and never did.

People sell their labor for a negotiated price it is the very definition of fair.

If you don't like the price someone is willing to pay for what you're selling you do not have to sell it to them do you?

What a fucking joker you are. SO, if the welfare recipient finally finds a job, and finds out he can't prosper on the wages offered, and can't get the employer to pay him more, this person should just stay on welfare. Because the welfare recipient shouldn't have to sell their labor to cheap. Right?

Is that what you are saying? Brilliant.

This from the same guy who saw two bikers waiting to ambush someone and you decided to just walk on by them. You know, not getting ambushed means looking out for the ambush itself.

I didn't mention welfare at all did I?

The simple fact is that if you accept a job offered by someone else at the price they are willing to pay then by definition it is a fair offer.

You voluntarily took the job.

You now have options. If you can't get by on the one job you can work 2. You can increase your skill set and then find a better paying job

WHat is so fucking hard to understand about that concept?

 

[Geaux4it]

you poor moron KNB. the government isnt subsidizizing minimum wage workers; it's the other way around. if they didnt have the job ALL of their needs would have to be met by the government

oh and leftard; minimum wage jobs were never meant to be a way of life; just a step up the ladder

dont blame others for the failure of progressives to create an environment of job growth; this is the 8th straight year of Progressive majority Rule

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

95% of financial gains since 2009 have gone to the rich 1% job creators. 95% of all financial gains is a substantial amount of money. Are 95% of financial gains not enough to create higher paying jobs?

How exactly does "trickle down" economics work? Shouldn't corporations who make record profits be able to expand their businesses, hire more people with higher wages and better benefits, and thus the wealth "trickles down"? Isn't that supposed to be how it works?

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

It is cost prohibitive to stock holders to create jobs under Obama rule

-Geaux

 

[Spiderman]

[

Last time I checked Obama had been elected he doesn't want a $15 min wage and he doesn't want a 93% tax bracket.

You people don't understand the definition of the word fair.

If you apply for a job and you ask for X salary the person offering the job counters and offers you Y salary and you accept then that is a fairly negotiated wage is it not?

It isn't rocket science.

Well, no, Fair is full disclosure.

I'm not allowed to tell my co-workers what I make and they aren't allowed to tell me what they make. They also keep the salaries of the executives largely secret.

If you signed a contract stating that then you have nothing to botch about do you?

Now, admittably, if my boss 12 years ago had said, 'Well, we are going to hire you at this rate, but if you get sick, we are going to find a bullshit reason to fire you rather than pay out insurance claims", that would have been a fair negotiation. I also would have run screaming from that place in a serpentine pattern.

Miss enough work and you get fired. Again not rocket science.

Frankly, never worked for an employer who didn't bald-face lie to me at every oppurtunity, and I don't even expect them to tell me the truth anymore.

Then stop working for other people if you hate it so much.

 

[Spiderman]

you poor moron KNB. the government isnt subsidizizing minimum wage workers; it's the other way around. if they didnt have the job ALL of their needs would have to be met by the government

oh and leftard; minimum wage jobs were never meant to be a way of life; just a step up the ladder

dont blame others for the failure of progressives to create an environment of job growth; this is the 8th straight year of Progressive majority Rule

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

95% of financial gains since 2009 have gone to the rich 1% job creators. 95% of all financial gains is a substantial amount of money. Are 95% of financial gains not enough to create higher paying jobs?

How exactly does "trickle down" economics work? Shouldn't corporations who make record profits be able to expand their businesses, hire more people with higher wages and better benefits, and thus the wealth "trickles down"? Isn't that supposed to be how it works?

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

No one has an obligation to create jobs.

So stop whining and do something about your situation.

 

[KNB]

Yes, they voluntarily took the only job that was available, and were lucky enough to be hired over the 36 other applicants, so those employees should be grateful that they get shit wages and no health plan.

When people finally get a job, Republicans say, "Go get another job." When someone is working two jobs and it still isn't enough, Republicans say, "Go improve your skill set." When student loan debt reaches $1t and college graduates still can't find any work, Republicans say, "You chose the wrong major."

No matter what poor people do, Republicans will call them pathetic. And no matter what horrible things rich people do, like funding drug cartels and terrorists, Republicans will call them job creators even though record corporate profits obviously don't lower unemployment numbers.

 

[KNB]

you poor moron KNB. the government isnt subsidizizing minimum wage workers; it's the other way around. if they didnt have the job ALL of their needs would have to be met by the government

oh and leftard; minimum wage jobs were never meant to be a way of life; just a step up the ladder

dont blame others for the failure of progressives to create an environment of job growth; this is the 8th straight year of Progressive majority Rule

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

95% of financial gains since 2009 have gone to the rich 1% job creators. 95% of all financial gains is a substantial amount of money. Are 95% of financial gains not enough to create higher paying jobs?

How exactly does "trickle down" economics work? Shouldn't corporations who make record profits be able to expand their businesses, hire more people with higher wages and better benefits, and thus the wealth "trickles down"? Isn't that supposed to be how it works?

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

No one has an obligation to create jobs.

So stop whining and do something about your situation.

Actually, if FOX News keeps talking about these "job creators", then yeah, those "job creators" have an obligation to create jobs. Otherwise, how can FOX News keep calling them "job creators"?

 

[zeke]

Who would have thought that our entire economy could be brought to its knees by giving 2.8% of the workers a dollar on the hour raise. And executives wouldn't be able to get their big bonuses and raises.

Dems some powerful poor people right there. Who'd a thunk it. Maybe they (poor) will start voting to.

wrong again leftard; it's not that bringing the economy to its knees; its just that it's already struggling because of other inepr progressive policies

Well are you not the dumb fuck.

The ultra wealthy that you worship are doing great. Don't you ever read anything about how well the ultra wealthy are doing. How their wealth and income has grown. So fuck the idea that the ultra wealth is struggling.

But somehow, poor people with jobs and more money in their pockets to spend is the most terrible idea ever. Even though most of our economy is based on consumer spending, somehow having consumers with more money to spend is BAD BAD BAD.

You understand how fucking stupid that makes you sound? Probably not.

 

[bedowin62]

you poor moron KNB. the government isnt subsidizizing minimum wage workers; it's the other way around. if they didnt have the job ALL of their needs would have to be met by the government

oh and leftard; minimum wage jobs were never meant to be a way of life; just a step up the ladder

dont blame others for the failure of progressives to create an environment of job growth; this is the 8th straight year of Progressive majority Rule

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

95% of financial gains since 2009 have gone to the rich 1% job creators. 95% of all financial gains is a substantial amount of money. Are 95% of financial gains not enough to create higher paying jobs?

How exactly does "trickle down" economics work? Shouldn't corporations who make record profits be able to expand their businesses, hire more people with higher wages and better benefits, and thus the wealth "trickles down"? Isn't that supposed to be how it works?

So when do billionaire job creators start creating jobs?

good one moron; thanks for admitting the rich are getting RICHER FASTER under obama; than they did under Republicans.

job creators would rather grow their businesses than just sit on their cash. are you so stupid you cant understand that? did they just become "greedy" since obama got in office? do you really want to go with that? because you arent man enought to ask WHY they are sitting on their money; making record profits; instead of putting money back into their operations and expanding? i thought you left-wingers were the critical thinkers?

 

[JoeB131]

[

Miss enough work and you get fired. Again not rocket science.

Guy, in six years I took all of 11 sick days.

8 of them for major surgery.

The problem, as I've explained to you several times, is that Cigna didn't want to pay the bills. So they encouraged this company to let people go once they ran up too many medical bills.

Now, I've explained this to you several times, and you keep not wanting to get it.

I guess because it shatters your illusion of beneficient employers being abused by mean old workers demanding fair treatment.

But here's the thing. Obama Won. The GOP will NEVER hold the presidency again unless it majorly changes its tune.

Your position has lost, and socialism like Europe is pretty much inevitable.

 

[bedowin62]

Who would have thought that our entire economy could be brought to its knees by giving 2.8% of the workers a dollar on the hour raise. And executives wouldn't be able to get their big bonuses and raises.

Dems some powerful poor people right there. Who'd a thunk it. Maybe they (poor) will start voting to.

wrong again leftard; it's not that bringing the economy to its knees; its just that it's already struggling because of other inepr progressive policies

Well are you not the dumb fuck.

The ultra wealthy that you worship are doing great. Don't you ever read anything about how well the ultra wealthy are doing. How their wealth and income has grown. So fuck the idea that the ultra wealth is struggling.

But somehow, poor people with jobs and more money in their pockets to spend is the most terrible idea ever. Even though most of our economy is based on consumer spending, somehow having consumers with more money to spend is BAD BAD BAD.

You understand how fucking stupid that makes you sound? Probably not.

yes you mindless moron; the ultra-wealthy ARE doing better under obama than they did under Republicans. i said the ECONOMY is struggling; the DOW and rich people arent the economy you dolt. there is less volume in that record DOW than there has ben in the past; people are making money off of FOREIGN investment. back home we have the LOWEST RATE OF PARTICIPATION IN THE LABOR MARKET IN 40 YEARS, record welfare and food stamps, and record numbers of ABLE-BODIED people not even participating in the labor force. also record numbers collecting some kind of federal disability


you keep blaming your own failures on others

ur a joke

 

[JoeB131]

[
If you signed a contract stating that then you have nothing to botch about do you?
.

Guy, I didn't "sign a contract". That's the point. A contract would actually obligate them to something.

What I got was a list of company rules, which says right on the first page "THIS IS NOT A CONTRACT".

I've seen people fired for being gay, for getting pregnant, for complaining about safety issues.

One lady got fired because she put her resume on Craig's List and the company didn't like what she had to say. (even though what she said was absolutely true.)

SO here's the thing. We elect a guy like Obama, someone I'd have never voted for 20 years ago but happily did in 2012, and he changes the dynamic away from employers and back to workers...

And I guess the employers had nothing to botch about, as they brought it upon themselves.