On Racism

[martybegan]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

 

[Blues Man]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

 

[martybegan]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

 

[Blues Man]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

 

[martybegan]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

You get less consideration at sentencing for being a habitual offender. You get less chances to plea down or a lesser degree of plea down for being a repeat offender.

 

[Blues Man]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

You get less consideration at sentencing for being a habitual offender. You get less chances to plea down or a lesser degree of plea down for being a repeat offender.

So you just assume every Black person is a repeat offender ?

and since only 3-5% of cases actually go to trial it seems that it doesn't matter if the person is a repeat offender or not.

But did you ever consider that since Blacks are arrested up to 11 times more often that whites for drug crimes even though both Blacks and whites participate in the drug trade at comparable rates that maybe since Blacks get arrested at a higher rate that there might be more Blacks with multiple arrests?

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

 

[martybegan]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

You get less consideration at sentencing for being a habitual offender. You get less chances to plea down or a lesser degree of plea down for being a repeat offender.

So you just assume every Black person is a repeat offender ?

and since only 3-5% of cases actually go to trial it seems that it doesn't matter if the person is a repeat offender or not.

But did you ever consider that since Blacks are arrested up to 11 times more often that whites for drug crimes even though both Blacks and whites participate in the drug trade at comparable rates that maybe since Blacks get arrested at a higher rate that there might be more Blacks with multiple arrests?

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

You don't have to assume, just watch shows like the first 48. Most of the murderers are black, and most of them have criminal records a page long.

Have you ever seen the difference between white and black drug use/selling? Whites hide in their houses to smoke up, put wet towels down on floor to keep in the smoke, and use spoofs, blacks tend to smoke out in the open.

Same thing with the dealing. White drug users/dealers usually are far more cagey about being out in the open, the drug trade in black neighborhoods is out in the open.

 

[Blues Man]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

You get less consideration at sentencing for being a habitual offender. You get less chances to plea down or a lesser degree of plea down for being a repeat offender.

So you just assume every Black person is a repeat offender ?

and since only 3-5% of cases actually go to trial it seems that it doesn't matter if the person is a repeat offender or not.

But did you ever consider that since Blacks are arrested up to 11 times more often that whites for drug crimes even though both Blacks and whites participate in the drug trade at comparable rates that maybe since Blacks get arrested at a higher rate that there might be more Blacks with multiple arrests?

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

You don't have to assume, just watch shows like the first 48. Most of the murderers are black, and most of them have criminal records a page long.

Have you ever seen the difference between white and black drug use/selling? Whites hide in their houses to smoke up, put wet towels down on floor to keep in the smoke, and use spoofs, blacks tend to smoke out in the open.

Same thing with the dealing. White drug users/dealers usually are far more cagey about being out in the open, the drug trade in black neighborhoods is out in the open.

Shows like the First 48?

Are you really going to use that as a metric?

But I take it from your last sentence that you think Black drug dealers are just plain dumber than White drug dealers.

 

[martybegan]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

You don't get jail time for past crimes

You get less consideration at sentencing for being a habitual offender. You get less chances to plea down or a lesser degree of plea down for being a repeat offender.

So you just assume every Black person is a repeat offender ?

and since only 3-5% of cases actually go to trial it seems that it doesn't matter if the person is a repeat offender or not.

But did you ever consider that since Blacks are arrested up to 11 times more often that whites for drug crimes even though both Blacks and whites participate in the drug trade at comparable rates that maybe since Blacks get arrested at a higher rate that there might be more Blacks with multiple arrests?

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

You don't have to assume, just watch shows like the first 48. Most of the murderers are black, and most of them have criminal records a page long.

Have you ever seen the difference between white and black drug use/selling? Whites hide in their houses to smoke up, put wet towels down on floor to keep in the smoke, and use spoofs, blacks tend to smoke out in the open.

Same thing with the dealing. White drug users/dealers usually are far more cagey about being out in the open, the drug trade in black neighborhoods is out in the open.

Shows like the First 48?

Are you really going to use that as a metric?

But I take it from your last sentence that you think Black drug dealers are just plain dumber than White drug dealers.

I wouldn't call it dumber, I would call it not giving a shit.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

Sentencing is a product of an entire social history of the person convicted, written by a Probation Officer (PO). The Social Study (Pre Sentence Report) includes a prior criminal record, a summary of the police report(s), education, employment history, drug and alcohol use or abuse, victims letters and responses from family, friends, employers, teachers and both the prosecutor and the defense attorney.

The PO interviews the defendant and puts it all together with a recommendation to the Judge. In the report the PO will assess any mitigation or aggravation of the instant crime(s) and recommend a disposition.

The sentence should not be prejudiced by the color, ethnicity or genders of the Defendant, and the Judge will sentence the defendant by the Rules of the Court, a factor which has interfered in the Judges discretion and created institutional racism in the Federal Court System.

As to the public education system, all of the above in your question, depending on the School Board, the district and other variables, dependent and independent effects on the school system and the outcome of its students.

 

[Pete7469]

Some asinine shit he cut and pasted from a moonbat website

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

It is correct that no law can be passed that will end racism, if there was a legislative cure for stupid we would have no liberals either. To pretend that some blacks don't hate whites, or that some blacks don't do things that cause some whites to fear them is just as asinine as the belief in MMGW.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

To any rational person, race is a bullshit concept, it is used and exploited by sniveling bed wetters to divide people. We are all a single human race, we are all citizens of one country. It's leftist parasites that divide, they have hyphenated our nation, promoted inane shit like "gender neutral" pronouns and have even fucked up our ability to joke around about things and reduce hostility.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

Welcome 1776 asshole. You are anything BUT a "Patriot".

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

It is past time to ignore sniveling bed wetters that divide us. It is time to stop giving these parasites political power and pretend that they're just people with a different perspective. They are the enemies of the Constitution. They're traitors. They are the people causing chaos in the streets, they're the people committing crimes, promoting deviant behavior and deliberately undermining our freedom to create a global nanny state.

FUCK THESE ASSHOLES....


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[Blues Man]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

So we just make ThoughtCrime a thing, punish anyone who thinks differently, and hope that one day unemotional robots take over to give us the perfect society you are looking for.

There will always be feelings of discomfort when it comes to things that are different to us. The issue is do we treat this low grade form of racism as the same as actual hard core racism.

Because if you do, then you have to then go after ALL forms of discomfort of others, and good luck with that.

you can't do much about racism on an individual basis but you can wring it out of the system.

Again, what degree of racism are we talking about? Everyone suffers from fear or dislike of other, even if muted and suppressed.

Lefties on this board don't like religious people, or conservatives, or gun owners. how is that any worse than low grade racism?

Systemic racism is the problem. Some people will alwys be racist but our institutions need not be

racism like any other bias isn't on/off, there are always degrees.

In individuals yes is government systems there either is or there isn't and in this country there definitely is

What laws or systems have inherent and documented racism built into them?

Not things that rely on people, but actual systemic processes with built in racism?

And lets not go into the low hanging fruit, i.e. Affirmative Action.

Let's see the fact that Blacks get longer prison sentences that Whites for the same crime
The fact that Blacks get denied bail more often than Whites for the same crime

The fact that Schools in Black communities are some of the worst in the country

Fourteen Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Criminal Justice System | Common Dreams

The biggest crime in the U.S. criminal justice system is that it is a race-based institution where African-Americans are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. Saying the US criminal system is racist may be politically controversial in some circles. But...

www.commondreams.org

The same crime and the same criminal record? Is that included in the calculations?

As for public education, is the issue money, the teachers, the students, or the parents?

Sentencing is a product of an entire social history of the person convicted, written by a Probation Officer (PO). The Social Study (Pre Sentence Report) includes a prior criminal record, a summary of the police report(s), education, employment history, drug and alcohol use or abuse, victims letters and responses from family, friends, employers, teachers and both the prosecutor and the defense attorney.

The PO interviews the defendant and puts it all together with a recommendation to the Judge. In the report the PO will assess any mitigation or aggravation of the instant crime(s) and recommend a disposition.

The sentence should not be prejudiced by the color, ethnicity or genders of the Defendant, and the Judge will sentence the defendant by the Rules of the Court, a factor which has interfered in the Judges discretion and created institutional racism in the Federal Court System.

As to the public education system, all of the above in your question, depending on the School Board, the district and other variables, dependent and independent effects on the school system and the outcome of its students.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Sentencing in more than 95% of cases is set by the prosecutor to the defendant and it sounds something like this.

Prosecutor: If you plead guilty right now you'll get X time in prison but if you choose to go to trial you will get 10X time in prison and I'll make sure you don't get bail so you will be in prison for years before you even see a court room.

If every person chose to go to trial the entire system would collapse.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

What a load of crock!! You are a blatant hypocrite!
1. Racism has existed all across this planet since humans spread across it and it exists still today...everywhere. Arab Muslims in the Sudan were killing black Muslims in Sudan and when asked why they were being killed, the response was, "because you are black." Asian racists hate whites, blacks and anyone else that isn't Asian. African blacks don't like American blacks, reason, they consider them inferior. We are descended from hominids and before that from primates. As hard as we try to rid the world of racism, you can't stop "thought." I believe that it is a sort of tribal or pack thing. When you see someone different and things go wrong, you look at those that are different. Is it right? No. But, as I said, you can't stop thought. Humans are imperfect.
2. List the "racist" things the president has said. To date, he has been doing his best for the minority communities by reducing regulations and creating "opportunity zones" in the inner-cities and enacted prison reform. The problem is, he can't run the cities, that's the job of the mayors and governors in the states. And, the last I looked, most of the dysfunctional cities when it comes to the blacks, are Democrat run ones.
3. As for any hate or fear passed down regarding blacks...take a look at the criminal statistics in the inner-cities. Blacks commit far more crime than any other population, so the public gets nervous when they see a group of blacks walking in their direction. Are they criminals, perhaps not, but statistically speaking, be nervous. You have that right and the right to not be robbed, beaten or, murdered.
4. You spoke of rights denied Chinese and Japanese. I hate to burst your ignorant bubble, but Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, et cetera) are scholastically kicking blacks, Hispanics and whites butts and are the best paid minorities in the US. There is nothing holding them back, nothing. As for Native Americans, that is an ongoing tragedy. They go to poor schools on the reservations and if they are lucky, they manage to get into college, but most aren't and they live out their lives on the reservations. That has to change.
5. All minorities have the same rights as anyone else. But, when a culture grows in the inner-cities that glorifies criminals and considers them martyrs, it's because the people running those cities, don't care.
6. Your quoting passages from the Constitution is all well and good, but in saying them, you are ignoring one of the most important words in it....Liberty. The liberty to live life without a "thought police," the liberty to not live under a one-party authoritarian government. The liberty to speak your mind freely.
7. As for migrants, we are a collection of nations states and in our case, borders, border patrol, customs, ICE and the Coast Guard are needed to protect those borders and when people wish to come in, they MUST be vetted to ensure that such individuals are not fleeing arrest warrants from other nations, aren't known criminals, sex traffickers posing as parents with kids, or drug-cartel members. And, frankly, the left screams about the environment, yet stupidly wants to allow in millions more people who will create millions more and thus more deforestation, loss of wildlife habitat, more paved streets and highways, more condos, businesses and parking lots and at some point, that massively increased population will look at our National Parks, National Forests and Wildlife Refuges and demand those for development. And, as 82% of the people from south of the border are hardcore Catholics, you can be they'll be reproducing exponentially. Me personally, I'd say, a total moratorium on any immigration; I don't care where they are from.

 

[Correll]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

Blacks have a decision to make, either you are an American, or you can immediately self-deport to Liberia! As for you fascist democrats, your time has run its course, you have revealed yourselves to America, you are just as much the slavers today, as you were in 1864!

Whites have a decision to make, raise your kids to respect others, and they will be respected.

That goes for all races.

Rye Catcher is a racist. He thinks only whites need to do that.

No, only white assholes like you and most of the others who have posted negative responses on this thread are racists.

Disagreeing with you, having a negative response to your ideas, is not racism.


Yet you call us racist.


YOu are the problem.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

Blacks have a decision to make, either you are an American, or you can immediately self-deport to Liberia! As for you fascist democrats, your time has run its course, you have revealed yourselves to America, you are just as much the slavers today, as you were in 1864!

Whites have a decision to make, raise your kids to respect others, and they will be respected.

That goes for all races.

Rye Catcher is a racist. He thinks only whites need to do that.

No, only white assholes like you and most of the others who have posted negative responses on this thread are racists.

Disagreeing with you, having a negative response to your ideas, is not racism.


Yet you call us racist.


YOu are the problem.

What problem is that?

That I use the seminal documents to support my opinions, question yours, which lack substance or evidence?

 

[Correll]

Not the Emancipation Proclamation nor any Amendment or statutory law has never made a dent in racism and other forms of bigotry in our country; only when hate and fear of black men are no longer passed down from parent to child will acceptance be possible.

Anyone familiar with the postings on this message board cannot deny that racism exists today, covertly and even overtly in the comments of the supporters of Trump, and those who vote for GOP members of Congress.

It's time for patriots to acknowledge that all people have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness and the nation's leader strives to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

It's past time for all of us to enjoy equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice, something denied by the establishment to Native Americans, Chinese and Japanese, The Irish, migrants from Mexico and other American nations seeking a better and safer life; and to blacks, many of whom are descendants of slaves who had been in the United States before it was created.

Blacks have a decision to make, either you are an American, or you can immediately self-deport to Liberia! As for you fascist democrats, your time has run its course, you have revealed yourselves to America, you are just as much the slavers today, as you were in 1864!

Whites have a decision to make, raise your kids to respect others, and they will be respected.

That goes for all races.

Rye Catcher is a racist. He thinks only whites need to do that.

No, only white assholes like you and most of the others who have posted negative responses on this thread are racists.

Disagreeing with you, having a negative response to your ideas, is not racism.


Yet you call us racist.


YOu are the problem.

What problem is that?

That I use the seminal documents to support my opinions, question yours, which lack substance or evidence?

You took an action, that contained no indication of racism, and used it, as a reason to call us racist.


The problem is the use of false accusations of racism, to marginalize the words and ideas of Whites.


The evidence I am citing is your behavior, which I just cited. Twice. And explained. Will you now address it?