On this 4th of July........Don’t forget to thank a Liberal

[Harry Dresden]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

that common people should vote
unless they were black or female.....

It was a start

Liberals got to the other two at a later date

a much later date.....

Conservatives never seemed to get around to it

while liberals always put it off....

 

[Harry Dresden]

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

the people of their day cared about the country first....

Except Conservatives

We used to tar and feather them

bullshit RW...there were colonial conservatives who wanted those people out just as much as the colonial lib of the day did.....AND there was i am sure, a lot of colonial liberals who were too scared to join the team just like the kiss ass republicans of the day.....

Actually, conservatives of the day supported the monarchy
That is where the money was

RW there was lots of money to be made in the new place too....dam i did not think you were that far compelled.....

 

[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Yes indeed, thank you liberals for opening the door for someone like Trump. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Fear and repressed hatred opened the door to Trump

Perhaps....fear and repressed hatred of turning this country into a shithole....like Obama was doing.

I know......ensuring healthcare for all, protecting the environment, protecting the needy makes for a shithole

Healthcare is not a right, and insurance is not healthcare

God Given, Inalienable Rights
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness

 

[rightwinger]

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

the people of their day cared about the country first....

Except Conservatives

We used to tar and feather them

bullshit RW...there were colonial conservatives who wanted those people out just as much as the colonial lib of the day did.....AND there was i am sure, a lot of colonial liberals who were too scared to join the team just like the kiss ass republicans of the day.....

Actually, conservatives of the day supported the monarchy
That is where the money was

RW there was lots of money to be made in the new place too....dam i did not think you were that far compelled.....

The US was a poor country, deep in debt

 

[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

that common people should vote
unless they were black or female.....

It was a start

Liberals got to the other two at a later date

a much later date.....

Conservatives never seemed to get around to it

while liberals always put it off....

Conservatives tended to react violently when new rights were suggested

 

[9thIDdoc]

But that was Liberals long ago before they were perverted by Left wing ideology. Silly to thank somebody for something that someone else did.

 

[OKTexas]

They think because the have finally accepted 18 th century liberal values, that make them like the founders

They're always 50 years or more behind the curve. And the moment they do accept the new normal they immediately claim responsibility for it. I've observed this and it is weird to say the least, they always want credit for something they had no part in. They'll chastise Barack Obama for saying "you didn't build that" when he was referring to roads and bridges which the government built that help all businesses that have to transport goods over roads and businesses. But they do worse when they tell Obama "you didn't build that" regarding the economy recovered from The Bush Great Recession.

Yes, he built that.

The hypocrisy is huge but cons have zero humility and zero character.

ROFLMFAO, of course the fact that citizens paid for all the infrastructure through taxes, means they really had no hand in any of it, it's all the government, RIGHT?. You really are a fucking idiot.


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You live in a weird haze bugwit. Your brain twists everything to fit a bizarro worldview.

Here's a little hint for ya nitwit, there were roads and bridges before there was a federal government. Government is a consumer, it's not a producer. It has no value that we and our forefathers didn't give it. And we damn sure don't get a dollars worth of value form the dollars we give it.
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Oh so you live in the hypothetical.

Let's clarify. Of the bridges across main waterways in all states and larger cities how many were built with other than government funding.

You are so married to your own bullshit you have a frantic aversion to reality. If you own a drug store on one side of a waterway and use a bridge to get there from the other side, you didn't build that bridge. Society collectively paid for and built the bridge. That your taxes accounted for 3 bolts in the bridge doesn't entitle you to say you built it.

Except in your mind evidently. You drive down a highway and you think your few dollars of taxes paved a 1,000 miles of road when it didn't even pay for a single foot of it.

Ok Nitwit? No I'm sure it isn't ok, next you'll tell us that you WERE there at the big bang because the atoms in your body were formed from it. You spend far too much time talking to the other empty-skulls in your bubble. Get out once in a while.

Once again, the bridge won't stand without those 3 bolts and the bolts and other materials provided by other tax payers. The government doesn't design or build bridges or other projects. They simply consolidate the tax money paid by millions of tax payers. But only after they consume much of that money to administer it. The fact is local governments can do it better and at a much lower cost. That's been proven time and again, you just need to simply compare what the States pay for a mile of road versus a federally funded project.


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[Harry Dresden]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Now you'll see cons frantically revise history to fit their Stalinesque view.

They think because the have finally accepted 18 th century liberal values, that make them like the founders

They're always 50 years or more behind the curve. And the moment they do accept the new normal they immediately claim responsibility for it. I've observed this and it is weird to say the least, they always want credit for something they had no part in. They'll chastise Barack Obama for saying "you didn't build that" when he was referring to roads and bridges which the government built that help all businesses that have to transport goods over roads and businesses. But they do worse when they tell Obama "you didn't build that" regarding the economy recovered from The Bush Great Recession.

Yes, he built that.

The hypocrisy is huge but cons have zero humility and zero character.

cons have zero humility and zero character
you live in California and you say this?....you do realize there are some pretty shitty democrat politicians in the State?.....

 

[rightwinger]

But that was Liberals long ago before they were perverted by Left wing ideology. Silly to thank somebody for something that someone else did.

A Liberal, is a Liberal, is a Liberal

It is a mindset of how they react to the issues of the day
The issues may change and liberalism will evolve to face them

Our founders were not just liberals....but extreme liberals

 

[OKTexas]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

The liberalism of the Founding Fathers was exactly the opposite of the kind you have been brainwashed with. They believed in freedom. You don't. Notice that freedom was the main goal of the Founding Fathers, and you don't even mention it. They certainly didn't give a fuck about the common people voting. In fact they greatly feared it.

Why do Conservatives continuallly regurgitate nonsense like.......Liberals don’t believe in freedom?

It shows how limited your intelligence is

Recent examples prove otherwise.


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[rightwinger]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

The liberalism of the Founding Fathers was exactly the opposite of the kind you have been brainwashed with. They believed in freedom. You don't. Notice that freedom was the main goal of the Founding Fathers, and you don't even mention it. They certainly didn't give a fuck about the common people voting. In fact they greatly feared it.

Why do Conservatives continuallly regurgitate nonsense like.......Liberals don’t believe in freedom?

It shows how limited your intelligence is

Recent examples prove otherwise.


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Hardly

 

[Harry Dresden]

the people of their day cared about the country first....

Except Conservatives

We used to tar and feather them

bullshit RW...there were colonial conservatives who wanted those people out just as much as the colonial lib of the day did.....AND there was i am sure, a lot of colonial liberals who were too scared to join the team just like the kiss ass republicans of the day.....

Actually, conservatives of the day supported the monarchy
That is where the money was

RW there was lots of money to be made in the new place too....dam i did not think you were that far compelled.....

The US was a poor country, deep in debt

not much of a business man are you?......

 

[Harry Dresden]

that common people should vote
unless they were black or female.....

It was a start

Liberals got to the other two at a later date

a much later date.....

Conservatives never seemed to get around to it

while liberals always put it off....

Conservatives tended to react violently when new rights were suggested

you sound like you were there RW.....are you one of those re-enactment guys?...

 

[MaryL]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Actually they were traitors to the crown that opposed being taxed for paying for a nine year war against France (1754 to 1765) The UK almost went bankrupt fighting that war. An they wanted (resonably enough) the colonist to pay it forward. That same war (French and Indian wars) and then France funding American revolutionaries 6 years later ultimately destabilized the French aristocracy to a revolution as well. What a mess that was. Rich white colonial elitists that owned slaves didn't want to pay their debt to the crown. And so it began...

 

[rightwinger]

Once again Conservatives are taking credit for what Liberals have given them

 

[sparky]

LOL! Uh, no, liberalism in the 18th century bore no resemblance to modern American liberalism. You are smoking something if you think James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington would be liberals in our day. They would view you and your fellow liberals as sick, immoral, and ignorant Jacobin radicals.

Our founders would be proud of today’s liberals ....they have the same values

They would be appalled at American Conservatism

the people of their day cared about the country first....

Except Conservatives

We used to tar and feather them

bullshit RW...there were colonial conservatives who wanted those people out just as much as the colonial lib of the day did.....AND there was i am sure, a lot of colonial liberals who were too scared to join the team just like the kiss ass republicans of the day.....

Actually, conservatives of the day supported the monarchy
That is where the money was

Which is why a LOW % actually FOUGHT FOR a revolution>

r/AskHistorians - In the revolutionary war, is it true only "3%" of Americans fought?

~S~

 

[9thIDdoc]

But that was Liberals long ago before they were perverted by Left wing ideology. Silly to thank somebody for something that someone else did.

A Liberal, is a Liberal, is a Liberal

It is a mindset of how they react to the issues of the day
The issues may change and liberalism will evolve to face them

Our founders were not just liberals....but extreme liberals

Modern liberals are far too cowardly to risk their precious selves for any ideology what-so-ever. Tories were the "liberals" of the day.

 

[sparky]

Our founding fathers were the most liberal thinkers of their era

Imagine believing that all men were created equal, that royalty were no better than anyone else, that common people should vote

Conservatives supported the King ....that is where the power was

Our liberal founding fathers risked all to create a new nation

Actually they were traitors to the crown that opposed being taxed for paying for a nine year war against France (1754 to 1765) The UK almost went bankrupt fighting that war. An they wanted (resonably enough) the colonist to pay it forward. That same war (French and Indian wars) and then France funding American revolutionaries 6 years later ultimately destabilized the French aristocracy to a revolution as well. What a mess that was. Rich white colonial elitists that owned slaves didn't want to pay their debt to the crown. And so it began...

yeah, key terms being 'elite', and 'destabilize'

~S~

 

[sparky]

But that was Liberals long ago before they were perverted by Left wing ideology. Silly to thank somebody for something that someone else did.

A Liberal, is a Liberal, is a Liberal

It is a mindset of how they react to the issues of the day
The issues may change and liberalism will evolve to face them

Our founders were not just liberals....but extreme liberals

Modern liberals are far too cowardly to risk their precious selves for any ideology what-so-ever. Tories were the "liberals" of the day.

Tories were suck ups

~S~

 

[bigrebnc1775]

But that was Liberals long ago before they were perverted by Left wing ideology. Silly to thank somebody for something that someone else did.

A Liberal, is a Liberal, is a Liberal

It is a mindset of how they react to the issues of the day
The issues may change and liberalism will evolve to face them

Our founders were not just liberals....but extreme liberals

Modern liberals are far too cowardly to risk their precious selves for any ideology what-so-ever. Tories were the "liberals" of the day.

Tories were suck ups

~S~

They would also be anti gun just like modern day liberals.