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One Conclusion from the Trump Speech

Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
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So where is the anti-gay bigotry, if it's not on the Right?
I didn't say there was "no" anti-gay bigotry on the Right.

That's not what I said.

And DING!

As USMB's King of the Straw Man Argument, you know that you are allowed one (1) "that's not what I said" per thread.

You may attempt to communicate with me on another thread, at which time I will decide whether to respond.
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This was a speech built entirely around key voting blocks.

He specifically spoke to inner city dwellers, union workers, coal miners, African-Americans, LGBT, law enforcement, disenfranchised Bernie Sanders supporters and Democrats in general. His daughter covered single moms and working moms, using Democrat talking points.
He did acknowledge along the way the "three-legged stool" of fiscal, defense and social conservatives.

Deduction: His internals must be showing he can draw Democrats across, if he can offer some common ground.

I've been saying that the question many conservatives are asking is "Please give me just one good reason that I can feel okay voting for you. Please."

Tonight would suggest that many Democrats may be asking "Please give me one good reason that I can feel okay voting for you -- because I sure don't want to vote for Hillary."

Conclusion: He could actually win this thing with surprising numbers. Numbers that standard polling will not elicit.

(Your results may vary. Tax, title and license extra. Ask your doctor. I am not a Trump supporter, just an observer.)
With Hillary and DT as the candidates, how honest are people being when polled? Will Mr. Blackman say he really wants to vote for Trump while Mrs. Blackwoman is in earshot?
 
They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Of course anytime anyone shows a specific example of the anti-gay stuff that Republican Elected Officials do you respond by saying words like "not all repubs" "not everyone" "all of them".

Of course no one, including me despite you will respond no doubt that I dont "mean it", is suggesting that EVERY ONE of any group all thinks one thing.

Mac only broadbrushes liberals. That's the kind of fake centrist he is.
I'm being told I'm a fake conservative on another thread.

It really is funny, how similar wingers are on both ends of the spectrum.

Peas in a pod.
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Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
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It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Oh, dang, this is EXACTLY as I predicted.

Now the GOP is going to claim they were the party of gay rights that brought about such things as gays in the military and same sex marriage.

Goddam I'm psychic!
You have become convinced by the LIB controlled MSM that "all REPs are homophobes and fundamentalist religious crazies. The LIB controlled MSM has made it their mission to 'cherry-pick' ANY story about ANYONE who is a REP who spews anti-gay bullshit.
There are fucking lunatics on both sides of the political spectrum.
I can find a hundred LIBs today who honestly believe if they eat dog shit they will live forever.
So fucking what?
Does that mean 'ALL LIBS SUPPORT EATING DOG SHIT'?
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.
Like Obama embraced traditional marriage, balanced budget and American values in 08. Politicians say things to get elected. Once in power, not so much.
 
Trump,will win in an epic landslide.....
I agree. The fact that traditional polls show him as choose as he is to Hillary should be making Hillary's paid asslickers shudder.
THINK!
Literally everyone who plans to vote for Hillary, when they are polled using traditional polling methods are telling the pollsters they support Hillary. That's obvious right?
However. People who plan to vote for Trump are less likely to tell pollsters their true intentions.
There are a number of reasons for this.
You all should be smart enough to figure them out.
I doubt traditional political polling methods will even be around in four years.
Cell phones are making traditional polling methods obsolete.
I predict a Trump win by 10 points in Nov.
Should Putin 'leak' thousands of Hillary's emails a couple of weeks before the election Trump's win will be closer to 20 points.
Should Trump win the Presidency he'll serve for eight years, then his daughter will become the first female US President for another eight years. That's 100% guaranteed.
The Trumps are never going to end up on the front cover of the tabloids because they are behaving like the Clintons have.
Danny, "people who plan to vote for Trump are less likely to tell pollsters their true intentions." Why would that be? I'm not smart enough to figure that out for myself, except that they're ashamed of their decision.
Chief Williams said something to the effect, "If you support a cause that requires you to wear a mask, you probably need a new cause." Maybe the same is true if you support a candidate you can't even bring yourself to admit to a POLLSTER, who really wants to know and who you will never meet or see again.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

Tissue? :laugh:

You don't have the sense to figure out that if the Republican party moved that far to the left as is suggested above,

it would be a huge victory for liberalism?

Of course you don't.

The country would look like New York. A liberal Democratic Party and a moderate Republican Party,

with the far right somewhere out on the inconsequential fringe.
Liberalism? To me it sounds like common sense. Therefore, I highly doubt it will actually happen.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
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It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Oh, dang, this is EXACTLY as I predicted.

Now the GOP is going to claim they were the party of gay rights that brought about such things as gays in the military and same sex marriage.

Goddam I'm psychic!
You have become convinced by the LIB controlled MSM that "all REPs are homophobes and fundamentalist religious crazies. The LIB controlled MSM has made it their mission to 'cherry-pick' ANY story about ANYONE who is a REP who spews anti-gay bullshit.
There are fucking lunatics on both sides of the political spectrum.
I can find a hundred LIBs today who honestly believe if they eat dog shit they will live forever.
So fucking what?
Does that mean 'ALL LIBS SUPPORT EATING DOG SHIT'?

A guy who laps up Trump's horseshit is making cracks about liberals and dogshit?

lol, how ironic.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

Tissue? :laugh:

You don't have the sense to figure out that if the Republican party moved that far to the left as is suggested above,

it would be a huge victory for liberalism?

Of course you don't.

The country would look like New York. A liberal Democratic Party and a moderate Republican Party,

with the far right somewhere out on the inconsequential fringe.
Liberalism? To me it sounds like common sense. Therefore, I highly doubt it will actually happen.

Trump is just clumsily and hamhandedly trying to do that 'move to the center' thing in the general election that everyone harps on.

In other words you won't see Trump any time soon running around waving that Bible he found in his attic,

like he was doing in the primaries.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party

Kinda hard for homosexuals not to support Trump, since Hillary gets donations from Middle East countries that execute homosexuals as a matter of law.

And if you've got a line on some good manufacturing jobs, you'll get the union rank and file. If you take a company that is about to leave its union workers and THREATEN it with a punitive tariff, you'll OWN the union rank and file.

And thing is, Trump isn't pandering when he makes these promises. This is who he is.
exactly
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party

Kinda hard for homosexuals not to support Trump, since Hillary gets donations from Middle East countries that execute homosexuals as a matter of law.

And if you've got a line on some good manufacturing jobs, you'll get the union rank and file. If you take a company that is about to leave its union workers and THREATEN it with a punitive tariff, you'll OWN the union rank and file.

And thing is, Trump isn't pandering when he makes these promises. This is who he is.
We did see how the Democrats tossed the homosexuals under the bus after Orlando.
 
Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
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Well, it's easy to understand why the Left might be confused, considering the Republican platform's endorsement of conversation therapy.
 
Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
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Well, it's easy to understand why the Left might be confused, considering the Republican platform's endorsement of conversation therapy.
That doesn't make everyone in the party the same. A few people write the platform.
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Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
.

So where is the anti-gay bigotry, if it's not on the Right?
I didn't say there was "no" anti-gay bigotry on the Right.

That's not what I said.

And DING!

As USMB's King of the Straw Man Argument, you know that you are allowed one (1) "that's not what I said" per thread.

You may attempt to communicate with me on another thread, at which time I will decide whether to respond.
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It was your strawman when you claimed "They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays."

Since I'm in the 'they' category, but I don't believe the above, that's the strawman.

Now run away and hide.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Pence said himself that gay marriage signaled ‘societal collapse’. Was it the Media that did it or Pence?

Pence and his followers apparently don't exist. They are figments of your imagination. Just ask Mac1958


Republican legislation is written on paper but Mac says its in invisible ink
 
Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
.
Well, it's easy to understand why the Left might be confused, considering the Republican platform's endorsement of conversation therapy.
That doesn't make everyone in the party the same. A few people write the platform.
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So if we're wrong to believe the platform, who should we believe?
 
We did see how the Democrats tossed the homosexuals under the bus after Orlando.

Was that before or after they tossed don't-ask-don't-tell and made gay marriage legal in many states? :cuckoo:

To suggest that Republicans are the ones to vote for when it comes to gay-friendly positions and policies is FUCKING NUTS. But I guess there are plenty of Republicans that meet the criteria enough to try to make that argument.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party

So your claim is that the GOP is in fact throwing the far right anti-union anti-gay contingent under the bus.
who said that fuckhead
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Pence said himself that gay marriage signaled ‘societal collapse’. Was it the Media that did it or Pence?

Pence and his followers apparently don't exist. They are figments of your imagination. Just ask Mac1958


Republican legislation is written on paper but Mac says its in invisible ink

Mac, for a guy who claims he's the world's greatest centrist, spends 80% of his posting on defending conservatives and attacking liberals.

I'm pretty sure that makes you a conservative, not a centrist.
 

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