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One Conclusion from the Trump Speech

Big Govt is now the Republicans thing! Women's pay inequality is their thing now too!

The world is crumbling and I alone can save it!
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
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Evangelicals dont care? Since when? Last night when they were forced to either applaud or be seen as American Hating Trump enemies?
 
I was listening to his speech and thinking: "The Elites will never allow him to win or if they do, they will get rid of him even before 1000 Kennedy's days."

Everything he said was right and great, but that would mean that there won't be a good fat place for Elites in Trump's new country. "On January 20, 2017 all Americans will wake up in a different country", Trump said. But... so will Elites, eventually they are going to become nobody, will they be happy about that?

Who are those Elites? Basically you can call them Mafia. And what does Mafia usually do to you when you are in their way? Mafia will try:
- to buy you;
- to blackmail you;
- to kill you.

First case scenario is very unlike with Trump. So...?

One of the reasons Trump won this nomination in such a landslide is because beyond ideology, beyond hype and all that other bullshit, THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL MAN. Unlike maybe the last four presidents, Trump already knows most of the world leaders and has done business in their countries. He is the landlord to the world's largest bank. He is a manager to the tenth power. He's not a politician.

America hasn't had a leader of this caliber since Reagan.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.

Evangelicals dont care? Since when? Last night when they were forced to either applaud or be seen as American Hating Trump enemies?
Maybe someone like you doesn't realize this, but not all Republicans are evangelicals. Not all evangelicals will behave as you think they will.

I say "as with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems", and you pop right in to illustrate my point.

You people are the problem, the wingers. Both ends.
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The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party

Kinda hard for homosexuals not to support Trump, since Hillary gets donations from Middle East countries that execute homosexuals as a matter of law.

And if you've got a line on some good manufacturing jobs, you'll get the union rank and file. If you take a company that is about to leave its union workers and THREATEN it with a punitive tariff, you'll OWN the union rank and file.

And thing is, Trump isn't pandering when he makes these promises. This is who he is.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

Tissue? :laugh:

You don't have the sense to figure out that if the Republican party moved that far to the left as is suggested above,

it would be a huge victory for liberalism?

Of course you don't.

The country would look like New York. A liberal Democratic Party and a moderate Republican Party,

with the far right somewhere out on the inconsequential fringe.

The GOP would have to move PRETTY FAR to get as far left as the Democrats.
 
I guess I'd boil it down to how many people are standing in the ballot box and say "aw, fuck it, let's see what happens."

These are two pretty flawed candidates, so there may be enough people who have had enough.
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Apparently you haven't. Corrupt cankles supporter
 
I was listening to his speech and thinking: "The Elites will never allow him to win or if they do, they will get rid of him even before 1000 Kennedy's days."

Everything he said was right and great, but that would mean that there won't be a good fat place for Elites in Trump's new country. "On January 20, 2017 all Americans will wake up in a different country", Trump said. But... so will Elites, eventually they are going to become nobody, will they be happy about that?

Who are those Elites? Basically you can call them Mafia. And what does Mafia usually do to you when you are in their way? Mafia will try:
- to buy you;
- to blackmail you;
- to kill you.

First case scenario is very unlike with Trump. So...?

One of the reasons Trump won this nomination in such a landslide is because beyond ideology, beyond hype and all that other bullshit, THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL MAN. Unlike maybe the last four presidents, Trump already knows most of the world leaders and has done business in their countries. He is the landlord to the world's largest bank. He is a manager to the tenth power. He's not a politician.

America hasn't had a leader of this caliber since Reagan.

No, actually Trump has won primary because Republican party is chock-full of idiots like you.

He will not have this luxury in the general election.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

Tissue? :laugh:

You don't have the sense to figure out that if the Republican party moved that far to the left as is suggested above,

it would be a huge victory for liberalism?

Of course you don't.

The country would look like New York. A liberal Democratic Party and a moderate Republican Party,

with the far right somewhere out on the inconsequential fringe.

The GOP would have to move PRETTY FAR to get as far left as the Democrats.

That wasn't what I was trying to say. You would still have two parties in opposition, it's just that the center between the two would have moved to the left.

More like the UK, for example.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.

Evangelicals dont care? Since when? Last night when they were forced to either applaud or be seen as American Hating Trump enemies?
Maybe someone like you doesn't realize this, but not all Republicans are evangelicals. Not all evangelicals will behave as you think they will.

I say "as with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems", and you pop right in to illustrate my point.

You people are the problem, the wingers. Both ends.
.

If I said all republicans are evangelicals you would have a point. Republicans have a record against the LGBT community. If you are saying Elected republicans are "the crazies" then thats on you. But they have a legislative record against them. Showing that they "care" about it.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.
 
The Republican Party has, via Trump, suddenly decided to embrace gay rights, unionism, the interests of poor black Americans, and Bernie Sanders socialists?

Sounds like those groups have won, and the far right of the GOP (you know who you are USMB posters) has suffered a grievous defeat.

If, of course, the above were true.

actually you have it backwards

the unions and gays are flocking to the party

So your claim is that the GOP is in fact throwing the far right anti-union anti-gay contingent under the bus.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Pence said himself that gay marriage signaled ‘societal collapse’. Was it the Media that did it or Pence?
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Oh, dang, this is EXACTLY as I predicted.

Now the GOP is going to claim they were the party of gay rights that brought about such things as gays in the military and same sex marriage.

Goddam I'm psychic!
 
Pretty funny to see the hardcore Left's pissiness about Thiel's and Trump's comments on this topic.

They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Gotta keep them identity groups under their thumb.
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So where is the anti-gay bigotry, if it's not on the Right?
 
They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Of course anytime anyone shows a specific example of the anti-gay stuff that Republican Elected Officials do you respond by saying words like "not all repubs" "not everyone" "all of them".

Of course no one, including me despite you will respond no doubt that I dont "mean it", is suggesting that EVERY ONE of any group all thinks one thing.
 
Thiel got a pretty loud ovation last night when he said he was proud to be gay.

I'll bet there are a lot more Republicans who don't care about this issue than we know.

As with every other issue, it's the crazies who are creating the problems.
.
It's the LIB controlled MSM who has been falsely pushing the 'All REPs are homophobes' bullshit.
Ask a million registered REPs were on the list is their concern with who is doing what to whom with their genitals.
REPs care about the economy first because a LOT of REPs actually make the effort to get a job and earn a fucking pay cheque whereas for LIBs the 'economy' is some sort of vague concept better left to those who are sending the welfare monthly welfare cheques.
Security? For LIBs if that means anyone having anything that is heavy and makes a loud noise and kills people well they'd rather not think about such things.

Pence said himself that gay marriage signaled ‘societal collapse’. Was it the Media that did it or Pence?

Pence and his followers apparently don't exist. They are figments of your imagination. Just ask Mac1958
 
They desperately don't want to believe that anyone to the right of them is not bigoted against gays.

Of course anytime anyone shows a specific example of the anti-gay stuff that Republican Elected Officials do you respond by saying words like "not all repubs" "not everyone" "all of them".

Of course no one, including me despite you will respond no doubt that I dont "mean it", is suggesting that EVERY ONE of any group all thinks one thing.

Mac only broadbrushes liberals. That's the kind of fake centrist he is.
 

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