One has to really appreciate how terrible Trump's response to the Nazi attack was

[Reasonable]

The Antifa was bussed in from at least four different places, the Antifa that were there were not even from Virginia.

The white supremacists also traveled to Charlottesville for the protests. VICE News did a whole half hour last night on the weekend's events, and when they interviewed the white supremacists, many of them came from 2 to 5 hours away, and one of the white supremacists came 12 hours all the way down from Canada. Hate to tell you Lucy, but both sides did that.

So what.

Is there some law restricting the distance one can travel to support a cause?

here's a difference from a local community protesting something and paid or ultra right and left advocates looking for trouble. When they come from hours away, they aren't there to stand with a sign and behaving.

From what I have read the group who obtained the permit was marching in complete silence, despite being yelled at and spat upon.
The problem occurred at the point the parade route was blocked by the group without a permit.
The police allowed the route to be blocked. Had they allowed the group marching to pass, no incidents would have occurred.

Last night, VICE News did their whole report on what happened over the weekend. On one of their segments when they were covering the protest at the statue, there were a bunch of white supremacists with shields, helmets and bats that were being led by a big biker looking dude. He sat there and chanted for about 30 seconds, got them to start chanting with him, and then he led the group of white supremacists in an attack on the antifa protesters. No, they weren't all peaceful.

It's a half hour segment. Here, watch it for yourself. Pay special attention to what the white supremacists are saying about this country.

Watch VICE News Tonight's full episode "Charlottesville: Race and Terror"

They're showing clips of it on CNN right now.
These hate mongers are crazy and their ranks are growing.

 

[miketx]

So is this going to be the final one that get's him? How many does that make now?

 

[SmokeALib]

Who instructed the police to Stand Down? The Mayor and the Governor, both should be arrested, actually a lawsuit is being formed already, the ACLU are also involved filing that lawsuit against the Mayor and the Governor.

It will not be shocking if before this is finished that Mayor and Governor are going to be forced to resign and made an example of because of their CRIMINAL negligence in deliberately telling the police to Stand Down and then directing the Unite The Right Crowd DIRECTLY into the path of the Antifa Far Left Fascists.

They WANTED trouble and violence, it was a set up from the beginning.

Before the above happened EVERYTHING was peaceful, Unite The Right had a Court Obtained Permit to be where they were, the Antifa Far Left Fascists did NOT, the latter should have been moved by the police therefore and someone told the police to Stand Down, then told the police to direct Unite The Right to exactly where the Antifa were waiting with CS Gas, bats, rocks and chains.

The ACLU are claiming that McAuliffe and the Mayor ordered the stand down to make certain that violence would break out and they could call the rally off because then it would be an unlawful assembly.

ACLU is being very clear, very direct saying that the Democrats in charge acted this way out of malice because the ACLU won in court. Huge charge but the ACLU is making it.

BTW this was a set up. No doubt in my mind when you look at the map of how the rally was cordoned off and leaving only two exits for the rally attendees to exit and run right into the Antifa pigs.

This is all pre-meditated and planned, they WANT another American Civil War, they want repeats of Charlottesville but across the American nation.

The word is that the next Set Up is to take place in Kentucky.

Do NOT give them what they WANT.

REJECT violence on ALL sides, do NOT walk into the next trap.

These people have NOTHING to do with the Right, just like the Antifa have NOTHING to do with actual Liberals.

They are two sides of the SAME coin, reject the poison.

And every neonazi white supremacist are stone cold Trump supporters. Funny how you fail to mention that..

That's like saying every Maytag owner is a supporter of dishwashers. Irrelevant. Damn fool.

I know you embrace your right wing hate groups. So does Trump which was the purpose of today's press conference

Bullshit dumfuk. I despise all these hate groups. And every conservative I know is the same way. Dumass.

 

[Reasonable]

LMAO! He can't shake it. Fighting with the press.
"Before I make a statement I like to know the facts".
Really? Like when he knee-jerked on Twitter that Obama wire 'tapped' him?
Like when he said in 2011 that Obama was born in Kenya then he said in 2016 that he was born in America?

Trump's Lies (because he doesn't CARE about the facts)
President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Fuck the vile media.

Without the free press, we're Russia. Oops. Trump's already working on that..

 

[tycho1572]

Ah... the NYT. You people never learn. smh

I'll ask you, as I've asked a number of others who claim the MSM is biased and not credible. What source(s) do you consult to for you daily news? No one has ever responded to this simple question.

It's certainly not an opinion piece from a liberal rag. lol

 

[Reasonable]

The ACLU are claiming that McAuliffe and the Mayor ordered the stand down to make certain that violence would break out and they could call the rally off because then it would be an unlawful assembly.

ACLU is being very clear, very direct saying that the Democrats in charge acted this way out of malice because the ACLU won in court. Huge charge but the ACLU is making it.

BTW this was a set up. No doubt in my mind when you look at the map of how the rally was cordoned off and leaving only two exits for the rally attendees to exit and run right into the Antifa pigs.

This is all pre-meditated and planned, they WANT another American Civil War, they want repeats of Charlottesville but across the American nation.

The word is that the next Set Up is to take place in Kentucky.

Do NOT give them what they WANT.

REJECT violence on ALL sides, do NOT walk into the next trap.

These people have NOTHING to do with the Right, just like the Antifa have NOTHING to do with actual Liberals.

They are two sides of the SAME coin, reject the poison.

And every neonazi white supremacist are stone cold Trump supporters. Funny how you fail to mention that..

That's like saying every Maytag owner is a supporter of dishwashers. Irrelevant. Damn fool.

I know you embrace your right wing hate groups. So does Trump which was the purpose of today's press conference

Bullshit dumfuk. I despise all these hate groups. And every conservative I know is the same way. Dumass.

Sure you do. Do you call out all the hatefilled nonsense from the white supremacists on this forum?
Of course you don't.
By you being complicit makes you one of them..

 

[Reasonable]

Ah... the NYT. You people never learn. smh

I'll ask you, as I've asked a number of others who claim the MSM is biased and not credible. What source(s) do you consult to for you daily news? No one has ever responded to this simple question.

It's certainly not an opinion piece from a liberal rag. lol

Another coward who won't answer the question.

 

[Dragonlady]

On the one hand, it took him two days to pretend to condemn racism which inevitably disappointed everyone who wasn't a racist. I think the initial refusal to do this was in large part because he desperately didn't want to lose any of his white supremacist support.

However, he did end up pretending to condemn the racism after the backlash from both republicans and democrats. From there, his support from those nazis has now likely been eroded. For everyone else, the condemnation was too little too late.

In other words, by Trump being a coward in trying to please everyone, he ended up just pissing off everyone instead.

Like anything he did would have satisfied you.

It's would be like asking PETA to pick their favorite Fried Chicken Recipe.

Right and you on the flip side will defend him regardless of what he says or does.

No, I won't. I don't like his lack of movement on tax reform, and if he decides to keep up with the AGW treaties and stuff, I'll call him out on it.

As for his proxies, Sessions can go hang when it comes to Asset forfeiture and keeping federal pot laws.

When we get hard numbers for deportations 2017, if they are not up big time, I'll be very pissed.

They down from 2016 bigly. And they're down HUGELY from Obama's first year in office.

 

[Reasonable]

LMAO! He can't shake it. Fighting with the press.
"Before I make a statement I like to know the facts".
Really? Like when he knee-jerked on Twitter that Obama wire 'tapped' him?
Like when he said in 2011 that Obama was born in Kenya then he said in 2016 that he was born in America?

Trump's Lies (because he doesn't CARE about the facts)
President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Fuck the vile media.

And someone was stupid enough to give this a " winner" rating.
This just shows these Trump whores don't ever want to learn anything or be informed. They blindly accept what their fuhrer tells them.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why did it take him two days to make that statement but about 6 minutes to bash the CEO of Merck?

The DOJ was weighing in, the situation was being investigated, and all the facts were being gathered. Unlike Obama, who like to rattle off opinions and judgments - often wrong - without facts, Trump waited until after he talked to Sessions, his US AG.

That's not the REAL issue here, though.

Liberal media rags raced to either attack Trump for not condemning the racist hate groups or tried to tie them to those groups. After Trump came out with the above, clear condemnation of these groups and their actions, Democrats were left being wrong in their reporting about Trump's refusal to condemn these groups and quickly changed the story to 'Trump Too Slow In Condemnation'.

In all honesty, which the left will never admit, this was another opportunity for the Left to attack Trump, deserved or not, and the Left is using EVERY opportunity to do so it gets. Much of the outcry against Trump is politically based, a continuance of the 'war' the Left has waged against Trump since even before the election.


President Trump made it clear:

"Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists. "To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend’s racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered..."

After this horrific event, Trump's words were actually an opportunity for the nation to come together as a whole to unify in condemnation of the KKK, Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and any and all other racist / hate groups that do not represent this nation.

Instead of emphasizing Trump's words and helping to solidify that moment / opportunity, the media sought to target and attack Trump, seeking to further divide this nation rather than use it as a moment to unite it.

The CEO, IMO, also made the wrong decision. That is my decision - you don't have to agree with it. I disagree with Trump bashing him, though. He could have made a more professional statement, 'expressing his disappointment' in his decision rather than attacking him.

Three CEO's have now quit over this issue, and Elon Musk quit when Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Nobody is willing to work with Trump because he's a Nazi sympathizer. Americans fought and died in WWII to end Nazis and white supremacy. You fools have elected one.

 

[PredFan]

It was stupid. So?

Well they calling him an idiot comes down to the image he puts out there socially.

Is it the President's job now to respond to every local story?

I wish my life was so empty that I had time to worry about the President's response to every story.

Is it the President's job now to respond to every local story?

I wish my life was so empty that I had time to worry about the President's response to every story.

Here's the real thing. Unlike the idiot that held the office before him, Trump is smart enough to know better than to open his mouth before knowing the facts.

You, me, and EVERYONE else knows full well that no matter what Trump said or when he said it, it would be criticized by the left and its lapdog media.

No, the idiot was in the White House just prior to Trump. He was the one who opened is idiot mouth immediately and said things wrong, stupid, and divisive.

What is the point you are trying to make? You seem to be all over the place.

 

[Vastator]

RIP Murica'. It's been a good run. Lol.

 

[Jackson]

The Antifa was bussed in from at least four different places, the Antifa that were there were not even from Virginia.

The white supremacists also traveled to Charlottesville for the protests. VICE News did a whole half hour last night on the weekend's events, and when they interviewed the white supremacists, many of them came from 2 to 5 hours away, and one of the white supremacists came 12 hours all the way down from Canada. Hate to tell you Lucy, but both sides did that.

So what.

Is there some law restricting the distance one can travel to support a cause?

here's a difference from a local community protesting something and paid or ultra right and left advocates looking for trouble. When they come from hours away, they aren't there to stand with a sign and behaving.

From what I have read the group who obtained the permit was marching in complete silence, despite being yelled at and spat upon.
The problem occurred at the point the parade route was blocked by the group without a permit.
The police allowed the route to be blocked. Had they allowed the group marching to pass, no incidents would have occurred.

Last night, VICE News did their whole report on what happened over the weekend. On one of their segments when they were covering the protest at the statue, there were a bunch of white supremacists with shields, helmets and bats that were being led by a big biker looking dude. He sat there and chanted for about 30 seconds, got them to start chanting with him, and then he led the group of white supremacists in an attack on the antifa protesters. No, they weren't all peaceful.

It's a half hour segment. Here, watch it for yourself. Pay special attention to what the white supremacists are saying about this country.

Watch VICE News Tonight's full episode "Charlottesville: Race and Terror"

I couldn't watch the whole thing. It was too disgusting. Thanks for an elightenment.

 

[Harry Dresden]

it would help if you told us what you witnessed today.....

 

[PredFan]

Why did it take him two days to make that statement but about 6 minutes to bash the CEO of Merck?

The DOJ was weighing in, the situation was being investigated, and all the facts were being gathered. Unlike Obama, who like to rattle off opinions and judgments - often wrong - without facts, Trump waited until after he talked to Sessions, his US AG.

That's not the REAL issue here, though.

Liberal media rags raced to either attack Trump for not condemning the racist hate groups or tried to tie them to those groups. After Trump came out with the above, clear condemnation of these groups and their actions, Democrats were left being wrong in their reporting about Trump's refusal to condemn these groups and quickly changed the story to 'Trump Too Slow In Condemnation'.

In all honesty, which the left will never admit, this was another opportunity for the Left to attack Trump, deserved or not, and the Left is using EVERY opportunity to do so it gets. Much of the outcry against Trump is politically based, a continuance of the 'war' the Left has waged against Trump since even before the election.


President Trump made it clear:

"Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists. "To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend’s racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered..."

After this horrific event, Trump's words were actually an opportunity for the nation to come together as a whole to unify in condemnation of the KKK, Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and any and all other racist / hate groups that do not represent this nation.

Instead of emphasizing Trump's words and helping to solidify that moment / opportunity, the media sought to target and attack Trump, seeking to further divide this nation rather than use it as a moment to unite it.

The CEO, IMO, also made the wrong decision. That is my decision - you don't have to agree with it. I disagree with Trump bashing him, though. He could have made a more professional statement, 'expressing his disappointment' in his decision rather than attacking him.

Three CEO's have now quit over this issue, and Elon Musk quit when Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Nobody is willing to work with Trump because he's a Nazi sympathizer. Americans fought and died in WWII to end Nazis and white supremacy. You fools have elected one.

 

[Correll]

LMAO! He can't shake it. Fighting with the press.
"Before I make a statement I like to know the facts".
Really? Like when he knee-jerked on Twitter that Obama wire 'tapped' him?
Like when he said in 2011 that Obama was born in Kenya then he said in 2016 that he was born in America?

Trump's Lies (because he doesn't CARE about the facts)
President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Fuck the vile media.

Without the free press, we're Russia. Oops. Trump's already working on that..

Your red baiting is noted and dismissed.

The media have squandered what ever credibility and/or respect they ever had.

FUCK THEM.

 

[Jackson]

LMAO! He can't shake it. Fighting with the press.
"Before I make a statement I like to know the facts".
Really? Like when he knee-jerked on Twitter that Obama wire 'tapped' him?
Like when he said in 2011 that Obama was born in Kenya then he said in 2016 that he was born in America?

Trump's Lies (because he doesn't CARE about the facts)
President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Fuck the vile media.

And someone was stupid enough to give this a " winner" rating.
This just shows these Trump whores don't ever want to learn anything or be informed. They blindly accept what their fuhrer tells them.

When you talk like that, you are not reasonable. Not all of any party are whores or don't want to learn.

 

[Correll]

LMAO! He can't shake it. Fighting with the press.
"Before I make a statement I like to know the facts".
Really? Like when he knee-jerked on Twitter that Obama wire 'tapped' him?
Like when he said in 2011 that Obama was born in Kenya then he said in 2016 that he was born in America?

Trump's Lies (because he doesn't CARE about the facts)
President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Fuck the vile media.

And someone was stupid enough to give this a " winner" rating.
This just shows these Trump whores don't ever want to learn anything or be informed. They blindly accept what their fuhrer tells them.

Your godwin smear is noted. You lose. Also, fuck you.

 

[Jackson]

Who instructed the police to Stand Down? The Mayor and the Governor, both should be arrested, actually a lawsuit is being formed already, the ACLU are also involved filing that lawsuit against the Mayor and the Governor.

It will not be shocking if before this is finished that Mayor and Governor are going to be forced to resign and made an example of because of their CRIMINAL negligence in deliberately telling the police to Stand Down and then directing the Unite The Right Crowd DIRECTLY into the path of the Antifa Far Left Fascists.

They WANTED trouble and violence, it was a set up from the beginning.

Before the above happened EVERYTHING was peaceful, Unite The Right had a Court Obtained Permit to be where they were, the Antifa Far Left Fascists did NOT, the latter should have been moved by the police therefore and someone told the police to Stand Down, then told the police to direct Unite The Right to exactly where the Antifa were waiting with CS Gas, bats, rocks and chains.

The ACLU are claiming that McAuliffe and the Mayor ordered the stand down to make certain that violence would break out and they could call the rally off because then it would be an unlawful assembly.

ACLU is being very clear, very direct saying that the Democrats in charge acted this way out of malice because the ACLU won in court. Huge charge but the ACLU is making it.

BTW this was a set up. No doubt in my mind when you look at the map of how the rally was cordoned off and leaving only two exits for the rally attendees to exit and run right into the Antifa pigs.

This is all pre-meditated and planned, they WANT another American Civil War, they want repeats of Charlottesville but across the American nation.

The word is that the next Set Up is to take place in Kentucky.

Do NOT give them what they WANT.

REJECT violence on ALL sides, do NOT walk into the next trap.

These people have NOTHING to do with the Right, just like the Antifa have NOTHING to do with actual Liberals.

They are two sides of the SAME coin, reject the poison.

And every neonazi white supremacist are stone cold Trump supporters. Funny how you fail to mention that..

Sorry we are dealing with things that are above your intellectual capability.

Now run along little boy and go to your Play Doh.

Oh look. This trump whore doesn't have the integrity to tell the truth.
All these right wing hate groups love trump. As David Duke says," Trump going to take our country back" (from the brown people)

I am conservative, but I don't love Trump and hope to replace him in the next pres. election. Can you say that you are willing to look further than what the SuperDelegates give you next?

 

[whitehall]

Didn't democrat gov McAuliffe invite the rabble and then fail to protect the citizens? Why isn't the media going after him? How can the media blame the president?