One more reason why republicans will lose big in 2014

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

GOP has it stuck on stupid on the gay boogeyman issue, abortion, immigration and some other social issues but they have it 100% right on fiscal conservatism.
Anyone that has a brain knows that we spend way too much money and have grown a large dependent moocher class. If any of you do not know someone on social security disability that has nothing wrong with them then you do not get out much. SNAP was supposed to be SUPPLEMENTAL program and we now have families totally dependent on it. Bastard kids are now born into some communities at 75% and these poor kids are destined to a life of poverty and you folks blame Republicans for that?
Heads in the sand. The war on poverty and the great society are a massive government social engineering failure. Poor families are worse off now than before it started 50 years ago. A clear cycle of government dependence and a growing parasitic moocher class.

But here's what you don't get.

The reason why we have all these "moochers' is because through a combination of offshoring, union-busting, right to work, at-will employment, and so on, the middle class jobs that used to make the working class self-reliant have largely disappeared.

You guys did this to yourselves, and now you are whining about it.

The only thing that kept you from total socialism is that you've been able to get some of the "moochers" upset about abortion and gay rights and other bullshit that doesn't really matter.

Actually whenever I drive through the city, I can find plenty of our young in impoverished neighborhoods wandering the streets refusing the free public education that has been given to them. Some are from single parent families from broken homes due to our changing society, others seem to seek the quick rewards and addictions of substance abuse as it's quite apparent quite a few do it I themselves through their OWN decisions and choices they make. Looking to find blame through actions that don't favor liberal democrats, such as unions busting and right-to-work, is merely an excuse of convenience.

 

[Gadawg73]

Woman with 5 kids on welfare with no father in the house.
How is that the fault of Republicans?

I blame the kids

Let a couple of them die and she will stop having them. Only way she will learn

While your head is in the sand.
Until we end the spiral upwards of rewarding women with children and no father, or in many cases fathers, the figures show within another generation the majority of children will live in poverty in this country.
And why? Instead of giving them structure in their lives as how to manage their expenses, how to balance a check book, how to make a meal plan, how to find public transportation to get where she can help herself, how to work a computer, how to make a house budget, how to teach her kids to read at home, how to teach her kids how to do basic math (30% of inner city kids pass the basic addition and subtraction in 3rd grade, parents fault), and most importantly DO NOT HAVE MORE KIDS because you can not feed the ones you have what do we do? We tell them 'FUCK YOU, go down to the government office and they will help you. I am too busy. But only expect a check or a card and NO HELP WHATSOEVER.
Of course it is easier and chic to blame others that want solutions to the problems, not the politically correct symptoms.

 

[Gadawg73]

I played a lot and coached many years of rec football. Within a few practices I could tell you which boys were in single parent households. And these kids were from middle class families and they still had problems. And I had many from very poor single mother households where the mother was totally irresponsible.
So what do we do to "feed the hungry kids"?
Instead of getting out and all of us feeding them we tax and have government send this irresponsible woman a check or a card at her discretion.
This country is becoming a nation of village idiots.

 

[rightwinger]

Woman with 5 kids on welfare with no father in the house.
How is that the fault of Republicans?

I blame the kids

Let a couple of them die and she will stop having them. Only way she will learn

While your head is in the sand.
Until we end the spiral upwards of rewarding women with children and no father, or in many cases fathers, the figures show within another generation the majority of children will live in poverty in this country.
And why? Instead of giving them structure in their lives as how to manage their expenses, how to balance a check book, how to make a meal plan, how to find public transportation to get where she can help herself, how to work a computer, how to make a house budget, how to teach her kids to read at home, how to teach her kids how to do basic math (30% of inner city kids pass the basic addition and subtraction in 3rd grade, parents fault), and most importantly DO NOT HAVE MORE KIDS because you can not feed the ones you have what do we do? We tell them 'FUCK YOU, go down to the government office and they will help you. I am too busy. But only expect a check or a card and NO HELP WHATSOEVER.
Of course it is easier and chic to blame others that want solutions to the problems, not the politically correct symptoms.

I am fully in favor of the nuclear family, but ho do we enforce it? Fathers are forced to pay child support when they can be found. What are you going to do to a mother who can't keep her legs closed?

 

[Unkotare]

I am fully in favor of the nuclear family, but ho do we enforce it? Fathers are forced to pay child support when they can be found. What are you going to do to a mother who can't keep her legs closed?

You liberals do tend to think of everything in terms of forcing people to do things, don't you?

 

[JoeB131]

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"Republicans want to see children starve"
"Republicans support and want dirty air and water"
"Republicans hate women and children"
"Republicans are racists" when their leading candidate was a black man for President
"Republicans are Nazis"
None of that is "mean spirited".

No, unfortunately, it's fairly accurate.

Now their used to be a time when Republicans offered alternative ways to get to desirable goals like Kids not Starving and keeping the air clean. Fuck, Nixon was the guy who started the EPA, for C'Thulhu's sake.

Those days are over. They've become so entrenched in getting the old white hater to vote against his own economic interest while the rich laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[JoeB131]

Woman with 5 kids on welfare with no father in the house.
How is that the fault of Republicans?

So what is your "republican solution"?

"Let's cut their food stamps! that'll show them!"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I am fully in favor of the nuclear family, but ho do we enforce it? Fathers are forced to pay child support when they can be found. What are you going to do to a mother who can't keep her legs closed?

You liberals do tend to think of everything in terms of forcing people to do things, don't you?

No, they just correctly understand and anticipate the conservative mindset.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Woman with 5 kids on welfare with no father in the house.
How is that the fault of Republicans?

So what is your "republican solution"?

"Let's cut their food stamps! that'll show them!"

In essence, yes.

And the issue isn’t who is ‘at fault’ because a woman with 5 kids is on welfare with no father in the house; the issue is the republican propensity to exact punitive measures against such a woman, like cutting SNAP benefits, as opposed to understanding that this family is only a symptom of a much larger problem, and the right’s refusal to address the root cause of that problem.

And the root of the problem isn’t ‘welfare’ or ‘laziness.’

 

[Iceman]

Republicans don't need the Hispanic vote, this is a myth. If they focused on supporting policies in the interests of their white middle/working class base(ie. immigration reduction/moratorium, ending free trade, opposing bailouts, non-interventionist foreign policy, real tax cuts etc) they could win multiple elections going into the future. Even if demographics shift towards a larger non-white population with amnesty granted, Republicans can win with just 65% of the White vote, no increase in non-white vote needed through 2024. It would take far more of a shift in the Hispanic vote to guarantee republican victory than shift in the white vote for Republican Victory. Of course Republicans are interested in winning elections or representing their constituents, so they will continue to lose.

I can't post a link yet, but look up the survey done by Nate Silver the New York Times forecasting demographic trends and corresponding electoral results to confirm my information.

 

[ScienceRocks]

My solution is education reform...17th sucks, try for first Make it easier to get the skills needed to advance.

 

[JoeB131]

Republicans don't need the Hispanic vote, this is a myth. If they focused on supporting policies in the interests of their white middle/working class base(ie. immigration reduction/moratorium, ending free trade, opposing bailouts, non-interventionist foreign policy, real tax cuts etc) they could win multiple elections going into the future. Even if demographics shift towards a larger non-white population with amnesty granted, Republicans can win with just 65% of the White vote, no increase in non-white vote needed through 2024. It would take far more of a shift in the Hispanic vote to guarantee republican victory than shift in the white vote for Republican Victory. Of course Republicans are interested in winning elections or representing their constituents, so they will continue to lose.

I can't post a link yet, but look up the survey done by Nate Silver the New York Times forecasting demographic trends and corresponding electoral results to confirm my information.

Getting 65% of the White Vote is a statistical impossibility.

Bush got 54% of the White vote in 2000
Bush got 58% of the White vote in 2004
McCain got 55% of the white vote in 2008
Romney got 59% of the White vote in 2012.

The reason why Bush won in 2004. (He didn't in 2000, sorry. that was stolen) was because he was smart enough to do outreach. He got 11% of the black vote and 44% of the Latino vote.

Keep in mind, next time, the Democrats are likely to nominate a white person. That means that anti-Obama racism that animated Romney's campaign like a zombie won't be there next time.

If the GOP wants to win, it has to stop with the racial bullshit and reach out to minorities.

Period.

 

[Gadawg73]

Republicans don't need the Hispanic vote, this is a myth. If they focused on supporting policies in the interests of their white middle/working class base(ie. immigration reduction/moratorium, ending free trade, opposing bailouts, non-interventionist foreign policy, real tax cuts etc) they could win multiple elections going into the future. Even if demographics shift towards a larger non-white population with amnesty granted, Republicans can win with just 65% of the White vote, no increase in non-white vote needed through 2024. It would take far more of a shift in the Hispanic vote to guarantee republican victory than shift in the white vote for Republican Victory. Of course Republicans are interested in winning elections or representing their constituents, so they will continue to lose.

I can't post a link yet, but look up the survey done by Nate Silver the New York Times forecasting demographic trends and corresponding electoral results to confirm my information.

Getting 65% of the White Vote is a statistical impossibility.

Bush got 54% of the White vote in 2000
Bush got 58% of the White vote in 2004
McCain got 55% of the white vote in 2008
Romney got 59% of the White vote in 2012.

The reason why Bush won in 2004. (He didn't in 2000, sorry. that was stolen) was because he was smart enough to do outreach. He got 11% of the black vote and 44% of the Latino vote.

Keep in mind, next time, the Democrats are likely to nominate a white person. That means that anti-Obama racism that animated Romney's campaign like a zombie won't be there next time.

If the GOP wants to win, it has to stop with the racial bullshit and reach out to minorities.

Period.

Show me any racists tactics, statements, inferences or anything Romney did that was racially motivated in the election.
Where is it or was that just another comment in a long line of them you took out of your ass.

 

[Gadawg73]

So whites that vote for a white guy that is a Republican when the Democratic candidate is half white and half black are racists.
Got it.

 

[Gadawg73]

My solution is education reform...17th sucks, try for first Make it easier to get the skills needed to advance.

How do you making putting in the hours necessary to master the math and reading skills any easier?
If anything we need to make it harder as it is too easy now.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

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It is interesting to note that President Obama has deported more people to Mexico than any other president.

Yes, there has been a huge increase in the number of deportations of Mexicans during the past 12 years. I would like to point out how your blind credit really does belong to Oduma and Holden.

First, answer this question, why did the deportations increase? Could it be from the 10 fold increase of those Mexicans fleeing their drug war ravaged country to get to somewhere a bit more safe? A drug war exacerbated by the Oduma administrations ILLEGAL fast and furious arms deals that put deadlier weapons in the hands of those killing thousands in Mexico?

Yes, it is Odumas fault, EVERY bit of it.

 

[Mertex]

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It is interesting to note that President Obama has deported more people to Mexico than any other president.

Yes, there has been a huge increase in the number of deportations of Mexicans during the past 12 years. I would like to point out how your blind credit really does belong to Oduma and Holden.

First, answer this question, why did the deportations increase? Could it be from the 10 fold increase of those Mexicans fleeing their drug war ravaged country to get to somewhere a bit more safe? A drug war exacerbated by the Oduma administrations ILLEGAL fast and furious arms deals that put deadlier weapons in the hands of those killing thousands in Mexico?

Yes, it is Odumas fault, EVERY bit of it.

Yes, you always have a reason as to why it isn't Obama that deserves the credit. We know, it was Bush that killed OBL, and it will be the Republicans that are responsible for Obamacare once it is up and running smoothly and everyone (including Republicans) like it!

 

[rightwinger]

ron4342 ron4342 is offline
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It is interesting to note that President Obama has deported more people to Mexico than any other president.

Yes, there has been a huge increase in the number of deportations of Mexicans during the past 12 years. I would like to point out how your blind credit really does belong to Oduma and Holden.

First, answer this question, why did the deportations increase? Could it be from the 10 fold increase of those Mexicans fleeing their drug war ravaged country to get to somewhere a bit more safe? A drug war exacerbated by the Oduma administrations ILLEGAL fast and furious arms deals that put deadlier weapons in the hands of those killing thousands in Mexico?

Yes, it is Odumas fault, EVERY bit of it.

Border crossings were impacted by Fast and Furious?

Someone is full of himself....or full of something else

 

[j-mac]

Border crossings were impacted by Fast and Furious?

Common sense would dictate that the answer would be yes to a degree.

 

[rightwinger]

Border crossings were impacted by Fast and Furious?

Common sense would dictate that the answer would be yes to a degree.