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But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
An open border is a good thing. You know, people and goods traveling back and forth and all.
Trumpybear wants a closed border.
The GOP talking heads want to create the illusion that an "open border" is synonymous with no or unregulated border.
"Open border is a lie"
"Yeah, actually we do want an open border"
But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
I case you missed it.What manner of person exploits the disabled to make a political point? I remember when the boor Trump did it. Birdsmofmamfeqther, I suppose. It's shameful but one would have to have a conscience to realize that.Open borders is the goal.
Look at the guy's t-shirt:
And human decency is weak in Trumpians.TDS is strong with you.What manner of person exploits the disabled to make a political point? I remember when the boor Trump did it. Birdsmofmamfeqther, I suppose. It's shameful but one would have to have a conscience to realize that.Open borders is the goal.
Look at the guy's t-shirt:
How so, lil' snowflake?Off topic deflection.
Bullshit.It was a civil offense until Trump criminalized it so he could separate families. In any case, it does not equate to any interpretation of "open borders". In addition, you are agreeing there are not open borders and speculating that open borders is rather a goal of Democrats, not something that actually exists in the present.Did they not all rise their hands when asked whether they would make it not to crime to cross the border for foreigners as they please?
It's not a lie, it's what democrats want. What you say is a lie.
If you don't know what an open border is,
FYIBeto said he would tear down the wall. The debaters all said as much...crossing the border illegally would not be a "crime".....
dude, nice joke. what's the punch line?Open Borders is a nonsense lie. It's a misleading inaccurate misleading propaganda talking point. Supporters of Donald's lie are unable to articulate just what the heck it means in any kind of objective way.
America does not have open borders. There are many laws and rules restricting entering the USA and our detention facilities and prisons are full of people who thought America had open borders. Many immigrants have avoided legal repercussions for crossing our borders, but that is not the same as "Open Borders", whatever open borders mean.
And human decency is weak in Trumpians.TDS is strong with you.What manner of person exploits the disabled to make a political point? I remember when the boor Trump did it. Birdsmofmamfeqther, I suppose. It's shameful but one would have to have a conscience to realize that.Open borders is the goal.
Look at the guy's t-shirt:
I understand you are frustrated that an important propaganda nonsense talking point lie is being exposed in this thread. If as you claim the definition of the term open borders is so obvious, you should be able to define it.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
What is the virtue of substandard conditions? What makes it good policy?And human decency is weak in Trumpians.TDS is strong with you.What manner of person exploits the disabled to make a political point? I remember when the boor Trump did it. Birdsmofmamfeqther, I suppose. It's shameful but one would have to have a conscience to realize that.Open borders is the goal.
Look at the guy's t-shirt:
This trick again...
what post number? I didn't see it.I understand you are frustrated that an important propaganda nonsense talking point lie is being exposed in this thread. If as you claim the definition of the term open borders is so obvious, you should be able to define it.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
For me, open borders mean unrestricted legal travel across borders.
I understand you are frustrated that an important propaganda nonsense talking point lie is being exposed in this thread. If as you claim the definition of the term open borders is so obvious, you should be able to define it.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
For me, open borders mean unrestricted legal travel across borders.
You must have stopped reading in the first sentence..How would that create an open border? Obvious proving merit would require customs and immigration involvement.Julian Castro does.Correct.Open Borders is a nonsense lie. It's a misleading inaccurate misleading propaganda talking point. Supporters of Donald's lie are unable to articulate just what the heck it means in any kind of objective way.
America does not have open borders. There are many laws and rules restricting entering the USA and our detention facilities and prisons are full of people who thought America had open borders. Many immigrants have avoided legal repercussions for crossing our borders, but that is not the same as "Open Borders", whatever open borders mean.
And no one advocates for open borders.
The notion is a ridiculous rightwing lie.
Julián Castro Wants To Redefine Which Immigrants Have 'Merit'
FYIBeto said he would tear down the wall. The debaters all said as much...crossing the border illegally would not be a "crime".....
It was a Civil Offense before 2007, which is not a Criminal Offense... it was not a crime, though still illegal. It became a crime, a misdemeanor, after Immigration reform passed.
Our problems right now is with all of these Asylum Seekers from Central America, not illegal Mexicans...
We need to figure out how to help keep these people in their own Countries, instead of selling everything that they own to make the long ass, excruciating trip here, only to be denied refugee status 95% of the time when they finally make it to immigration court, separating their kids from them, and keeping these kids, at $780 a day for each one of them, at the tax payers expense, in one facility alone housing 700 children and only 4 showers, with no soap or toothpaste/ tooth brushes....
Being CRUEL is not the answer to stopping this flow...
I think one of the solutions would be to allow the Border entry points to process them instead of essentially shutting them down to refugees and forcing them to cross outside of the border, overwhelming Border Patrol Agents,
And stack the courts from here to high heaven with Immigration Judges, so anyone that is seeking asylum has his or her court date within 2 to 3 weeks, keeping them together with their kids in detention until that court date, and using the $780 a day, per child that is separated, using that money to pay for all the courts and judges to handle the over flow.
What is happening now, is a 6 month to a year wait for their court hearing... they are having to be released, and then do not show up for their Court hearings in a lot of cases.
this makes their whole arduous trip worth it to them.... that chance.
If we stacked the courts with immigration judges and their cases were heard in 1 to 3 weeks, and then turned around and sent home immediately afterwards when they fail to meet refugee status in Court.... the flow here, will end up dwindling, because the 95% chance of denial, is real, and quick, with no chance to slip under the radar!
That actually was Bush2's position, let the Mexicans and others come and go to work here on Temporary work visas.... while never becoming citizens in the USA.I understand you are frustrated that an important propaganda nonsense talking point lie is being exposed in this thread. If as you claim the definition of the term open borders is so obvious, you should be able to define it.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
For me, open borders mean unrestricted legal travel across borders.
Open border means... open border, for those with more than 60 IQ points. Perhaps a dictionary can help you?
a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily:
OPEN BORDER | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Which is the democrat position.
FYIBeto said he would tear down the wall. The debaters all said as much...crossing the border illegally would not be a "crime".....
It was a Civil Offense before 2007, which is not a Criminal Offense... it was not a crime, though still illegal. It became a crime, a misdemeanor, after Immigration reform passed.
Our problems right now is with all of these Asylum Seekers from Central America, not illegal Mexicans...
We need to figure out how to help keep these people in their own Countries, instead of selling everything that they own to make the long ass, excruciating trip here, only to be denied refugee status 95% of the time when they finally make it to immigration court, separating their kids from them, and keeping these kids, at $780 a day for each one of them, at the tax payers expense, in one facility alone housing 700 children and only 4 showers, with no soap or toothpaste/ tooth brushes....
Being CRUEL is not the answer to stopping this flow...
I think one of the solutions would be to allow the Border entry points to process them instead of essentially shutting them down to refugees and forcing them to cross outside of the border, overwhelming Border Patrol Agents,
And stack the courts from here to high heaven with Immigration Judges, so anyone that is seeking asylum has his or her court date within 2 to 3 weeks, keeping them together with their kids in detention until that court date, and using the $780 a day, per child that is separated, using that money to pay for all the courts and judges to handle the over flow.
What is happening now, is a 6 month to a year wait for their court hearing... they are having to be released, and then do not show up for their Court hearings in a lot of cases.
this makes their whole arduous trip worth it to them.... that chance.
If we stacked the courts with immigration judges and their cases were heard in 1 to 3 weeks, and then turned around and sent home immediately afterwards when they fail to meet refugee status in Court.... the flow here, will end up dwindling, because the 95% chance of denial, is real, and quick, with no chance to slip under the radar!
That actually was Bush2's position, let the Mexicans and others come and go to work here on Temporary work visas.... while never becoming citizens in the USA.I understand you are frustrated that an important propaganda nonsense talking point lie is being exposed in this thread. If as you claim the definition of the term open borders is so obvious, you should be able to define it.But you can't even define what open borders means. It's just a propaganda talking point lie you can not let go of.After the clowns presenting themselves on stage, it's not hard to see why this topic was created. The democrat position of open borders just isn't acceptable to any American. Now they try to back-pedal from (admitting) their positions, as the blindingly obvious results are in.
Why would I need to define something that is COMPLETELY OBVIOUS? If you don't know what an open border is, you need to find some new forums. This is like going to a mathematics forum and asking "but what do you mean by that addition sign" in the mids of complicated theorems. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Of course, let's be real, this is an extension of the "but define socialism" argument - a other completely idiotic failure. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Everyone knows what an open border is. You supporters of the thing especially.
For me, open borders mean unrestricted legal travel across borders.
Open border means... open border, for those with more than 60 IQ points. Perhaps a dictionary can help you?
a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily:
OPEN BORDER | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Which is the democrat position.
