Our President lies again

[Billy_Kinetta]

What law could have prevented Sandy Hook?

A law that makes it a felony to allow a lunatic access to your guns. At the very least that kid's mother should be in prison.

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

 

[edward37]

A law that makes it a felony to allow a lunatic access to your guns. At the very least that kid's mother should be in prison.

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

You aren't there yet?

And just how is Virginia "Wild West"?

 

[Auld Phart]

What law could have prevented Sandy Hook?

A law that makes it a felony to allow a lunatic access to your guns. At the very least that kid's mother should be in prison.

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot.

Link?

(I doubt the numbers are quite that high)

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order.

Most states she can.

It's only in regressive states, with an excess of gun laws, that prevent her from defending herself.

 

[edward37]

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

You aren't there yet?

And just how is Virginia "Wild West"?

Richmond. In 2012, Richmond had 42 murders, a murder rate of 20.2 per 100,000. In 2007 the FBI Uniform Crime Reports ranked Richmond as the 5th worst city for violent crimes with populations of 100,000 to 250,000.
Crime in Virginia - Wikipedia
Crime in Virginia - Wikipedia

 

[Care4all]

No, the system works just fine. Perhaps the Democrats should not have nominated a shitty candidate with more baggage than an airport.

more than half of what republicans accused her of ,and maybe more was pure BS Repub ah's feared her presidency and threw all their bs at her

it's not easy being a woman in politics...

Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Golda Meir, and quite a number of others agree with you.

it's the U.S. that obviously is behind the world on choosing Women leaders....

Agreed.

But then, we've never put up a qualified woman for the job.

nahhhh, we are just backwoods slow

 

[edward37]

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

You aren't there yet?

And just how is Virginia "Wild West"?

The Movoto Real Estate Blog has already brought you lists of the 10 safest places in each state, and now we’re looking at the other side of the coin: the most dangerous places. In this post, we’re going to take a virtual tour of Virginia’s 10 most dangerous places:



1. City of Richmond
2. City of Norfolk
3. City of Portsmouth
4. City of Roanoke
5. City of Petersburg
6. City of Fredericksburg
7. City of Hopewell
8. City of Bristol
9. City of Danville
10. City of Newport News



We’ll take a closer look at each of these 10 cities in the upcoming paragraphs, but first, here’s how we came up with this list in the first place.

Our Methodology

 

[edward37]

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

You aren't there yet?

And just how is Virginia "Wild West"?

btw billy I know Va is one of the top 5 or 10 in safety Just pulling your leg

 

[Dragonlady]

A law that makes it a felony to allow a lunatic access to your guns. At the very least that kid's mother should be in prison.

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot.

Link?

(I doubt the numbers are quite that high)

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order.

Most states she can.

It's only in regressive states, with an excess of gun laws, that prevent her from defending herself.

You're right. Children only shot someone 5 times per week, not 7, for 265 shootings in 2015.

At least 265 people were accidentally shot by kids this year

Sadly, children are shot at the rate I suggested:

1 child is killed every day from an accidental shooting in the U.S.

And even worse, the CDC is suggesting these figures are too low:

New CDC data understate accidental shooting deaths of kids

 

[Auld Phart]

He tired and convicted her.

Hard to escape the 'prison' he put her in.

She paid but unfortunately so did twenty babies.

Just as sex offender cannot be within a certain distance of a school, lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

lunatics should never have access to any kind of weapons.

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot.

Link?

(I doubt the numbers are quite that high)

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order.

Most states she can.

It's only in regressive states, with an excess of gun laws, that prevent her from defending herself.

You're right. Children only shot someone 5 times per week, not 7, for 265 shootings in 2015.

At least 265 people were accidentally shot by kids this year

Sadly, children are shot at the rate I suggested:

1 child is killed every day from an accidental shooting in the U.S.

And even worse, the CDC is suggesting these figures are too low:

New CDC data understate accidental shooting deaths of kids

2nd link
"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that 74 minors died from accidental discharges of firearms in 2014, the latest year for which comparable data are available. The AP and USA TODAY analysis counted 113 for that year, suggesting the federal government missed a third of the cases."

3rd link

"A review of shootings nationwide by The Associated Press and USA TODAY Network found that at least 141 deaths of minors were attributed to unintentional or accidental shootings in 2015 — 83% higher than what the Centers for Disease Control reported."

Makes ya wonder which is reporting facts, and which is pushing an agenda.

at the highest, neither source is 5 per week

 

[Dragonlady]

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Ah, the ignorant American. Doesn't know or care about anything going on outside his own borders. Has his head firmly up his own ass and is sniffing his gases. Hates change, and clings to the familiar, however many times it doesn't work out for him. Thinks "liberals" are his enemy and Putin is a really great leader.

Has no intellectual curiosity or emotional intelligence. Thinks that what "feels" right in his gut, is true, and is completely oblivious to the insidious nature of media manipulation or the degree to which it affects what he feels is true.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Lotsa luck, and I mean that.

But if countries that have banned firearms can't keep them out, how do you propose any law we make to be effective?

The reality is that Americans have so many guns that it isn't possible for you to get rid of them. There are also too many paranoid Americans who think they have to fear their government.

But I also think you have unrealistic expectations of what happens when guns are outlawed. I live in a country where handguns are illegal. That doesn't mean that people don't have guns here, it means that anyone who has a handgun here, other than a cop, is a criminal. If you see a gun, get down, get out, bad shit is going down.

In the US, you have honest, upright decent people openly carrying guns. How does anyone know what their intent is? If you're a stranger to me, I have no way of knowing if you're a good guy exercising your Constitutional rights, or a mental case who is just looking for the right spot for the mass shooting to begin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and lack of information and steer clear.

Every single day in America, a child accidentally shoots someone. That doesn't happen in other first world countries. Every single day in America, a child is accidentally shot. Again, that doesn't happen in first world countries.

Now, let's be realistic. If I really, really wanted a handgun, I could go to Toronto, make one phone call, and go pick up my gun. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know would be able to do the same. But then I'm a basically law-abiding person, who doesn't feel unsafe nor do I feel I need a gun for protection. I've never been attacked, threatened, or robbed (except for a break-in when we weren't home), despite living in downtown Toronto (within walking distance of the Eaton Centre), for more than 35 years.

Living next door to the US and seeing the damage that unrestricted access to guns have done to the US, Canadians have decided as a nation, we want no part of your paranoia or your killings. This attitude hasn't made us immune to the mass shooting horrors we read of weekly in the US, but the don't often happen (one every few years), and the fact that automatic handguns and high magazine rifles are also banned, has kept the body counts here lower.

It takes a exercise of collective will to keep the number of handguns low, and Americans don't have that will. Even if the law were to magically change overnight and tomorrow Americans woke up to a situation where they had to turn in their handguns, a significant percentage of your citizens would refuse to do so. Without having your honest citizens disarm themselves voluntarily, enforcement would be impossible.

There is a thread on this board that asks if a woman awaiting a restraining order against her ex should be allowed to have a handgun without a license until she gets her order. What good is a gun if you don't know how to use it? How about when someone asks for a restraining order against you, you have to turn in all your guns until the case is decided, and if you ex gets an order against you, you lose your guns.

Why are so many mass shooters not stopped by Good Guys With Guns? There were armed citizens in the Colorado movie theatre, but no one stopped the killer. When an armed citizen does get involved, how do the police know he's a good guy and not a second shooter? Why is the only solution being proposed to more mass shootings is more guns. How's that worked out for you so far?

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Better than wild west Va

You aren't there yet?

And just how is Virginia "Wild West"?

Richmond. In 2012, Richmond had 42 murders, a murder rate of 20.2 per 100,000. In 2007 the FBI Uniform Crime Reports ranked Richmond as the 5th worst city for violent crimes with populations of 100,000 to 250,000.
Crime in Virginia - Wikipedia
Crime in Virginia - Wikipedia

Run by Democrats.

 

[usmbguest5318]

It sure would have been nice if the MSM and others on the left, would have diligently exposed Obama's numerous lies as they do Trump's....apparently many Americans can't see the obvious distortion.

I suspect Obama wasn't speaking specifically with you, yet you seem, by the comment above, to know of those statements he made which you claim were lies. It stands to reason, then, that the news media did expose them, for you would not have otherwise known he made the statements you have in mind. Did you read one of his books? Perhaps that where the statements appear?

 

[Siete]

Don Cheeto isnt in a board room playing boss, and telling a captive audience what he thinks they need to hear and nothing else.
The art of the deal allowed him to lie, and do whatever it took, and his narcissist ass did exactly that too. He'll never change because he can't, especially after applying "the art of the deal" principles to winning the nomination then the presidency.


SUCKERS.

 

[rightwinger]

Why didn't the OP call out Obama on his lies? Interesting how a simple letter of the alphabet makes everything OK

Same old...same old
All Presidents lie


No President in history has lied to the extent Trump does. Not just on major policy issues but all aspects of his life. He lies about the size of his inaugural crowd, 5 million illegals voting, the weather, his height, his weight, the size of his penis, his education, Obama spying on him, his popularity, his wealth......

There is no topic on which Trump is honest

Oh my Obama even lied about being conceived at Selma. He knowingly lied strait to your face and you bought it. Gruber described you perfectly.

Trump was born in Jamaica

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That's fine. Stay in Canada.

Ah, the ignorant American. Doesn't know or care about anything going on outside his own borders.

To the contrary, I am well aware of the flops and foibles of those outside my borders. All the more reason to stay here.

Hates change, and clings to the familiar, however many times it doesn't work out for him.

I endorse change rooted in fact, logic and common sense, not feely politics and sad media tales.

Thinks "liberals" are his enemy and Putin is a really great leader.

Putin is an ass, as are our modern-day "liberals".

Has no intellectual curiosity or emotional intelligence.

ENFP. Four degrees, five if you include the martial arts Master rank.

Thinks that what "feels" right in his gut, is true, and is completely oblivious to the insidious nature of media manipulation or the degree to which it affects what he feels is true.

I am well aware of the effect media manipulation has on you people. Don't you worry.

 

[gipper]

It sure would have been nice if the MSM and others on the left, would have diligently exposed Obama's numerous lies as they do Trump's....apparently many Americans can't see the obvious distortion.

I suspect Obama wasn't speaking specifically with you, yet you seem, by the comment above, to know of those statements he made which you claim were lies. It stands to reason, then, that the news media did expose them, for you would not have otherwise known he made the statements you have in mind. Did you read one of his books? Perhaps that where the statements appear?

We have another WINNER! To think BO did not lie repeatedly, is to expose yourself as a complete and utter FOOL!!!

Why are you a tool of the establishment? You have nothing in common with them.

 

[gipper]

It sure would have been nice if the MSM and others on the left, would have diligently exposed Obama's numerous lies as they do Trump's.




...apparently many Americans can't see the obvious distortion.

Obama didn't really lie to the American public. Not on a daily basis like Trump. Obama is an honest, decent man, unlike the orange-faced baboon. What a sour miserable man he is - always glowering, and looking angry.

He's rich, has a beautiful, intelligent and elegant wife, has everything he has ever asked for but he' still angry, insecure and certain that everyone around him is out to get him. What a loser!

This has to be the winner of the Dumbest Post of the Day!!!

How can someone be so blind? My guess is this is what happens, when one gets all their news from CNN or MSLSD.

Vs pussy grabbing FOX ?? You'd lose

Canadians don't get FoxNews thanks to their tyrannical government. No doubt you would like silencing speech you find unacceptable.

 

[usmbguest5318]

It sure would have been nice if the MSM and others on the left, would have diligently exposed Obama's numerous lies as they do Trump's....apparently many Americans can't see the obvious distortion.

I suspect Obama wasn't speaking specifically with you, yet you seem, by the comment above, to know of those statements he made which you claim were lies. It stands to reason, then, that the news media did expose them, for you would not have otherwise known he made the statements you have in mind. Did you read one of his books? Perhaps that where the statements appear?

We have another WINNER! To think BO did not lie repeatedly, is to expose yourself as a complete and utter FOOL!!!

Why are you a tool of the establishment? You have nothing in common with them.

I am not going to dignify any of that post with a substantive reply.

 

[gipper]

It sure would have been nice if the MSM and others on the left, would have diligently exposed Obama's numerous lies as they do Trump's....apparently many Americans can't see the obvious distortion.

I suspect Obama wasn't speaking specifically with you, yet you seem, by the comment above, to know of those statements he made which you claim were lies. It stands to reason, then, that the news media did expose them, for you would not have otherwise known he made the statements you have in mind. Did you read one of his books? Perhaps that where the statements appear?

We have another WINNER! To think BO did not lie repeatedly, is to expose yourself as a complete and utter FOOL!!!

Why are you a tool of the establishment? You have nothing in common with them.

I am not going to dignify any of that post with a substantive reply.

Because you don't have one.