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I didn't say requiring voter ids would disenfranchise voters. I said it will suppress turnout among the poorest voters. It won't bar them from voting, it will just make it harder.The voter id requirement is a smart Republican political tactic. It doesn't address election fraud but it does suppress voter turnout among the poorest voters who usually vote Democrat.
Look at the list of election fraud and irregularities sited by Republicans and ask yourself which ones will be eliminated by the a voter id requirement. I think you'll find the answer is none.
BS, the liberal left makes this an issue because it is easy. Give statistics on how many people will be disenfranchised. The left doesn't care if there is actual fraud because as they say not many cases can be proved, yet many are proved. A woman voted at least 4 times and admits it. She use other people's ballots. Now I wonder how she was caught I can think of no way she could be caught unless someone ratted her out. Doesn't really matter what kind of ballot it happens. It would be so easy to vote for a dead person and who would know in the bigger precincts? With the dawn of the computer age people voting twice should be a thing of the past. Voter id may not stop all the fraud but it is a start and if the people of the states so want voter id then that is how it should be.
You're correct; voter ids won't stop most electron fraud. In fact it will stop little if any election fraud. An analysis of the 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent. An analysis showed only 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud out of 146,000,000 voters.
Not since the Jim Crow laws has their been such an obvious attempt to reduce voter turn out that would favor the opposition.
Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project
I didn't say requiring voter ids would disenfranchise voters. I said it will suppress turnout among the poorest voters. It won't bar them from voting, it will just make it harder.BS, the liberal left makes this an issue because it is easy. Give statistics on how many people will be disenfranchised. The left doesn't care if there is actual fraud because as they say not many cases can be proved, yet many are proved. A woman voted at least 4 times and admits it. She use other people's ballots. Now I wonder how she was caught I can think of no way she could be caught unless someone ratted her out. Doesn't really matter what kind of ballot it happens. It would be so easy to vote for a dead person and who would know in the bigger precincts? With the dawn of the computer age people voting twice should be a thing of the past. Voter id may not stop all the fraud but it is a start and if the people of the states so want voter id then that is how it should be.
You're correct; voter ids won't stop most electron fraud. In fact it will stop little if any election fraud. An analysis of the 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent. An analysis showed only 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud out of 146,000,000 voters.
Not since the Jim Crow laws has their been such an obvious attempt to reduce voter turn out that would favor the opposition.
Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project
How much harder is it to show id one time every two years then to use a welfare card everyday? Especially when photo id would be supplied free? According to this logic we should just deliver the food to the poor because it is too hard to get it for themselves.
You need a photo I.D. to do anything in the modern world including cashing a check, renting a home and entering a federal building but a judge thinks it's unlawful to show one to vote. At least they didn't insult Black people by claiming they would be impacted the most. Or did they?
I didn't say requiring voter ids would disenfranchise voters. I said it will suppress turnout among the poorest voters. It won't bar them from voting, it will just make it harder.BS, the liberal left makes this an issue because it is easy. Give statistics on how many people will be disenfranchised. The left doesn't care if there is actual fraud because as they say not many cases can be proved, yet many are proved. A woman voted at least 4 times and admits it. She use other people's ballots. Now I wonder how she was caught I can think of no way she could be caught unless someone ratted her out. Doesn't really matter what kind of ballot it happens. It would be so easy to vote for a dead person and who would know in the bigger precincts? With the dawn of the computer age people voting twice should be a thing of the past. Voter id may not stop all the fraud but it is a start and if the people of the states so want voter id then that is how it should be.
You're correct; voter ids won't stop most electron fraud. In fact it will stop little if any election fraud. An analysis of the 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent. An analysis showed only 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud out of 146,000,000 voters.
Not since the Jim Crow laws has their been such an obvious attempt to reduce voter turn out that would favor the opposition.
Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project
How much harder is it to show id one time every two years then to use a welfare card everyday? Especially when photo id would be supplied free? According to this logic we should just deliver the food to the poor because it is too hard to get it for themselves.
There is no Constitutional right to cash a check or rent a home, and accommodations can be made to allow someone with no ID to enter a Federal building there is a Constitutional right to vote, however, and your analogy fails accordingly.You need a photo I.D. to do anything in the modern world including cashing a check, renting a home and entering a federal building but a judge thinks it's unlawful to show one to vote. At least they didn't insult Black people by claiming they would be impacted the most. Or did they?
As I provided almost every state requires some form of voter id. Red/Blue doesn't really matter. So how something that is almost universally done is considered partisan does not make sense. The opposition certainly does seem to be by those who are partisan.
The people of Iraq stood in lines for hours under mortar attack at times to vote, THAT is difficult. Having an id is not.
You need a photo I.D. to do anything in the modern world including cashing a check, renting a home and entering a federal building but a judge thinks it's unlawful to show one to vote. At least they didn't insult Black people by claiming they would be impacted the most. Or did they?
That is the funny part. It is always the minorities, poor and homeless that those who oppose id lump together. If I were a minority I would be insulted at their condescending attitude.
How would voter ID stopped this?
You mean had it really happened, don't you?
STATEMENT OF HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY MIKE FREEMAN
Goddammit!
Every example they have showing voter fraud is fake. Every single one.
Funny how the right wingnuts are up in arms about voter fraud
When there is little or no evidence of voter fraud ,even after exhaustive and expensive investigations have been conducted
Why not just admit you don't like the people who vote differently than you and want to make it as hard as you can to have their vote count
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Funny how the leftwing zealots are up in arms about voter disenfranchisement
When there is little or no evidence of voter disenfranchisement. Why not just admit the left wing doesn't like the people who vote differently than they and want to make it as easy as they can to have vote counts by illegal voters disenfranchising legal voters ?
Funny how the right wingnuts are up in arms about voter fraud
When there is little or no evidence of voter fraud ,even after exhaustive and expensive investigations have been conducted
Why not just admit you don't like the people who vote differently than you and want to make it as hard as you can to have their vote count
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Funny how the leftwing zealots are up in arms about voter disenfranchisement
When there is little or no evidence of voter disenfranchisement. Why not just admit the left wing doesn't like the people who vote differently than they and want to make it as easy as they can to have vote counts by illegal voters disenfranchising legal voters ?
That's because they can't come up with a case where a state law requiring voter ID has been documented to have actually effected voter turn out, preventing people from actually voting. It's merely just smoke and mirrors by the left, and against voter integrity.
As I provided almost every state requires some form of voter id. Red/Blue doesn't really matter. So how something that is almost universally done is considered partisan does not make sense. The opposition certainly does seem to be by those who are partisan.
The people of Iraq stood in lines for hours under mortar attack at times to vote, THAT is difficult. Having an id is not.
The issue is partisan because republicans and conservatives for the most part are pushing for these laws absent evidence in support, this thread is evidence of that. Republicans have contrived and bought into the myth that they’re losing elections because of ‘fraud,’ unwilling or unable to accept the fact that they’re losing elections because the voters are rejecting their candidates and policies.
You need a photo I.D. to do anything in the modern world including cashing a check, renting a home and entering a federal building but a judge thinks it's unlawful to show one to vote. At least they didn't insult Black people by claiming they would be impacted the most. Or did they?
