Palestine Today

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, it is my opinion that you have a shaded impression of US Foreign Policy.

And base on our return-for-the-aid investment,

That implies economic development. Israel will not let that happen in Palestine.

(COMMENT)

✪ Well, when a student goes to school and studies, generally, good grades are the return-on-the-investment. You can put it into economic terms, if you want to convert the cost of time into money, and the improvement in earning as outcome of good grades; or a higher paying job. Similarly, the various Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security returns-on-investment are a factor of how appreciative the Arab Palestinians are in terms of the aid and assistance the US gives them. If the Arab Palestinians are not appreciative of the aid and assistance the US gives them, then of course the US will not see the Arab Palestinians render the US aid and assistance in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts that reinforce the US Foreign Policy interests and the amplification of US National Security Interests.

✪ If the Arab Palestinians see no value in the aid and assistance (A&A) the US gives them; then the return on the aid and assistance than the Arab Palestinians return on the investment (ROI) will not be judged as valuable; and thus and nothing positive to the in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts will be put forth with US Foreign Policy interests and US National Security Interests being considered.​

∴ That, lack of a positive effort on the part of the Arab Palestinians should then cancel-out any positive effort on the part of the US providing aid and assistance the Arab Palestinians.

(FORMULA for COST EFFECT AID and ASSISTANCE)
ψ What the US Receives in return must be equal to or greater than the value of US AID and ASSISTANCE.

US ROI ≥ US A&A Payout
This only makes sense.
​

In 2013, a mere 5 years ago, more than three-quarters of the Arab Palestinian Population considered America as ⇒ more of an "enemy" than a partner in the Middle East.

The US has chosen to make itself the enemy of the Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

If the Arab Palestinians were a credible threat and actually considered the Government of the the United States an Enemy of the Palestinian State, they would already be under US Occupation; they would not have to worry about the Israelis. The US Mediterranean Fleet would be anchored just outside of Palestinian guns range.

If the Arab Palestinians consider the US to be an enemy, then the US should not be rendering assistance to any such an opponent. That would be a from of "Treason."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
​

This is just another example of where the Arab Palestinians have lost touch with reality. They can say ridiculous crap like that, and get away with that; but they would never put that in official Diplomatic Note (formal written communication between the countries).

Most Respectfully,
R

I was going to respond to your post but you are so full of shit I don't know where to start.

 

[Taz]

Looks like a dump. Do they have anything nice in Arab Palestine?

The American International School in Gaza

I said something nice, not bombed out.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You can't have your cake and eat it (too). There comes a time when the Arab Palestinians must stand and face the consequences.

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, it is my opinion that you have a shaded impression of US Foreign Policy.

And base on our return-for-the-aid investment,

That implies economic development. Israel will not let that happen in Palestine.

(COMMENT)

✪ Well, when a student goes to school and studies, generally, good grades are the return-on-the-investment. You can put it into economic terms, if you want to convert the cost of time into money, and the improvement in earning as outcome of good grades; or a higher paying job. Similarly, the various Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security returns-on-investment are a factor of how appreciative the Arab Palestinians are in terms of the aid and assistance the US gives them. If the Arab Palestinians are not appreciative of the aid and assistance the US gives them, then of course the US will not see the Arab Palestinians render the US aid and assistance in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts that reinforce the US Foreign Policy interests and the amplification of US National Security Interests.

✪ If the Arab Palestinians see no value in the aid and assistance (A&A) the US gives them; then the return on the aid and assistance than the Arab Palestinians return on the investment (ROI) will not be judged as valuable; and thus and nothing positive to the in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts will be put forth with US Foreign Policy interests and US National Security Interests being considered.​

∴ That, lack of a positive effort on the part of the Arab Palestinians should then cancel-out any positive effort on the part of the US providing aid and assistance the Arab Palestinians.

(FORMULA for COST EFFECT AID and ASSISTANCE)
ψ What the US Receives in return must be equal to or greater than the value of US AID and ASSISTANCE.

US ROI ≥ US A&A Payout
This only makes sense.
​

In 2013, a mere 5 years ago, more than three-quarters of the Arab Palestinian Population considered America as ⇒ more of an "enemy" than a partner in the Middle East.

The US has chosen to make itself the enemy of the Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

If the Arab Palestinians were a credible threat and actually considered the Government of the the United States an Enemy of the Palestinian State, they would already be under US Occupation; they would not have to worry about the Israelis. The US Mediterranean Fleet would be anchored just outside of Palestinian guns range.

If the Arab Palestinians consider the US to be an enemy, then the US should not be rendering assistance to any such an opponent. That would be a from of "Treason."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
​

This is just another example of where the Arab Palestinians have lost touch with reality. They can say ridiculous crap like that, and get away with that; but they would never put that in official Diplomatic Note (formal written communication between the countries).

Most Respectfully,
R

I was going to respond to your post but you are so full of shit I don't know where to start.

(COMMENT)

I know that many pro-Arab Palestinians believe that the US has some legal or moral obligation to assist in the maintenance of the Arab Palestinian "until such time as they are able to stand alone;" Article 22(4). But no such obligation exists when a party (Arab Palestinians) is intentionally unwilling = or ⇒ exhibits behavior suggesting that they are unwilling to perform enter into some form of a good faith dialogue between the two people (Arab Palestinian Israeli) intended to reach a beneficial outcome.

Three attempts were made (1923) to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. Which, as it happens, was the same goal then 95 yeas ago, as it is today: "to establish a self-government in Palestine." Again, Article 22 concepts. And that attitude persisted through February 1948 when the UN Palestine Commission invited the Arab Higher Committee to assist in the implementation of the Steps Preparatory to Independence. And Again, the Arab Palestinians rejected an opportunity then, that would have given them a much better position then they have at present.

Between 1949 (all Armistice Agreements in place) and 1967, the Arab Palestinians consistently chose an alternative solutions that had the consequence of placing them in an ever shrinking position.

There are may points we could discuss here, but the fact of the matter is that the Arab Palestinian, with the exception of the Oslo Accords, consistently chose to opt for conflict.

It is clear that the "Palestinian Authority would agree to an extension of negotiations if Israel agreed to:

• Announce the basis on which future talks will be held;
  
• Draw the outline of the borders of a Palestinian state within the next three months;
  
• Halt settlement construction;
  
• Withdraw Israeli troops from the West Bank’s Area C to the lines held before the Second Intifada;
  
• Release the fourth wave of prisoners that it has until now refused to set free;
  
• End what he called “disruptions” in Jerusalem, and open Palestinian institutions in the city."

No significant progress towards peace has been made snce the turn of the century. In fact, all that has come out of Rahmallah has been either anti-American or anti-Israel sentiments. Why should the people of a failed state that supports terrorist organizations, initiatives and goals.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Looks like a dump. Do they have anything nice in Arab Palestine?

The American International School in Gaza

I said something nice, not bombed out.

Everything in Palestine has been bombed, bulldozed, or stolen.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Three attempts were made (1923) to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government.

And every time it was required to buy into Israel's settler colonial project. Even the fake peace talks of today are in that framework.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Ahed Tamimi Protest 1-30-2018 NYC

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You can't have your cake and eat it (too). There comes a time when the Arab Palestinians must stand and face the consequences.

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, it is my opinion that you have a shaded impression of US Foreign Policy.

And base on our return-for-the-aid investment,

That implies economic development. Israel will not let that happen in Palestine.

(COMMENT)

✪ Well, when a student goes to school and studies, generally, good grades are the return-on-the-investment. You can put it into economic terms, if you want to convert the cost of time into money, and the improvement in earning as outcome of good grades; or a higher paying job. Similarly, the various Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security returns-on-investment are a factor of how appreciative the Arab Palestinians are in terms of the aid and assistance the US gives them. If the Arab Palestinians are not appreciative of the aid and assistance the US gives them, then of course the US will not see the Arab Palestinians render the US aid and assistance in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts that reinforce the US Foreign Policy interests and the amplification of US National Security Interests.

✪ If the Arab Palestinians see no value in the aid and assistance (A&A) the US gives them; then the return on the aid and assistance than the Arab Palestinians return on the investment (ROI) will not be judged as valuable; and thus and nothing positive to the in terms of Diplomatic, Intelligence and Security efforts will be put forth with US Foreign Policy interests and US National Security Interests being considered.​

∴ That, lack of a positive effort on the part of the Arab Palestinians should then cancel-out any positive effort on the part of the US providing aid and assistance the Arab Palestinians.

(FORMULA for COST EFFECT AID and ASSISTANCE)
ψ What the US Receives in return must be equal to or greater than the value of US AID and ASSISTANCE.

US ROI ≥ US A&A Payout
This only makes sense.
​

In 2013, a mere 5 years ago, more than three-quarters of the Arab Palestinian Population considered America as ⇒ more of an "enemy" than a partner in the Middle East.

The US has chosen to make itself the enemy of the Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

If the Arab Palestinians were a credible threat and actually considered the Government of the the United States an Enemy of the Palestinian State, they would already be under US Occupation; they would not have to worry about the Israelis. The US Mediterranean Fleet would be anchored just outside of Palestinian guns range.

If the Arab Palestinians consider the US to be an enemy, then the US should not be rendering assistance to any such an opponent. That would be a from of "Treason."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
​

This is just another example of where the Arab Palestinians have lost touch with reality. They can say ridiculous crap like that, and get away with that; but they would never put that in official Diplomatic Note (formal written communication between the countries).

Most Respectfully,
R

I was going to respond to your post but you are so full of shit I don't know where to start.

(COMMENT)

I know that many pro-Arab Palestinians believe that the US has some legal or moral obligation to assist in the maintenance of the Arab Palestinian "until such time as they are able to stand alone;" Article 22(4). But no such obligation exists when a party (Arab Palestinians) is intentionally unwilling = or ⇒ exhibits behavior suggesting that they are unwilling to perform enter into some form of a good faith dialogue between the two people (Arab Palestinian Israeli) intended to reach a beneficial outcome.

Three attempts were made (1923) to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. Which, as it happens, was the same goal then 95 yeas ago, as it is today: "to establish a self-government in Palestine." Again, Article 22 concepts. And that attitude persisted through February 1948 when the UN Palestine Commission invited the Arab Higher Committee to assist in the implementation of the Steps Preparatory to Independence. And Again, the Arab Palestinians rejected an opportunity then, that would have given them a much better position then they have at present.

Between 1949 (all Armistice Agreements in place) and 1967, the Arab Palestinians consistently chose an alternative solutions that had the consequence of placing them in an ever shrinking position.

There are may points we could discuss here, but the fact of the matter is that the Arab Palestinian, with the exception of the Oslo Accords, consistently chose to opt for conflict.

It is clear that the "Palestinian Authority would agree to an extension of negotiations if Israel agreed to:

• Announce the basis on which future talks will be held;
  
• Draw the outline of the borders of a Palestinian state within the next three months;
  
• Halt settlement construction;
  
• Withdraw Israeli troops from the West Bank’s Area C to the lines held before the Second Intifada;
  
• Release the fourth wave of prisoners that it has until now refused to set free;
  
• End what he called “disruptions” in Jerusalem, and open Palestinian institutions in the city."

No significant progress towards peace has been made snce the turn of the century. In fact, all that has come out of Rahmallah has been either anti-American or anti-Israel sentiments. Why should the people of a failed state that supports terrorist organizations, initiatives and goals.

Most Respectfully,
R

You sound like a government employee. You people think funny like that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ahed Tamimi - Racism - Genocide - CHILD ABUSE

 

[P F Tinmore]

Worldwide actions commemorate Ahed Tamimi’s 17th birthday, demand freedom: Reports and photos

Ahed, 17, was seized by occupation forces in a pre-dawn raid on her family’s home in the Palestinian village of Nabi Saleh, near Ramallah, where she and her family are leaders in the anti-colonial indigenous land defense and resistance movement. The village’s land and even its spring have been confiscated by the illegal colonial settlement of Halamish and the village is regularly subject to invasions, raids and arrests. Ahed’s mother, Nariman, a strong activist in her own right, was arrested by occupation forces later the same day.

Worldwide actions commemorate Ahed Tamimi’s 17th birthday, demand freedom: Reports and photos

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jewish Teens Protested in Support of Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi
"We want to send a message to Ahed that we are with her."

Brittney McNamaraFeb 1, 2018 11:05AM EST

Jewish Teens Protested to Support Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi on Her 17th Birthday

 

[P F Tinmore]

Manal Tamimi shares the experience of her most recent arrest by the Israeli army. Manal was arrested during a protest in front of the Ofer military compound, where the trial of her kinswomen Nariman and her 16 year old daughter Ahed Tamimi was taking place. Manal describes the brutality of the soldiers and deliberate humiliation, as well as the routine endured by Palestinian female political prisoners in jail and between prison and the court.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[Hollie]

 

[Hollie]

 

[Taz]

Looks like a dump. Do they have anything nice in Arab Palestine?

The American International School in Gaza

I said something nice, not bombed out.

Everything in Palestine has been bombed, bulldozed, or stolen.

So do you think that it might be about time for them to admit that they're beaten?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ha Ha Ha, Fox News and the Lawfare Project are both Israeli propaganda organizations.