Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

Dumbfuck, the law also says...

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes-
(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office


[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

Contributions include those made by the candidate and “must be reported”...

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

What cracks me up the most is what sycophants you rightards are. This isn’t that big of a deal. If he’s found guilty of violating campaign finance laws, he’s facing a fine. It happens all the time. Y’all are circling the wagon over something as trivial as this does nothing other than to expose what cock holsters you are for him.


Poor little retard, it wasn't a valid campaign expense, that's why campaign funds weren't used. Of course you're free to pretend otherwise in your little retard world. It doesn't make it so. LMAO

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You dumbfuck, it matters not if campaign funds were used or not. Paying off Stormy to not talk about having an affair was a benefit to his campaign and intended to influence the election. That exposes those funds to be reported to the FEC.


Not if there was a dual purpose, like protecting his family. That would make it an illegitimate campaign expense. So run along retard, I think the short bus is waiting for ya. LMAO

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If that were true, you’d post the supporting law.


I dare you to try to find an applicable case in the FEC decisions database, it's got to be the worse site I've every tried to find anything on. So I chose to take the word of a former FEC chairman. I think he knows more about it than some regressive retard.

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I don't have to do shit. You claimed Trump is shielded from being in violation because he campaign finance was "dual purpose" and that "dual purpose" is exempt. Until you prove that by posting supporting law, you remain the :laugh2: forum jester :laugh2: to be mocked, not debated.
 
But but Bill...


That is all they have. An army of rabid squirrels and rotting red herrings trying to distract from their overflowing swamp,
Ok...let me ask the obvious question....Does anyone honestly expect trumpanzees to wake up and admit to the disaster they bought into? Most of them will go down with the Trump ship, denying and crying victim alllllllllllll the way.
Sorry, turd, but the hysterical leftwing desire to destroy Trump doesn't make him a disaster. In fact, it demonstrates that he's doing exactly what we wanted him to do.
 
It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

That’s where the argument lies. It has not been established it was a violation yet or not. I’ve basically heard some people say it is and others say it isn’t
That’s where the argument lies. It has not been established it was a violation yet or not. I’ve basically heard some people say it is and others say it isn’t

There is no argument. Only desperate narratives.

It has been established. The man who made the payment has plead guilty to doing so.

Do you imagine that Cohen, his lawyers, the prosecutors and the judge are all just mistaken?
His guilty plea doesn't "establish" a fucking thing, moron except that Mueller managed to extort him into pleading guilty.
 
Yes he can... because the women were paid off using an LLC, and Trump is on tape discussing the payoff doing it. He conspired with Cohen to break campaign finance laws.


Fuck this shit, post the transcripts of the tapes or STFU. Trump got a personal benefit from the NDA's, legally only things that benefit the campaign and nothing else can be financed with campaign funds, there cannot be a dual purpose like a personal or commercial benefit.

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Only someone retarded beyond all repair would be able to fool themselves into believing silencing women just before an election and alleging affairs with Trump as his new bride birthed their child; was neither of any benefit to the campaign nor even an attempt to benefit the campaign.


The law says, if there is a personal benefit, you can't use campaign funds to pay the bill, even if there is a tangential benefit to the campaign. Campaign funds have to be used EXCLUSIVELY for the campaign, no dual purpose campaign expenses are allowed.

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Dumbfuck, the law also says...

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes-
(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office


[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

Contributions include those made by the candidate and “must be reported”...

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

What cracks me up the most is what sycophants you rightards are. This isn’t that big of a deal. If he’s found guilty of violating campaign finance laws, he’s facing a fine. It happens all the time. Y’all are circling the wagon over something as trivial as this does nothing other than to expose what cock holsters you are for him.
The 2nd Amendment says the right to bare arms shall not be abridged. So that means we have the right to own machine guns. Right, dumbfuck?
Your deflection is noted and laughed at..

"anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office" is a contribution to a campaign and must be reported.
 
But but Bill...


That is all they have. An army of rabid squirrels and rotting red herrings trying to distract from their overflowing swamp,
Ok...let me ask the obvious question....Does anyone honestly expect trumpanzees to wake up and admit to the disaster they bought into? Most of them will go down with the Trump ship, denying and crying victim alllllllllllll the way.


God forbid we would expect that winning an election would get our interests finally represented in government policy.


How silly of US not to realize that scum like you would gin up some excuse to shut down democracy, when you didn't win.


Those who make peaceful revolution impossible....
If you're going to run a presidential campaign, you ought to know what the finance rules are. Trump and Cohen violated them. Maybe they weren't aware, being newcomers to the neighborhood, that their scummy behavior wasn't allowed with campaign funds. Or maybe they were, because why else would Cohen go to so much trouble to hide it?
Dunno.
Pure unadulterated idiocy. Trump violated nothing.
 
Fuck this shit, post the transcripts of the tapes or STFU. Trump got a personal benefit from the NDA's, legally only things that benefit the campaign and nothing else can be financed with campaign funds, there cannot be a dual purpose like a personal or commercial benefit.

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Only someone retarded beyond all repair would be able to fool themselves into believing silencing women just before an election and alleging affairs with Trump as his new bride birthed their child; was neither of any benefit to the campaign nor even an attempt to benefit the campaign.


The law says, if there is a personal benefit, you can't use campaign funds to pay the bill, even if there is a tangential benefit to the campaign. Campaign funds have to be used EXCLUSIVELY for the campaign, no dual purpose campaign expenses are allowed.

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Dumbfuck, the law also says...

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes-
(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office


[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

Contributions include those made by the candidate and “must be reported”...

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

What cracks me up the most is what sycophants you rightards are. This isn’t that big of a deal. If he’s found guilty of violating campaign finance laws, he’s facing a fine. It happens all the time. Y’all are circling the wagon over something as trivial as this does nothing other than to expose what cock holsters you are for him.
The 2nd Amendment says the right to bare arms shall not be abridged. So that means we have the right to own machine guns. Right, dumbfuck?
Your deflection is noted and laughed at..

"anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office" is a contribution to a campaign and must be reported.
So you agree that the Constitution protects your right to own a machine gun. Thanks for showing what a fucking dumbass you are.
 
I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid
Hilly paid Steele money via GPS to write the false doc to jab it to Trump, her "friends" at the DOJ took it to a FISA court and claimed it was the truth to which all of this stuff started.
 
Only someone retarded beyond all repair would be able to fool themselves into believing silencing women just before an election and alleging affairs with Trump as his new bride birthed their child; was neither of any benefit to the campaign nor even an attempt to benefit the campaign.


The law says, if there is a personal benefit, you can't use campaign funds to pay the bill, even if there is a tangential benefit to the campaign. Campaign funds have to be used EXCLUSIVELY for the campaign, no dual purpose campaign expenses are allowed.

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Dumbfuck, the law also says...

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes-
(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office


[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

Contributions include those made by the candidate and “must be reported”...

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

What cracks me up the most is what sycophants you rightards are. This isn’t that big of a deal. If he’s found guilty of violating campaign finance laws, he’s facing a fine. It happens all the time. Y’all are circling the wagon over something as trivial as this does nothing other than to expose what cock holsters you are for him.
The 2nd Amendment says the right to bare arms shall not be abridged. So that means we have the right to own machine guns. Right, dumbfuck?
Your deflection is noted and laughed at..

"anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office" is a contribution to a campaign and must be reported.
So you agree that the Constitution protects your right to own a machine gun. Thanks for showing what a fucking dumbass you are.
The two have nothing to do with each other, ya fucking moron.

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I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid
Hilly paid Steele money via GPS to write the false doc to jab it to Trump, her "friends" at the DOJ took it to a FISA court and claimed it was the truth to which all of this stuff started.
Great, finally someone can prove Hillary knew Fusion GPS was going to hire Steele.

Great, let's see you're evidence of that...…?
 
It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

That’s where the argument lies. It has not been established it was a violation yet or not. I’ve basically heard some people say it is and others say it isn’t
Well Bro lets say you were dating KAT and Kat was going to blow the whistle on you and everyone agreed that for 30 dollars she would forget the whole thing. No law broken, unless she wanted and suggested the money, and the whole incident would must die off with time. No laws broken. Its called pay and play
 
Look on the bright side, the left thought they finally got Trump and now their heads are exploding. :auiqs.jpg:
It's like Christmas...…..every fucking day.....God I love Donald J Trump...….he is not only owning the libs, he's teabagging them and shitting on their faces
 
I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
It’s not ok when it’s a violation of election law

If Hillary did this you’d be in melt down

Now be quiet. You sound stupid
No it's not....John Edwards already proved this wrong......do you guys not remember anything?
 
Its not a violation, legal experts and even the former head of the Federal Election Commission say so. Tissue? lmao!
the federal election commission SAID it WAS a crime, and that is why Cohen was able to be charged with a crime for it by the prosecutors....
This was a witch hunt..........I've posted examples of similar circumstances........many Dems.........OMFG.........slap on the wrist........

Double standards and an Investigation in search of a crime.........nothing to do with Russia.............

A good while ago you said the cleaners would go in and find ONLY THINGS RELATED TO THE CASE.........RUSSIA........

They didn't now did they ...............I laughed at you then and I'm laughing at you now.
it's true it is not part of the Russia investigation, but that matters naught..... that is why it is in the Southern district of new york and not with the Mueller team.... these crimes have mostly to do with the taxi business of Cohen's and his taxi business partner, who was arrested by NY State and ratted on Cohen for his tax evasion and crimes.... in a plea bargain...

Cohen, via Lanny Davis released a tape he had of trump and him conspiring to pay the National Enquirer guy for the Karen McDougal $150k to silence her and prevent her story from being published, a ''catch and kill'', so that Trump could own the contract between AMI (Parent company of National Enquirer) in case their buddy over there at AMI got hit by a car or died in-expectantly, is what trump said on the tape we all heard.... He wanted to own the rights to it.

The prosecutors in the Southern District never got a copy of that phone recording because the special judicial magistrate said that could be attorney client privileged stuff.... but after the tape was released by Cohen, the southern district of new york got their hands on it, and then after investigating and determining a crime was committed, added the crimes to his other 5 charges involving his taxi medallion business.
Only juries determine whether a crime was committed, not prosecutors.

Charges were filed, cohen plead guilty. Done.
It has no effect on Trump, moron.
 
Its not a violation, legal experts and even the former head of the Federal Election Commission say so. Tissue? lmao!
the federal election commission SAID it WAS a crime, and that is why Cohen was able to be charged with a crime for it by the prosecutors....
This was a witch hunt..........I've posted examples of similar circumstances........many Dems.........OMFG.........slap on the wrist........

Double standards and an Investigation in search of a crime.........nothing to do with Russia.............

A good while ago you said the cleaners would go in and find ONLY THINGS RELATED TO THE CASE.........RUSSIA........

They didn't now did they ...............I laughed at you then and I'm laughing at you now.
it's true it is not part of the Russia investigation, but that matters naught..... that is why it is in the Southern district of new york and not with the Mueller team.... these crimes have mostly to do with the taxi business of Cohen's and his taxi business partner, who was arrested by NY State and ratted on Cohen for his tax evasion and crimes.... in a plea bargain...

Cohen, via Lanny Davis released a tape he had of trump and him conspiring to pay the National Enquirer guy for the Karen McDougal $150k to silence her and prevent her story from being published, a ''catch and kill'', so that Trump could own the contract between AMI (Parent company of National Enquirer) in case their buddy over there at AMI got hit by a car or died in-expectantly, is what trump said on the tape we all heard.... He wanted to own the rights to it.

The prosecutors in the Southern District never got a copy of that phone recording because the special judicial magistrate said that could be attorney client privileged stuff.... but after the tape was released by Cohen, the southern district of new york got their hands on it, and then after investigating and determining a crime was committed, added the crimes to his other 5 charges involving his taxi medallion business.
Only juries determine whether a crime was committed, not prosecutors.


Whether by jury or plea, guilty is guilty, dope.
Cohen can plead guilty only for himself, not for Trump, you fucking moron.
 
I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
Not when it’s intended to influence the outcome of an election, as was Trump’s intent.

That you and others on the right continue to defend Trump in spite of the facts and evidence is further proof of how blind partisan and reprehensible most conservatives are.
The former chairman of the FEC said it's not a campaign donation, dumbass.

The former chairman of the FEC said it's not a campaign donation, dumbass.

Yes, retard. That is far better evidence than an actual admission of guilt.:cuckoo:

This thread is probably the largest collection of demented RW retards that this board has ever seen.
Cohen's "admission of guilt" is evidence of nothing. You're too fucking stupid to understand that. Mueller knows the country is infested with dumb fucking morons like you who are too stupid to know it. That's why he force Cohen to plead to that.
 
It is not a campaign violation. You will never see any charges filed against Trump for this action. It is absurd. Trump is in the clear on this one. He might have a slew of other problems, but paying off a porn star isn't one of them.

Michael Cohen plead guilty to a FELONY campaign law violation... which Trump is on tape with him making the arrangements for the payments. That's conspiracy.

conspiracy
A plea deal is not proof of anything, moron. It's a deliberate attempt by Mueller to do an end around proof.

A plea deal is not proof of anything, moron. It's a deliberate attempt by Mueller to do an end around proof.

A guilty plea is an admission of guilt.
There is no greater proof than an admission of guilt, retard.
It's actually proof of nothing. You would know that if you weren't such a fucking moron.
 
It is not a campaign violation. You will never see any charges filed against Trump for this action. It is absurd. Trump is in the clear on this one. He might have a slew of other problems, but paying off a porn star isn't one of them.

Michael Cohen plead guilty to a FELONY campaign law violation... which Trump is on tape with him making the arrangements for the payments. That's conspiracy.

conspiracy
A plea deal is not proof of anything, moron. It's a deliberate attempt by Mueller to do an end around proof.


a plea deal can not be used in court

they are never adjudicated

a plea deal can not be used in court

they are never adjudicated

Facepalm.

They are adjudicated, dope. When a judge asks you, " how do you plead?" After reading the charges , the defendent answers and the judge signs off. Done.

Otherwise, what's the point of pleading before a judge?
The point is to avoid spending the rest of your life in prison. People will plead to anything to avoid that. Only profound morons think a plea has anything to do with the actual evidence.
 
I'm still waiting for one of the Prog Loons to 'SPLAIN how a plea agreement which is not part of case law turns into a legal precedent.
 
I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
Obama paid $2 million to have his college transcripts and all of his records sealed.
Isn't that influencing an election?????

Link please.
Wayne Dupree on Twitter

Obama's 'Sealed' Records - FactCheck.org
Sorry, but they have been trying to get his college transcripts unsealed for years...FACTCHECK.ORG..not withstanding...the Annenberg project run by William Ayres who helped get Obama started in politics.

Summary: Both of the nation’s most prominent fact-checking organizations—FactCheck.org and PolitiFact—tilt to the political left, which makes them representative of the majority of journalists who also lean to port. Both of these groups go far beyond what they say they do, claiming to fact-check subjective things like political rhetoric that are not susceptible to fact-checking. DISHONEST FACT-CHECKERS: How fact-checkers trivialize lies by politicians and undermine truth-seeking

Oh well, that’s convenient. Don’t like the truth, dismiss the source.

Dumbass, you can’t get ANYONES college records. They are protected under FERPA.

Why do you want the first African American president to be the only one ever to have to show them? Every candidate since Nixon showed their tax returns, none have been required to show their college transcripts.
 
I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...
It's unethical, secretive, deceptive, and not the example an American president should be showing the world.

It may be legal but it's unethical behavior that should be beneath an American president, shame on him
 
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