Per the 14th Amendment,

[konradv]

I've asked this question before, but didn't get an answer. BTW, I can't find one instance of any of the rioters in the capital being charged and found guilty of that actual charge of "insurrection." I've seen numerous ones that skirted "insurrection." But not one with that charge and guilty verdict containing that word.

If there is one, then an insurrection has been committed, according to a jury and judge. And in all probability, Trump will be found guilty of inciting it. And will not be qualified to be the POTUS. Even if he wins the election.
And it could do down this way. Trump wins the election, but before taking office, the election is thrown out because the winner doesn't qualify. The same way it would happen if say Edward Snowden where to get the winning amount of electoral votes. He still doesn't qualify to be president. He'd qualify to run. But he could never be sworn in.

The big "oh shit" moment after Trump wins the election, when his supporters realized they put all their efforts into someone who doesn't even qualify, per the US constitution.

On the flip side, IF no guilty verdict of insurrection has been made, then according to the law, there really was no insurrection. Trump wins the election and takes office. And there's nothing the democrats can do about it.

Why is the word important? We all saw what happened and what some of them had planned. If that isn’t an insurrection, I don’t know what is.

 

[OKTexas]

Then why even comment?

Out of all the people the jurors found guilty, was any of them found guilty of the actual charge of "insurrection?"

It wouldn't matter if they were. Trump isn't even charged with the incitement of an insurrection, much less engaging in one.

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[OKTexas]

In order for there to be a serious insurrection you need F15s. I heard it from Biden's own lips.

You forgot nuclear weapons.

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[Care4all]

Yes, but it's still not insurrection. IIRC, "sedition" doesn't disqualify anyone to hold public office.
The word sedition isn't mentioned.

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

Trump didn't engage in the 1/6 riot, so he's not guilty of "rebellion." And since no one has been charged or found guilty of "insurrection," he's not guilty of inciting one.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order.

 

[OKTexas]

There were several found guilty of sedition… isn’t that synonymous with insurrection?

Nope.

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[OKTexas]

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order.

And exactly how does that fit with "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."? You commies want to act like Trump never spoke those words, but he did.

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[Care4all]

There are exactly ZERO videos of Trump protesting or rioting. You folks are so full of shit with your lame attempts to link Trump to anything outside his public request for a peaceful demonstration. Only through rank corruption and judicial activism have these 'cases' even made it this far.

It doesn't matter....



engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies.....



or rebellion or giving aid or even comfort to the enemy

broadens the scope.

 

[Care4all]

There were several found guilty of sedition… isn’t that synonymous with insurrection?

Yes it is.

 

[candycorn]

You can have a six month Negro insurrection and the police will stand down and you can riot, kill and loot to your heart's content. No worries whatsoever about the Feds.

However, if you protest against the goddamn Democrats stealing the election then the filthy government will either kill you or throw you into prison.

That is the way things work in the Banana Republic of America.

Wow, that must be frustrating.

 

[candycorn]

And exactly how does that fit with "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."? You commies want to act like Trump never spoke those words, but he did.

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He also told the proud boys to "stand by". Some what to act like Trump never told them to stand by.

Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A jury in the District of Columbia today returned guilty verdicts on multiple felonies against five members of the Proud Boys, finding four of the defendants guilty of seditious conspiracy for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.justice.gov

Proud Boys' Tarrio guilty of Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy

Enrique Tarrio and three other members of the far-right extremist group have been convicted of a plot to attack the U.S. Capitol after Trump lost the 2020 presidential election.

apnews.com

 

[Care4all]

And exactly how does that fit with "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."? You commies want to act like Trump never spoke those words, but he did.

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Its a meaningless 5 second, statement out if a firey 4200 second speech....a CYA and it didn't register....

And he only said he knew they were going to peacefully and patriotically march down to the capitol.... He did not ASK them to.....

 

[Cellblock2429]

How many threads on the exact same subject must we suffer

There was no insurrection you fucking idiot!

/——-/ democRATs are in desperation mode. They grasp at any straw.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I’ve never been to a peaceful assembly that resulted in loads of vandalism, have you?

Vandalism does not equal insurrection.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Its a meaningless 5 second, statement out if a firey 4200 second speech....a CYA and it didn't register....

And he only said he knew they were going to peacefully and patriotically march down to the capitol.... He did not ASK them to.....

You hang onto that.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Why is the word important? We all saw what happened and what some of them had planned. If that isn’t an insurrection, I don’t know what is.

Selfie stick insurrection. Scary!

 

[Care4all]

You hang onto that.

Actually, it appears to be you Trumpers hanging on to that comment, for dear life! And spurting it out whenever you can.... Thinking it will SAVE your orange lord savior from imprisonment or something....?

 

[Care4all]

Vandalism does not equal insurrection.

Most of those breaking in to the capitol were simply trespassers, or even looters, or vandals and did not know the criminal trump enterprise's plan, they were unwitting participants...the proud boys did, and others like oath keepers did and were charged with the seditious conspiracy and convicted by a jury of 12 in trial.

 

[YoursTruly]

Actually, it appears to be you Trumpers hanging on to that comment, for dear life! And spurting it out whenever you can.... Thinking it will SAVE your orange lord savior from imprisonment or something....?

Since he did say it, it may save him. IIRC, there were a few instances of him calling for peace. Politicians have used the word "fight" for a long time. And it's never meant anything until now. When morons thought they were actually going to accomplish something.

The key thing to do in any court, with a jury, is to "convince" the jury. That's it. The best salesman (attorney) wins.

 

[Lesh]

Yes, but it's still not insurrection. IIRC, "sedition" doesn't disqualify anyone to hold public office.
The word sedition isn't mentioned.

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

Trump didn't engage in the 1/6 riot, so he's not guilty of "rebellion." And since no one has been charged or found guilty of "insurrection," he's not guilty of inciting one.

Insurrection or rebellion…

Seditious conspiracy encompasses both

 

[22lcidw]

Why is the word important? We all saw what happened and what some of them had planned. If that isn’t an insurrection, I don’t know what is.

Prog voters are foolish. They are headlining our entry into world government and enslavement. You see the signs and ignore them. A percentage of Republicans are into this also. Social agendas are used to mask the growing authoritarian darkness over the land.