Planned Parenthood caught trafficking in human body parts

[sakinago]

Read my sig...You leftist think that since your intentions are good, all those government programs you listed and many many more are the only solutions. We waste more money creating and funding the bureaucracy than actually helping anyone. You leftists are something. You create all these government programs, which costs tons of money, Then you want to slaughter those who you are going to need, to pay for it...

Hey, if you want to cut governmetn spending, the hundreds of billions we spend propping up the Zionist Entity would be a great place to start...

Are those government programs the "only" solutions? No. Do they work? Yes. Have other countries, including Israel, made the welfare state work? Yup.

It's funny you want the American Taxpayer to pay for Socialism in Israel but no America.

How long do those countries last? I can give you a capitalist country (not crony capitalism like we have) that has been around for 500 years, has been at the top 3 of almost every category you can think of (despite having practically no natural resources); wealth, standard of living, overall happiness of citizens, education. Which is weird since they're pretty poo poo against socialist policies. Also have some of the lowest crime rates, which is also weird because their gun laws are you are issued an assault rifle as a citizen. That country is Switzerland.

 

[Jroc]

Read my sig...You leftist think that since your intentions are good, all those government programs you listed and many many more are the only solutions. We waste more money creating and funding the bureaucracy than actually helping anyone. You leftists are something. You create all these government programs, which costs tons of money, Then you want to slaughter those who you are going to need, to pay for it...

Hey, if you want to cut governmetn spending, the hundreds of billions we spend propping up the Zionist Entity would be a great place to start...

Are those government programs the "only" solutions? No. Do they work? Yes. Have other countries, including Israel, made the welfare state work? Yup.

It's funny you want the American Taxpayer to pay for Socialism in Israel but no America.

Chump change Jew hater.

 

[BlueGin]

And regarding poor black ppl, remember it's the left who pays them not to work and who pays them to have children
...while taking their money to kill those same children. It's a nice racket.

True

False. It's conservatives who refuse to raise the minimum wage. It's conservatives who vote against maternity leave, and job guaranties. It's conservatives who oppose single payer health insurance, family leave, subsidized daycare and other real time benefits which would help poor working families. And it's conservatives who recently cut SNAP benefits, most of which go to families with children.

They already have daycare aid programs, maternity leave, FMLA, Medicaid,WIC, CHIP, SNAP. And it's pretty common knowledge that the case workers teach people how to fudge the system for more money when they no longer qualify. There are PLENTY of programs. Don't need more.

 

[Lakhota]

Planned Parenthood: More Sting Videos Are Coming

WASHINGTON -- An attorney for Planned Parenthood warned Congress on Monday that he expects the Center for Medical Progress, an undercover anti-abortion group, to release more sting videos that claim the family planning provider is engaged in illegal and racially biased activities.

Planned Parenthood sometimes donates, but does not sell, fetal tissue for scientific research at the request of its patients, the family planning provider's attorney, Roger Evans, told the committee in a letter on Monday. He also said the CMP posed as a fetal tissue procurement company called Biomax in order to gain access to Planned Parenthood doctors and facilities, and likely has "thousands of hours of videotape" that it will "deceptively edit into short video clips to release for many months."

The CMP was founded by David Daleiden, an anti-abortion activist who previously worked for the group Live Action, known for its heavily edited undercover videos of Planned Parenthood staffers.

"Indeed, from all that is known today, it appears that the only people who have broken laws are the extremists who have been hounding women and Planned Parenthood doctors for years," Evans added.

Video: Planned Parenthood Says More Sting Videos Are Coming

It's so sad that an organization to help women must endure such unethical and vicious attacks by anti-choice zealots.

 

[Jroc]

And regarding poor black ppl, remember it's the left who pays them not to work and who pays them to have children
...while taking their money to kill those same children. It's a nice racket.

True

False. It's conservatives who refuse to raise the minimum wage. It's conservatives who vote against maternity leave, and job guaranties. It's conservatives who oppose single payer health insurance, family leave, subsidized daycare and other real time benefits which would help poor working families. And it's conservatives who recently cut SNAP benefits, most of which go to families with children.

They already have daycare aid programs, maternity leave, FMLA, Medicaid,WIC, CHIP, SNAP. And it's pretty common knowledge that the case workers teach people how to fudge the system for more money when they no longer qualify. There are PLENTY of programs. Don't need more.

They need jobs not more stupid programs ran by leftist bureaucrats siphoning off money for themselves

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible says that life begins when the soul enters the body, at birth. One of the signs of the Apocalypse is that the Well of Souls will be empty and a child will be born without a soul.

The Bible says nothing of the sort. And "well of souls"? What in the blue bloody hell are you driveling about?

It was in a Demi Moore movie. The Seven Signs

So we're learning our theology and philosophy from Demi Moore movies now? Will I be the first person today to say that that's totally insane?

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Bible says that life begins when the soul enters the body, at birth. One of the signs of the Apocalypse is that the Well of Souls will be empty and a child will be born without a soul.

The Bible says nothing of the sort. And "well of souls"? What in the blue bloody hell are you driveling about?

It was in a Demi Moore movie. The Seven Signs

Wth lolol I swear....

Highlander... Seven Signs... Jon Stewart.

Libs watch a lot of TV apparently

Instead of reading.

Well, you know, they can't. Public education.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Well of Souls is in Jerusalem under the Temple Mount. Some of us do more reading than you can imagine.

Really? You read in a real, non-fiction book somewhere that there's a Well of Souls? Do they have tours or something you can take to see it?

 

[EverCurious]

Actually there is nothing wrong with a well run orphanage..Babies don't end up there anyways. There are many people waiting to adapt babies, get it straight

Most end up in foster care and are eventually adopted. Lots of good programs for these kids... See Heart Gallery just to name one.

I have my own [contrary] personal family experience that the foster care system isn't "good" as a whole. I'll admit a lot of it is personal experience, but here's some of my supporting sources:

~ 9 things to know about kids in foster care. Plus an unforgettable view into their lives.

2. Foster kids can suffer from PTSD at almost two times the rate of returning veterans.
And PTSD can mimic a lot of other mental illnesses, and it can manifest as nightmares, flashbacks, fight-or-flee responses, anger outbursts, and hyper-vigilance (being on "red alert" at all times), among other symptoms.

3. The average age of a foster child is 9 years old.
They're just on that edge of childhood, and chances are, it's been a pretty messed up childhood at that. Trauma does that.

4. About half of all foster kids are in non-relative foster homes.
8% are in institutions, 6% are in group homes, and only 4% are in pre-adoptive homes. Read that again — only 4% are in pre-adoptive homes.

5. Some of foster children experience multiple placements. In some cases, eight or more.
That's eight homes that they move into — and out of. And just consider ... that means they lose not just adults and other kids with whom they are establishing a bond, but friends, schoolmates, pets.

6. The average foster child remains in the system for almost two years before being reunited with their biological parents, adopted, aging out, or other outcomes.
8% of them remain in foster care for over five years. Of the 238,000 foster kids who left the system in 2013, about half were reunited with parents or primary caregivers, 21% were adopted, 15% went to live with a relative or other guardian, and 10% were emancipated (aged out).

7. In 2013, more than 23,000 young people aged out of foster care with no permanent family to end up with.
And if you add that up, year after year, hundreds of thousands of foster youth will have aged out of the system. What does that look like? "You're 18. You've got no place to live and no family. Good luck — buh-bye now!" One-quarter of former foster kids experience homelessness within four years of exiting the system.

8. Foster "alumni" (those who have been in foster homes and either adopted, returned to parents, or aged out) are likely to suffer serious mental health consequences.
They are four-five times more likely to be hospitalized for attempting suicide and five-eight times more likely to be hospitalized for serious psychiatric disorders in their teens.

Oh, and if you cry easy, I'd skip that video "ReMoved", part two is on link. I'm pretty non-emotional and that shit really tore me up. >.< Reminded me of what my adopted step-sister went through; the bio-parental abuse, bio-mom losing custody, and being placed "anywhere that'll take her, but only if we like them" policies of the gov. I'm just happy my bio-dad stepped up and adopted her, including mortgaging his home to pay for all the legal fees to "beat the gov." to be "allowed" to do so. - The court felt that because he was a farmer he didn't make enough money, because he was single he couldn't care for her, because he wasn't college educated he wasn't a good parent, and worse because he'd given custody of me to my mother in their divorce, he wasn't a fit parent.


~ Adoption Statistics Statistic Brain

Included as a supplement to the above article; 43% of adopted children lived with their birth family before adoption.

Also as a counter/supplemental to my personal experience. The stats reflect that negative social/emotional wellbeing of adopted kids are outweighed substantially by the positive well being at 88%. I do try to balance that with my family experience, but, ya know, my sister is one of those 9%, those 14%, "experiences" and /she/ didn't do anything wrong in the mess; it's not her fault but ultimately, intentionally or not, she /was/ punished for it.

Her bio-mother dumped my dad and left for Cali. As no notice or anything, just one day my sister and here mom weren't there when he got home from combining, he received divorce paperwork in the mail citing "irreconcilable differences" a couple months later. Then out of the blue, just over a year after she left him, he gets a call from my then 11 year old sister in a total panic; her new step-dad was beating the shit out of her and her mom so she'd run away from home and she didn't know what to do. My Dad, of course, dropped everything and jumped on the next plane to Cali to do what he could, which wasn't much. He [mistakenly?] went to the police after picking up my sister and calming her down, they took my sister away from him that night, told him to go home, and put her in some kind of half-way house while they "investigated." We don't even know what the police and CPS or w/e found out, it's all sealed, my sister doesn't even know. Next thing she knows she's called into court to testify about her new stepdad's abuse of her and her mom. Couple months later she's back in court cause her bio-mom's parental rights are being terminated for child neglect abuse and drug addition and she's immediately put into foster care with a family that she said had 6 other foster kids. Her first instinct, again, call my dad, so she calls him up and within a month he's mortgaged the house to hire a lawyer and petition to adopt her (they rejected his non-represented request because he was an "estranged" step-parent, apparently it's SOP?) Then her bio-mom committed suicide. Dad had to fight the system for a year to adopt her, even though he helped raise her from age 5 to 10, even though she, age 12 now, wanted him to adopt her... Apparently the system doesn't feel that 5 years is enough time to establish a "meaningful" bond as a step-parent.

Sorry, I'm going off on a tangent, back to the subject...

I find this stat "concerning," percentage of adoptive parents receiving adoption subsidy: 87%. I mean I can see ya know, it's there so why not take it, but at the same time it leads into a worrisome thought that people adopt for the subsidy. Don't know how much money it is though so maybe I'm just biased against the system. I have a serious love / hate thing with adoption in general; we can't just abandon these poor kids [again], but we shouldn't /need/ to financially motivate people to adopt either. The system is idk it needs work, it needs... something, I just don't know what (and that really frustrates me, usually I have an idea for a solution or something, but I think I'm just too "close" to the subject)


~ Statistics Intercountry Adoption (You can see the global trend, also check out the adoptions by state and individual years.)


~ Facts and Statistics

Only 101,666 of 397,122 children living without permanent families are "available" for adoption (Article doesn't say, but I'm guessing the majority are kids taken from their parents with the eventual hope to reunite them?)

In 2012, 23,396 youth aged out of the U.S. foster care system without the emotional and financial support necessary to succeed. Nearly 40% had been homeless or couch surfed, nearly 60% of young men had been convicted of a crime, and only 48% were employed. 75% of women and 33% of men receive government benefits to meet basic needs. 50% of all youth who aged out were involved in substance use and 17% of the females were pregnant.

Nearly 25% of youth aging out did not have a high school diploma or GED, and a mere 6% had finished a two- or four-year degree after aging out of foster care. One study shows 70% of all youth in foster care have the desire to attend college.

Adopted children make-up roughly 2% of the total child population under the age of 18, but 11% of all adolescents referred for therapy have been adopted. Post-adoption services are important to all types of adoption, whether foster care adoption, international adoption, or domestic infant adoption.


And specifically the stats on "orphanages" related to the quoted:

No child under three years of age should be placed in institutional care without a parent or primary caregiver, according to research from 32 European countries, including nine in-depth country studies, which considered the “risk of harm in terms of attachment disorder, developmental delay and neural atrophy in the developing brain."

Children raised in orphanages have an IQ 20 points lower than their peers in foster care, according to a meta-analysis of 75 studies (more than 3,800 children in 19 countries).

As of 2012, more than 58,000 children in the U.S. foster care system were placed in institutions or group homes, not in traditional foster homes.

 

[JoeB131]

Most definitely Margaret Sanger quote, learn your history.

Nope, completely taken out of context and distorted, Corky. You just crossed into retard land, and really can't be taken seriously anymore.

 

[Care4all]

The Well of Souls is in Jerusalem under the Temple Mount. Some of us do more reading than you can imagine.

Really? You read in a real, non-fiction book somewhere that there's a Well of Souls? Do they have tours or something you can take to see it?

Google it....the well of souls...holy of holies....there are Jewish, Muslim, and later Christian traditions regarding it.... (I am on my Kindle and have not a clue on how to copy and paste on it....)

 

[JoeB131]

How long do those countries last? I can give you a capitalist country (not crony capitalism like we have) that has been around for 500 years, has been at the top 3 of almost every category you can think of (despite having practically no natural resources); wealth, standard of living, overall happiness of citizens, education. Which is weird since they're pretty poo poo against socialist policies. Also have some of the lowest crime rates, which is also weird because their gun laws are you are issued an assault rifle as a citizen. That country is Switzerland.

Duuuuuh, Corky, Switzerland is successful because it allows a lot of shady people to hide their money there... Duuuuuuhhhhh.

Switzerland also has a pretty thorough welfare state.

It also has only about 8 million people. But never mind, Corky. Capitalism works. No, really.

 

[JoeB131]

They already have daycare aid programs, maternity leave, FMLA, Medicaid,WIC, CHIP, SNAP. And it's pretty common knowledge that the case workers teach people how to fudge the system for more money when they no longer qualify. There are PLENTY of programs. Don't need more.

Of course not. You don't give a fuck about poor children when they aren't in fetal form.

You do get that there is no LEGAL requirement to provide paid maternity leave, and the family leave is unpaid in most cases. After 12 weeks, they can legally fire you.

Unless you are bright like my ex-boss and just fire women when you find out they are pregnant. The joys of "at-Will" employment.

Now, let's look at the average snap benefit. A family of four gets a maximum monthly benefit of $649. That works out to $21.61 a day. Now, if you can provide three meals a day for four people for $21.61, you are probably up there with Jesus and the loaves and fishes thing.

Medicaid and CHIP are medical insurance programs. ONly really apply if you get sick. YOu'd be amazed how fast a medical crisis can wipe out a poor family.

 

[sakinago]

Most definitely Margaret Sanger quote, learn your history.

Nope, completely taken out of context and distorted, Corky. You just crossed into retard land, and really can't be taken seriously anymore.

How can that, or her other quotes be taken out of context, in what context does that statement become ok? Besides I thought she never said it. The lady proposed laws to only allow the worthy deemed by her and the govt to have children, how is she being taken out of context?

 

[JoeB131]

How can that, or her other quotes be taken out of context, in what context does that statement become ok? Besides I thought she never said it. The lady proposed laws to only allow the worthy deemed by her and the govt to have children, how is she being taken out of context?

"Dooooy, Corky not understand Context. Context Mean to Corky."

Hey, it's national Hug a Retard day, no one is trying to take your helmet.

(And in case you are too stu pid to take a hint, this means I'm done with you. YOu just crossed into the "Too Retarded to be treated seriously" when you started with the Sanger bullshit that got debunked DAYS ago in this thread...)

 

[BlueGin]

They already have daycare aid programs, maternity leave, FMLA, Medicaid,WIC, CHIP, SNAP. And it's pretty common knowledge that the case workers teach people how to fudge the system for more money when they no longer qualify. There are PLENTY of programs. Don't need more.

Of course not. You don't give a fuck about poor children when they aren't in fetal form.

You do get that there is no LEGAL requirement to provide paid maternity leave, and the family leave is unpaid in most cases. After 12 weeks, they can legally fire you.

Unless you are bright like my ex-boss and just fire women when you find out they are pregnant. The joys of "at-Will" employment.

Now, let's look at the average snap benefit. A family of four gets a maximum monthly benefit of $649. That works out to $21.61 a day. Now, if you can provide three meals a day for four people for $21.61, you are probably up there with Jesus and the loaves and fishes thing.

Medicaid and CHIP are medical insurance programs. ONly really apply if you get sick. YOu'd be amazed how fast a medical crisis can wipe out a poor family.

If you can't feed 4 people on 650.00 a month then there is something wrong with you. I spend less then that and don't have SNAP.

If Medicaid sucks so bad. Why did Obamacare force everyone to sign up for benefits??

You are full of shit...as most libs are.

 

[BlueGin]

They already have daycare aid programs, maternity leave, FMLA, Medicaid,WIC, CHIP, SNAP. And it's pretty common knowledge that the case workers teach people how to fudge the system for more money when they no longer qualify. There are PLENTY of programs. Don't need more.

Of course not. You don't give a fuck about poor children when they aren't in fetal form.

You do get that there is no LEGAL requirement to provide paid maternity leave, and the family leave is unpaid in most cases. After 12 weeks, they can legally fire you.

Unless you are bright like my ex-boss and just fire women when you find out they are pregnant. The joys of "at-Will" employment.

Now, let's look at the average snap benefit. A family of four gets a maximum monthly benefit of $649. That works out to $21.61 a day. Now, if you can provide three meals a day for four people for $21.61, you are probably up there with Jesus and the loaves and fishes thing.

Medicaid and CHIP are medical insurance programs. ONly really apply if you get sick. YOu'd be amazed how fast a medical crisis can wipe out a poor family.

All corporations and Gov jobs offer maternity leave and FMLA (paid). Even fast good chains such as McDonalds and Starbucks offer paid leave. Only way you wouldn't qualify is if your probationary period was not over.

Next...

 

[sakinago]

How can that, or her other quotes be taken out of context, in what context does that statement become ok? Besides I thought she never said it. The lady proposed laws to only allow the worthy deemed by her and the govt to have children, how is she being taken out of context?

"Dooooy, Corky not understand Context. Context Mean to Corky."

Hey, it's national Hug a Retard day, no one is trying to take your helmet.

(And in case you are too stu pid to take a hint, this means I'm done with you. YOu just crossed into the "Too Retarded to be treated seriously" when you started with the Sanger bullshit that got debunked DAYS ago in this thread...)

So now it's not about context, it was debunked? Despite me citing it (the letter) and a book from one of her followers, you can declare the quote debunked based on what? Besides how does that quote not line up with her well documented and proposed laws in her own book about dysgenic people???

 

[Jroc]

These people should be closed down and locked up

 

[BlindBoo]

These people should be closed down and locked up

Absolutely. CMP is an unethical and needs to be investigated for illegal activity.