Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
If I could turn you into an honest poster, I'd do it. But that's out of my control.
Of course 2008 hurt jobs-but there were problems long before that.
Please stop lying - we know you love your party, but no one here believes your bullshit.
The job market was extremely strong - until 2008.
And that you only have to rhetorically attack those links and charts to WIN! Earlier in the thread, I explained to you that we were speaking of the nation as a whole, and not individuals. We are all aware that all conservative posters on message boards are self-made rich people.
The nation as a whole has seen the poor and middle get richer - but not to the extent of the wealthy. Envy and greed are the driving factors of the left, so it angers you that others did better than you, even though your fortunes have improved.
Like the spoiled little fuck screaming "Johnny got a bigger piece of pie," you'd rather no one got any than someone get more than you.
Such is the left.
I answered your question. Surely you are aware that the middle and lower classes are losing ground.
The lower and middle aren't "losing ground," they're gaining ground - just not as much ground as the top. Your envy and greed make you seethe, not because you have less - you have more, but because others got a bigger slice on the increase.
Such is the left.
I am a moderate democrat. But I can no longer support Obama. He has added to the debt at a rate 1.78 times that of Bush II.Earlier in the thread, I explained to you that we were speaking of the nation as a whole, and not individuals. We are all aware that all conservative posters on message boards are self-made rich people.
Wow, you think I can invent links and charts on the spur of the moment?
The lower and middle class are losing ground. You can't handle reality, so you invent stories about greed and envy instead of looking at the facts.
I am a moderate democrat. But I can no longer support Obama. He has added to the debt at a rate 1.78 times that of Bush II.Earlier in the thread, I explained to you that we were speaking of the nation as a whole, and not individuals. We are all aware that all conservative posters on message boards are self-made rich people.
Also, I hope you recognize that the causes of the recession during the end of Bush, beginning of Obama was CAUSED by the real estate bubble which did/was caused by several things:
1. Caused prices to far exceed value making millions of loans underwater and unsaleable.
2. CRA and over extended (gambles interest would not go up) ARMs caused a lot of the problem.
3. Speculators buying and financing unwisely expecting a quick turnover forced real estate to be very over priced, again, unsaleable.
These issues have been around for some time but only during the Bush Administration did they get out of hand by greedy people trying to get more than they could afford. Most of it was not Bush's fault, but he did contribute.
Now all we need is for Obama to grow up and show some economic sense for the next year and we may pull out of the doldrums.
Then maybe the jobs will come back and the middle class will keep up. But remember, it is the rich who provide most of the investment money which allows companies to hire. When the rich get less rich, jobs for the middle class dry up.
Wow, you think I can invent links and charts on the spur of the moment?
Your links and charts don't support your claims, they show that 2008 wiped out the gains of the years before it.
Between January 20, 2001 and December 31, 2007; the job market was healthy and vibrant. That is a fact that no amount of bullshit changes.
Yep, September 2008 wiped everything out - yep, rating jobs as of 2009 shows a 1.1% growth - yep, you can pretend this somehow alters the facts.
It doesn't: between January 20, 2001 and December 31, 2007; the job market was healthy and vibrant.
For six of the seven indicators, the average annual growth rate between 2001 and 2007 was below the average growth rate for the comparable periods of other post-World War II economic expansions. Notably, this expansion was among the weakest since World War II with respect to both overall economic growth and growth in fixed non-residential investment. These two indicators should have captured any positive “growth effects” of the tax cuts.
The labor market also was weaker during the 2001-2007 expansion. Both employment growth and wage and salary growth were weaker during this expansion as a whole than in any prior expansion since the end of World War II.
The 2001-2007 expansion outperformed the average post-World War II expansion in only one area: corporate profits, which grew much more rapidly than average.
These conclusions hold whether one focuses on comparisons that examine the period since the expansion began in the fourth quarter of 2001, or comparisons that examine the period since the last business-cycle peak (i.e., since the 1990s expansion ended in the first quarter of 2001).
Report finds middle class losing ground - Connecticut Post
After recession, middle and working classes lose ground - CSMonitor.com
America's Middle Class Still Losing Ground
Editorials from leftists don't make your point.
[
2. CRA
When the rich get less rich, jobs for the middle class dry up.
I'd still like to know why the fuck I had to pay taxes this year when GE not only didn't pay a cent, but they got a 4 BILLION dollar rebate!
- The Tea Party support the Wealthy
- The 99%ers Occupying Wall Street support the Middle Class
Choose your side and lets get on with it!
I'd still like to know why the fuck I had to pay taxes this year when GE not only didn't pay a cent, but they got a 4 BILLION dollar rebate!
They have a "thing" with Obama.
- The Tea Party support the Wealthy
- The 99%ers Occupying Wall Street support the Middle Class
Choose your side and lets get on with it!
Why are the OWS preventing the "middle class" from getting to work on time? Why are they harrassing the "middle class" on their way to work? Why are the OWS hurting local businesses? Do they want Walmart to move into the void?
- The Tea Party support the Wealthy
- The 99%ers Occupying Wall Street support the Middle Class
Choose your side and lets get on with it!
Why are the OWS preventing the "middle class" from getting to work on time? Why are they harrassing the "middle class" on their way to work? Why are the OWS hurting local businesses? Do they want Walmart to move into the void?
Are they?
Why are the OWS preventing the "middle class" from getting to work on time? Why are they harrassing the "middle class" on their way to work? Why are the OWS hurting local businesses? Do they want Walmart to move into the void?
Are they?
Not at Zuccotti park they are not, you do not have to walk through the park to get to any of the office buildings down there.
Uh...for the functionally delusional, THAT is because it was ALSO the longest sustained period of what is know statistically as FULL EMPLOYMENT since 1929!Between May 1999 and May 2009, employment in the private sector sector only rose by 1.1%, by far the lowest 10-year increase in the post-depression period.
It's not a matter of supporting the wealthy over the middle class, but one of supporting free market systems and freedom of choice in the marketplace.
Are they?
Not at Zuccotti park they are not, you do not have to walk through the park to get to any of the office buildings down there.
Do you have to walk thru unsanitary conditions to get around that area? How is having open sewage in the area not harrassment to the senses or promoting the local businesses?
You're not a moderate Democrat, but you play one on internet message boards.
Obama's efforts have been blocked by a senseless Congress.
Once again, you make claims, and don't support them. The job market was not healthy and vibrant in those years.
For six of the seven indicators, the average annual growth rate between 2001 and 2007 was below the average growth rate for the comparable periods of other post-World War II economic expansions. Notably, this expansion was among the weakest since World War II with respect to both overall economic growth and growth in fixed non-residential investment. These two indicators should have captured any positive “growth effects” of the tax cuts.
The labor market also was weaker during the 2001-2007 expansion. Both employment growth and wage and salary growth were weaker during this expansion as a whole than in any prior expansion since the end of World War II.
The 2001-2007 expansion outperformed the average post-World War II expansion in only one area: corporate profits, which grew much more rapidly than average.
These conclusions hold whether one focuses on comparisons that examine the period since the expansion began in the fourth quarter of 2001, or comparisons that examine the period since the last business-cycle peak (i.e., since the 1990s expansion ended in the first quarter of 2001).
Report finds middle class losing ground - Connecticut Post
After recession, middle and working classes lose ground - CSMonitor.com
America's Middle Class Still Losing Ground
Editorials from leftists don't make your point.
Are they?
Not at Zuccotti park they are not, you do not have to walk through the park to get to any of the office buildings down there.
Do you have to walk thru unsanitary conditions to get around that area? How is having open sewage in the area not harrassment to the senses or promoting the local businesses?
You're saying GE DOESN'T have a thing with Obama?
{Some corporate embarrassment today for President Obama.
The chairman of the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness -- also the CEO of a billion-dollar company -- paid no corporate taxes in 2010.}
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...----the-ceo-of-ge----pays-no-corporate-taxes/
This is why no one pays attention to you - you're a partisan hack with no integrity. You say things, not based on whether they are true or false, but based on the impact they have on your shameful party. You don't give a fuck if what you post is a blatant lie, as long as it serves your party.
