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IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLYAnd, according to two of our resident posters here, talking to a black guy IS harassment. Talk about delusional. The only person to get out of hand was the pedestrian as well as the video clearly shows. Not that any of the naysayers are bothering with reality...The reality is... you are delusional.
The Militarization of our Police has to be addressed, yes. But the case of the cop who says hey what's up to the guy with the camera... yeah this video has nothing to do with the issue of militarization. This video is nothing more than hey look a cop talked to a black guy.
Without the camera, if he were shot & killed, we'd all be none the wiser as to what really happened. The Cop could have claimed he did anything. American Police have had that kind of free reign for many many years.
He could have easily claimed the man took a swing at him and therefore had to kill him. And his mates would have fully backed the story up for him. The poor guy would go to his death being known as a man who attacked an officer of the law. That happens everyday in this country. I know the Big Brother-Worshippers won't accept that, but it is the ugly reality.
but what happened in REALITY (and is the same thing that would have happened without the camera because this guy is a good cop rather than a piss poor one) is that the man was NOT shot.
Hell, with the camera the cop could have shot him and then deleted the footage - that is real easy to do. Or just smashed the camera - do you really think forensics would have reconstructed the footage if there was no reason to believe there was footage. Of he could have simply pocketed the camera. None of that happened. Why? Because your silly totalitarian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLYAnd, according to two of our resident posters here, talking to a black guy IS harassment. Talk about delusional. The only person to get out of hand was the pedestrian as well as the video clearly shows. Not that any of the naysayers are bothering with reality...
Without the camera, if he were shot & killed, we'd all be none the wiser as to what really happened. The Cop could have claimed he did anything. American Police have had that kind of free reign for many many years.
He could have easily claimed the man took a swing at him and therefore had to kill him. And his mates would have fully backed the story up for him. The poor guy would go to his death being known as a man who attacked an officer of the law. That happens everyday in this country. I know the Big Brother-Worshippers won't accept that, but it is the ugly reality.
but what happened in REALITY (and is the same thing that would have happened without the camera because this guy is a good cop rather than a piss poor one) is that the man was NOT shot.
Hell, with the camera the cop could have shot him and then deleted the footage - that is real easy to do. Or just smashed the camera - do you really think forensics would have reconstructed the footage if there was no reason to believe there was footage. Of he could have simply pocketed the camera. None of that happened. Why? Because your silly totalitarian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLYWithout the camera, if he were shot & killed, we'd all be none the wiser as to what really happened. The Cop could have claimed he did anything. American Police have had that kind of free reign for many many years.
He could have easily claimed the man took a swing at him and therefore had to kill him. And his mates would have fully backed the story up for him. The poor guy would go to his death being known as a man who attacked an officer of the law. That happens everyday in this country. I know the Big Brother-Worshippers won't accept that, but it is the ugly reality.
but what happened in REALITY (and is the same thing that would have happened without the camera because this guy is a good cop rather than a piss poor one) is that the man was NOT shot.
Hell, with the camera the cop could have shot him and then deleted the footage - that is real easy to do. Or just smashed the camera - do you really think forensics would have reconstructed the footage if there was no reason to believe there was footage. Of he could have simply pocketed the camera. None of that happened. Why? Because your silly totalitarian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
No, it doesn't happen all the time in America.Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLY
but what happened in REALITY (and is the same thing that would have happened without the camera because this guy is a good cop rather than a piss poor one) is that the man was NOT shot.
Hell, with the camera the cop could have shot him and then deleted the footage - that is real easy to do. Or just smashed the camera - do you really think forensics would have reconstructed the footage if there was no reason to believe there was footage. Of he could have simply pocketed the camera. None of that happened. Why? Because your silly totalitarian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
It happens all the time in America. Has for many many years. With no camera recording, you're at the Gestapo's mercy. They can claim anything about you and get away with it. It's you the lone Citizens' word against an entire Police Force's word. And who do you think wins on that?
No, it doesn't happen all the time in America.Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
It happens all the time in America. Has for many many years. With no camera recording, you're at the Gestapo's mercy. They can claim anything about you and get away with it. It's you the lone Citizens' word against an entire Police Force's word. And who do you think wins on that?
There are hundreds of millions of people in America. Isolated incidents is not an indication that these things happen all the time.
For an example of something that is happening all the time, look to sex.
I'm thinking you're a felon. In my experience only criminals hate cops as much as you do. It's the only rational explanation I can come up with.No, it doesn't happen all the time in America.Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
It happens all the time in America. Has for many many years. With no camera recording, you're at the Gestapo's mercy. They can claim anything about you and get away with it. It's you the lone Citizens' word against an entire Police Force's word. And who do you think wins on that?
There are hundreds of millions of people in America. Isolated incidents is not an indication that these things happen all the time.
For an example of something that is happening all the time, look to sex.
Well, i can see this is going nowhere. I'll just leave you with one thing to contemplate. If there were no cameras rolling and the officer shot & killed this man, would you ever know what actually happened? The Citizen would be dead and we would all be the none the wiser as to what actually occurred. Contemplate that for awhile. Have a good one. See ya.
I'm thinking you're a felon. In my experience only criminals hate cops as much as you do. It's the only rational explanation I can come up with.No, it doesn't happen all the time in America.Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
It happens all the time in America. Has for many many years. With no camera recording, you're at the Gestapo's mercy. They can claim anything about you and get away with it. It's you the lone Citizens' word against an entire Police Force's word. And who do you think wins on that?
There are hundreds of millions of people in America. Isolated incidents is not an indication that these things happen all the time.
For an example of something that is happening all the time, look to sex.
Well, i can see this is going nowhere. I'll just leave you with one thing to contemplate. If there were no cameras rolling and the officer shot & killed this man, would you ever know what actually happened? The Citizen would be dead and we would all be the none the wiser as to what actually occurred. Contemplate that for awhile. Have a good one. See ya.
Look up the definition of paranoia.No, it doesn't happen all the time in America.Normal people don't run around accusing people of possibly doing things they have not done, nor shown any sign of doing. That you think this cop might have killed this man without the camera... makes you delusional. That or you are projecting your homicidal tendencies.Why are you such a moron?
What are you disagreeing with? If there was no camera, this Cop could have claimed this man did anything. He could have easily claimed the man attacked him, so therefore he had to kill him. With no recording, we would all be none the wiser.
That's the kind of free reign American Police have enjoyed for many many years. But hopefully the cameras can balance things out a bit. It's better than nothing.
It happens all the time in America. Has for many many years. With no camera recording, you're at the Gestapo's mercy. They can claim anything about you and get away with it. It's you the lone Citizens' word against an entire Police Force's word. And who do you think wins on that?
There are hundreds of millions of people in America. Isolated incidents is not an indication that these things happen all the time.
For an example of something that is happening all the time, look to sex.
Well, i can see this is going nowhere. I'll just leave you with one thing to contemplate. If there were no cameras rolling and the officer shot & killed this man, would you ever know what actually happened? The Citizen would be dead and we would all be the none the wiser as to what actually occurred. Contemplate that for awhile. Have a good one. See ya.
IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLYAnd, according to two of our resident posters here, talking to a black guy IS harassment. Talk about delusional. The only person to get out of hand was the pedestrian as well as the video clearly shows. Not that any of the naysayers are bothering with reality...The reality is... you are delusional.
The Militarization of our Police has to be addressed, yes. But the case of the cop who says hey what's up to the guy with the camera... yeah this video has nothing to do with the issue of militarization. This video is nothing more than hey look a cop talked to a black guy.
Without the camera, if he were shot & killed, we'd all be none the wiser as to what really happened. The Cop could have claimed he did anything. American Police have had that kind of free reign for many many years.
He could have easily claimed the man took a swing at him and therefore had to kill him. And his mates would have fully backed the story up for him. The poor guy would go to his death being known as a man who attacked an officer of the law. That happens everyday in this country. I know the Big Brother-Worshippers won't accept that, but it is the ugly reality.
but what happened in REALITY (and is the same thing that would have happened without the camera because this guy is a good cop rather than a piss poor one) is that the man was NOT shot.
Hell, with the camera the cop could have shot him and then deleted the footage - that is real easy to do. Or just smashed the camera - do you really think forensics would have reconstructed the footage if there was no reason to believe there was footage. Of he could have simply pocketed the camera. None of that happened. Why? Because your silly totalitarian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Yes you're right, recording interaction with Police doesn't solve the problem entirely. The Police still have almost free reign to manipulate evidence and lie. If this man had been shot & killed, the usual suspect Big Brother-Worshippers would have been all-too quick to screech 'HOORAY!! WTG GESTAPO!!' With no recorded evidence, who would know any better? So a camera doesn't solve all the problems, but it does help. It's the best chance a Citizen has.
Why are you such a moron?
There was nothing remotely wrong with that stop. The cop said there'd been a robbery
It is reasonable, at any time, for a police officer to simply walk up to you and talk to you.There was nothing remotely wrong with that stop. The cop said there'd been a robbery
There's always been a robbery somewhere.
Hence, by your standards, any stop for any reason is justifiable.
There was nothing remotely wrong with that stop. The cop said there'd been a robbery and a citizen called in to report a man walking by with his hands in his pockets. The man may, or may not, have been involved in the robbery. The cop just asked him if he was ok. He didn't ask him for papers.
Investigatory stops Wex Legal Dictionary Encyclopedia LII Legal Information Institute
Had the man done something during the investigatory stop that reasonably could have led the cop to think the man was involved in criminal activity, then the cop could have patted him down for weapons.
Terry Stop Law Legal Definition
Here it appeared the man was nothing more than a black man who was walking with his hands in his pockets. The cop did nothing.
Yes, a police officer may permissibly walk up to you at any time and ask you how your day is going. Even if there's not crime reported in the area. When I was 16, one of my tires blew in a high crime area I was driving through. Two plainclothes cops stopped and helped me change the tire. I have a sophomore daughter in college in a large city. I hope cops keep an eye on her.There was nothing remotely wrong with that stop. The cop said there'd been a robbery
There's always been a robbery somewhere.
Hence, by your standards, any stop for any reason is justifiable.
Just a reminder to those of you who may have forgotten that we live in a police state.
A man from Pontiac, MI was stopped on the street and interrogated by an Oakland County Sheriff on Thanksgiving for walking with his hands in his pockets while it was snowing. The man, Brandon B Waxx McKean, pulled his hands out of his pockets to record this abuse of power.
Just a reminder to those of you who may have forgotten that we live in a police state.
A man from Pontiac, MI was stopped on the street and interrogated by an Oakland County Sheriff on Thanksgiving for walking with his hands in his pockets while it was snowing. The man, Brandon B Waxx McKean, pulled his hands out of his pockets to record this abuse of power.
The thread title is a lie, he wasn't "detained." Calling that being "interrogated" is a hyperbole and this a police state because of it is ridiculous.
I'm on your side in the sense that I think we should be highlighting police treatment of citizens, but being preposterous in how you do that is not productive to that end.
Just a reminder to those of you who may have forgotten that we live in a police state.
A man from Pontiac, MI was stopped on the street and interrogated by an Oakland County Sheriff on Thanksgiving for walking with his hands in his pockets while it was snowing. The man, Brandon B Waxx McKean, pulled his hands out of his pockets to record this abuse of power.
The thread title is a lie, he wasn't "detained." Calling that being "interrogated" is a hyperbole and this a police state because of it is ridiculous.
I'm on your side in the sense that I think we should be highlighting police treatment of citizens, but being preposterous in how you do that is not productive to that end.
If you're a Black Man, being harassed by Police is part of your daily life. So they see this issue much differently than average white people see it.
A scared white guy's whose business had been robbed before, and the black guy walked by the store twice. Cops have a job to prevent crime, not just clean up the glass. Part of that involves responding to citizen's calls and investigating. You DO NOT have a constitutional right to not have a cop ask you what you're doing? You DO HAVE a constitutional right to not answer.There was no robbery, a scared white guy called the cops because he saw a black guy on the streets.
I agree...but imagine the teaper tears if this guy was white.A scared white guy's whose business had been robbed before, and the black guy walked by the store twice. Cops have a job to prevent crime, not just clean up the glass. Part of that involves responding to citizen's calls and investigating. You DO NOT have a constitutional right to not have a cop ask you what you're doing? You DO HAVE a constitutional right to not answer.There was no robbery, a scared white guy called the cops because he saw a black guy on the streets.
