Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?

[progressive hunter]

scotus gives opinions and doesnt rule,, those opinions can later be changed,,

Which is where stare decicis comes in.

doesnt apply when the subject is constitutionality,,

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

 

[22lcidw]

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed.

Another lie.

For decades liberals have used Constitutional case law to defend against the right’s attack on citizens’ rights and protected liberties.

You mean they used case law to destroy the Constitution.

It was the original intent of the Framers that the courts determine the meaning of the Constitution – ultimately the Supreme Court:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. US Cont., Article VI

That you and other conservatives don’t like how the courts have ruled is understandable, given the Constitution’s case law safeguards the American people from the right’s fear, ignorance, and hate.

scotus gives opinions and doesnt rule,, those opinions can later be changed,,

It’s as if the Framers foresaw today’s conservatives, and recognizing that threat to the Republic and to the rights of its citizens, composed the Constitution as a countermeasure to the fear, ignorance, and hate common to the reactionary right.

The Founders foresaw a Government that would work for the benefit of We the People, would work together to reach common goals, would compromise

They would be sadly disappointed

They told you liberty. Everything else is what you did. And it was a tougher life then we have today. Everything you promote is based on massive taxes. To many crooked people for that. And no consequences for many of them.

 

[bripat9643]

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed.

Another lie.

For decades liberals have used Constitutional case law to defend against the right’s attack on citizens’ rights and protected liberties.

You mean they used case law to destroy the Constitution.

It was the original intent of the Framers that the courts determine the meaning of the Constitution – ultimately the Supreme Court:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. US Cont., Article VI

That you and other conservatives don’t like how the courts have ruled is understandable, given the Constitution’s case law safeguards the American people from the right’s fear, ignorance, and hate.

scotus gives opinions and doesnt rule,, those opinions can later be changed,,

It’s as if the Framers foresaw today’s conservatives, and recognizing that threat to the Republic and to the rights of its citizens, composed the Constitution as a countermeasure to the fear, ignorance, and hate common to the reactionary right.

The Founders foresaw a Government that would work for the benefit of We the People, would work together to reach common goals, would compromise

They would be sadly disappointed

You have no clue what they "foresaw."

 

[progressive hunter]

I've nothing against the Constitution. My problem is with people that want to cherry-pick what they want to take obsolute literally.

it is written in absolute and literal,,

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

humans have a right to work and make money

yup

 

[Oddball]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

I'm claiming that your pious virtue signaling version of "helping" involves the threat of waving a gun in peoples' faces.

That's not charity, that's looting....And you are a Marxist looter.

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Rightwinger believes Karl Marx was one of the Founding Fathers.

No, they were all LIBERALS

 

[NightFox]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

That's an insult to Karl Marx, agree with him or not at least Marx understood his own belief system and developed it based on his own observations and insights.

This cat not only doesn't understand his own beliefs, he/she has to appeal to politicians and party bosses to tell him what they should be, very sad.

 

[meaner gene]

You mean they used case law to destroy the Constitution.

So where did the USSC get that power from?

The court awarded it to itself.
Don't you know that history?

I know where you said that the Constitution doesn't use case law.

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

I'm claiming that your pious virtue signaling version of "helping" involves the threat of waving a gun in peoples' faces.

That's not charity, that's looting....And you are a Marxist looter.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society
Oliver Wendell Holmes

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Rightwinger believes Karl Marx was one of the Founding Fathers.

No, they were all LIBERALS

classic liberals,, not what todays democrat/progressive party is

 

[bripat9643]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

That's an insult to Karl Marx, agree with him or not at least Marx understood his own belief system and developed it based on his own observations and insights.

This cat not only doesn't understand his own beliefs, he/she has to appeal to politicians and party bosses to tell him what they should be, very sad.

Yep. Like a lot of leftwingers, rightwinger doesn't know he is a Marxist.

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

I'm claiming that your pious virtue signaling version of "helping" involves the threat of waving a gun in peoples' faces.

That's not charity, that's looting....And you are a Marxist looter.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society
Oliver Wendell Holmes

not when its for redistribution of wealth,,

 

[bripat9643]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

I'm claiming that your pious virtue signaling version of "helping" involves the threat of waving a gun in peoples' faces.

That's not charity, that's looting....And you are a Marxist looter.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society
Oliver Wendell Holmes

The mating call of the looter.

 

[struth]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

humans have a right to work and make money

yup

so why do you attack them working together?

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

Do you know what a Liberal is compared to a political party?

Given your posts in this thread the more relevant question is : do you have any idea of what a liberal is ? because so far you've clearly demonstrated that you do NOT.

You appear to be one of those folks that just like to use the "liberal" moniker as a mask to hide your true ideology which appears to be a garden variety, partisan progressive, maybe you can fool yourself by doing so but you're not fooling anyone that has understands history and political science.

Why not just admit what you are? are you ashamed of your belief system or something?

OK....I’ll let JFK define it for you

View attachment 492186

A 1960 Liberal. Or a 2020 Progressive Socialist. Voting for free stuff is not equality.

Helping people who need help is the earmark of a great society.
Allocating tax funds to do so is how it is done

Everyone gets “free stuff”
Some just object to others getting stuff

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

You're not a "liberal" in the 18th or 21st centuries...You are a stone fucking Marxist.

Are you claiming only Communist countries do things to help their people?

I'm claiming that your pious virtue signaling version of "helping" involves the threat of waving a gun in peoples' faces.

That's not charity, that's looting....And you are a Marxist looter.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society
Oliver Wendell Holmes

not when its for redistribution of wealth,,

Wealth has been redistributed upwards for 40 years

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Lefties hate the constitution and they want it destroyed or changed.

Another lie.

For decades liberals have used Constitutional case law to defend against the right’s attack on citizens’ rights and protected liberties.

You mean they used case law to destroy the Constitution.

It was the original intent of the Framers that the courts determine the meaning of the Constitution – ultimately the Supreme Court:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. US Cont., Article VI

That you and other conservatives don’t like how the courts have ruled is understandable, given the Constitution’s case law safeguards the American people from the right’s fear, ignorance, and hate.

scotus gives opinions and doesnt rule,, those opinions can later be changed,,

It’s as if the Framers foresaw today’s conservatives, and recognizing that threat to the Republic and to the rights of its citizens, composed the Constitution as a countermeasure to the fear, ignorance, and hate common to the reactionary right.

your premise is a lie,,

Of course it’s not a lie.

Constitutional case law exists to prevent government excess and overreach – to safeguard the rights and protected liberties of the people from the power and authority of the state.

The Framers understood that the authority of the state could be used to disadvantage those who lacked political power, who constitute a minority, or who held beliefs that might be unpopular – as conservatives today seek to violate the voting rights of American of color or the equal protection rights of gay and transgender Americans, for example.

 

[surada]

How about the 2nd Amendment? Do you agree with that?

I agree with it as written, and as interpreted for over 200 years.

I disagree with the Scalia interpretation where "the people" refer to different groups of people, in different parts of the constitution.

Leftwing justices have "interpreted" it out of existence.

No, the courts have preserved and followed the Constitution by prohibiting conservatives from using the power and authority of the state to violate the rights and protected liberties of the people.

FYI

"In total, there have been 408 voter suppression bills proposed in state legislatures as of May 19th. 25 have been signed into law so far."

Of course "voter suppression" refers to any bill designed to prevent election fraud.

No its designed to prevent citizens from voting.

 

[my2¢]

it is written in absolute and literal,,

So do you believe the President's role as Commander in Chief stretches to the Air Force and newly created Space Force? The Constitution clearly provides him that responsibility regarding our land and sea forces.