Politics, MAGA and Evangelicals

[Mac1958]

why do you label this



to be fake news Saint Bigrebnc1775

Remember the rule: If they don't like it, it's fake news.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly right.

MAGA says they're at war with us. MAGA says those who disagree with them are evil. The similarities are clear.

Look at the apocalyptic language used by MAGA'S leader: "The Final Battle", "I am your retribution". They think he was freaking sent by God save America from Satan.

This is a pseudo-religious-based cult. Christianity's version of jihadism.

They have to dehumanize their perceived enemies.

 

[dblack]

They have to dehumanize their perceived enemies.

Yep. And it's always written off as metaphorical. Until they get them selves so psyched up that they're using it justify heinous acts. If you're fighting "evil", anything goes.

 

[Mac1958]

They have to dehumanize their perceived enemies.

Yep. And it's always written off as metaphorical. Until they get them selves so psyched up that they're using it justify heinous acts. If you're fighting "evil", anything goes.

This is an important point. They don't appear to recognize hyperbole or metaphor. They take the words of people they trust literally.

So when you hear them use words like "evil" and "demonic" and "tyranny", they really mean them.

There is a disconnect. And I think the voices they trust, the people who plant this stuff in their minds, know it.

 

[The Duke]

If you're one of the many (like me) who thinks that much of America's Christian population has sold its soul to a con man, here's a really interesting interview -- and one really fascinating point.

Tim Alberta is a devout Christian who has been so troubled by this that he has written a book on the topic. The interview is almost 36 minutes, but there is one moment where I think he makes a very interesting (and even fair, kind of) point. This doesn't absolve the obvious dishonesty and rank hypocrisy that we see, but at least it explains it in a way:

At 11:46: "For a lot of these people who are panicked, who are just stricken with fear about the culture changing so quickly and the country turning on Christianity, and that their faith is in the crosshairs and one day they're going to be persecuted for their faith in this country -- a lot of folks believe that -- they think the barbarians are at the gates, and so they need a barbarian to defend them. To protect them.

"And so, they look at Trump, and the behavior and the rhetoric, and in some sense, because he is not bound by biblical teachings, not bound by biblical virtues, he is free to fight for them in ways that no good Christian ever would".

Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning, and he does a very good job here. Again, it doesn't explain away many of the behaviors, but at least there is some reasoning here to grab on to.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Says the guy who posts a picture of a gun as his avatar!

Youre another one if those scared limp dick Canadians. Scared of their own shadow.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

According to Sharia Law, B. Hussein O is a devout Muslim. Trump is recognized as the most Christian President Almighty God ever created.

You must not think very much of Christianity.

 

[DBA]

COMMIES!

i see Commies EVERYWHERE

Hey, your fellow resident Democrat JoeB131 believes that taxes are meant for wealth redistribution. He isn't ashamed to admit it.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Can someone do a Creed on Mac? You know, where Ryan on The Office just opened up a doc but told Creed it was a live blog? And Creed typed out his thoughts on Creed Thoughts

Seriously--how many posts have we had by Mac/Gigi on "Trump people are bad, I hate them, and I'm better than them"?

Mods--Mac Thoughts please?

Be Better.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey, your fellow resident Democrat JoeB131 believes that taxes are meant for wealth redistribution. He isn't ashamed to admit it.

Where has he said that?

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

We haven’t sold our soul, or worship him, or whatever. We just saw that his policies were good for America, while Biden’s are horrible for it, and we want him back in the office.

It’s not complicated.

Nope. Complete bullshit is not complicated.

 

[DBA]

It's always very telling to see them conflate religion and politics. The opposite of Christianity is communism? That is just bizarre

Communist regimes do not support religion of any kind because it undermines the authority of the government. Government is the de facto religion. Ring any bells?

 

[Mac1958]

Government is the de facto religion.

Absurd, but typical.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Are you for or against Christianization of public schools in America?

Posting stupid drunk go sober up

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You quoting your opinion is proof of what? Cultist you sold your soul to a con man and a cult

They call us a cult? Then we'll call them a cult too! Nyah! Nyah! Take that!

 

[DBA]

Absurd, but typical.

You don't have any understanding of how Communism works. My in-laws are from a communist country and they would laugh in your face...ignorance abounds.

 

[DBA]

Where has he said that?

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society

Sure looks like he said it to me.

The problem with consumption taxes is that they harm the poor more than the rich, when taxes should be about wealth restribution. We need to increase taxes on the wealthy and make those fuckers pay their fair share.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They call us a cult? Then we'll call them a cult too! Nyah! Nyah! Take that!

Stupid shit stop acting like you're in a cult if you don't want to be called a cultist. Start thinking for yourself instead of reacting to the newest unverified cultist talking points.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Have you heard of the book of Judges? So you think Trump is evil, but can vote for Biden?

The term 'bad' suffices. Evil is a theological term.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

If you can witness what is being done to our country, and sleep wel,l knowing you voted for this, I can't help you!

Cool. No one has ever said we needed your fucking help in the first place.