Poll: 86% of Americans want Dreamers to stay in U.S.

[Desperado]

Relax progs, the dacans will stay. In exchange you will see the wall and the end of the lottery/chain immigration.

Also say good bye to anchor babies

 

[Cossack1483]

Any links? Did you get your info from the jewish news?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Relax progs, the dacans will stay. In exchange you will see the wall and the end of the lottery/chain immigration.

Also say good bye to anchor babies

Future babies. Can't do anything about the legal anchor babies now and probably shouldn't in all fairness. DACA people are truly illegals.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservatives remain out of touch with most of America.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Conservatives remain out of touch with most of America.

The country is divided politically 50/50. It is the height of stupidity for you to claim your side has the majority opinion on anything.
Fuck your liberal smugness and echo chamber.

 

[miketx]

And the polls also said Hillary was going to win the election with a 98% landslide. ....

No they said she would win the popular vote by the amount that she did

So many Liberals in all the wrong places!

Yeah broken electoral system.

Because uneducated, poor people should be running things so we can all be poor.
Oh the other hand, no one will want to come here anymore.

You mean uneducated poor people like the ones who like Donald?

Regressive liberal ROE


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5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence.

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15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.

16. Russia

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[EverCurious]

I'm divided on the Dreamers personally. I mean I get what Trump's saying, that they were born here and don't know anywhere else, and I can understand the sympathy he has for their futures seeing as they were raised American. However, we played this game before, we gave amnesty and quite bluntly we got jack shit out of it but more fucking welfare (both costs and political plans to give away the farm.)

I'd like to let the Dreamers stay, but then put a stop on anchor babies somehow... like at least one parent has to be legal or something IDK

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Conservatives remain out of touch with most of America.

Is THAT why you lost over a thousand seats during the Obama years?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I'm divided on the Dreamers personally. I mean I get what Trump's saying, that they were born here and don't know anywhere else, and I can understand the sympathy he has for their futures seeing as they were raised American. However, we played this game before, we gave amnesty and quite bluntly we got jack shit out of it but more fucking welfare (both costs and political plans to give away the farm.)

I'd like to let the Dreamers stay, but then put a stop on anchor babies somehow... like at least one parent has to be legal or something IDK

Dreamers by definition were NOT born here. Some of them came as teen agers. Some, in their 30s, came here in their 20s.

Send them back. The ONLY exceptions would be those who came as children illegally and have already filed for adjustment of status. Some of these people filed as soon as they turned 18 and could. Those who are in their 30s have no excuse.

 

[EverCurious]

I'm divided on the Dreamers personally. I mean I get what Trump's saying, that they were born here and don't know anywhere else, and I can understand the sympathy he has for their futures seeing as they were raised American. However, we played this game before, we gave amnesty and quite bluntly we got jack shit out of it but more fucking welfare (both costs and political plans to give away the farm.)

I'd like to let the Dreamers stay, but then put a stop on anchor babies somehow... like at least one parent has to be legal or something IDK

Dreamers by definition were NOT born here. Some of them came as teen agers. Some, in their 30s, came here in their 20s.

Send them back. The ONLY exceptions would be those who came as children illegally and have already filed for adjustment of status. Some of these people filed as soon as they turned 18 and could. Those who are in their 30s have no excuse.

Well, yes and no... The second rule of DACA is that you had to have been under 16 when brought here. Which is under the age of 31 in 2015, because DACA is just "the latest" in a string of deferred actions (aka kicking the can down the road) that's been going on since the Dream Act in 2001, which was that you'd been brought here before the age of 16.

"Dreamers," those brought here at < 16 in 1999 (which was the "cut off" year for Dream Act) would/could be up to age 34 today, and lets be honest, you know some of the teens lied so they are some that are probably more like 36-40...

This is why I say, we did this shit before and look what we got out of it - now we have folks in their mid to upper thirties who are still fucking illegal. Clearly the "Dream Act" and all it's bullshit reiterations like DACA didn't, and won't, solve the damned problem.

Trump really just wants this shit resolved once and for all, and I'm in complete agreement with him on that. They're either legal citizens or they can get the fuck out, no more bullshit games.



EDIT... Okay I have to take a bit of that back. I looked it up again, Dream ACT was had to be under 16 when brought here and have /resided/ in the US for 5 years, so a Dreamer could potentially be 21 in 1999, which means you could be 39. Yay for spending your entire fucking life as an illegal GG ~rolls eyes~

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Keep the dreamers, deport Antifa