POLL: Americans 'Overwhelmingly' Believe Obama 'Improperly Surveilled' Trump...

[The Original Tree]

How can the Government Spy on American Citizens INDEFINITELY and NEVER CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING?

After 9/11, Big Brother seized full control. Obama just used the 'legal' Government mechanisms of law enforcement as a weapon against the opposition. It all may have been 'legal', but it was an egregious attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Hopefully, more Americans will recognize that and decide on change. Our nation is in crisis. Which direction will we choose?

I say get rid of FISA, Fix Immigration, and improve Border Security and give us our Country back.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

 

[AntonToo]

How can the Government Spy on American Citizens INDEFINITELY and NEVER CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING?

It’s called the Patriot Act. Your boy GW Bush signed it into law

So another one admits Obama spied on Trump....

WTF is your malfunction?

Where did he admit any such thing?

Never play the game clue with me, you would lose.

Dude, no games - you are straight retarded.

Government can THEORETICALLY spy on a citizen indefinitely through FISA court warrants. But in practice warrants are only for three months and to renew it there had to have been some evidence collected in the last three months to justify further surveillance.

Aknowledging that this is the case has NOTHING TO DO WITH ADMITTING THAT OBAMA SPYING ON TRUMP.

 

[AntonToo]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

 

[AntonToo]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

Idiot the wiretapping was on Kislyak, a Russian spy (and a diplomat).

Alarms went off when Flynn called him up, inappropriately discussed sanctions and then lied to the whole world about that, including FBI.


OOOOOKKK? Do you think a year later after all this became known you can somehow manage to get the basic facts right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

Idiot the wiretapping was on Kislyak, a Russian spy (and a diplomat).

Alarms went off when Flynn called him up, inappropriately discussed sanctions and then lied to the whole world about that, including FBI.


OOOOOKKK? Do you think a year later after all this became known you can somehow manage to get the basic facts right?

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

When did Kislyak become a Trump campaign adviser?

 

[AntonToo]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

Idiot the wiretapping was on Kislyak, a Russian spy (and a diplomat).

Alarms went off when Flynn called him up, inappropriately discussed sanctions and then lied to the whole world about that, including FBI.


OOOOOKKK? Do you think a year later after all this became known you can somehow manage to get the basic facts right?

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

When did Kislyak become a Trump campaign adviser?

What the fuck are you talking about? Flynn was not caught in any business dealings, Manafort was.

Manafort was getting paid millions by Russian puppet government in Ukraine and was under surveillance well before election as a foreign agent and then after he got fired. He WAS NOT surveiled during his time as a Trump campaign chair.

Obama ordering surveillance on Manafort or Carter is nonsense as there was no way to know that they would have anything to do with Trump.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

Idiot the wiretapping was on Kislyak, a Russian spy (and a diplomat).

Alarms went off when Flynn called him up, inappropriately discussed sanctions and then lied to the whole world about that, including FBI.


OOOOOKKK? Do you think a year later after all this became known you can somehow manage to get the basic facts right?

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

When did Kislyak become a Trump campaign adviser?

What the fuck are you talking about? Flynn was not caught in any business dealings, Manafort was.

Manafort was getting paid millions by Russian puppet government in Ukraine and was under surveillance well before election as a foreign agent and then after he got fired. He WAS NOT surveiled during his time as a Trump campaign chair.

Obama ordering surveillance on Manafort or Carter is nonsense as there was no way to know that they would have anything to do with Trump.

Not my fault you can't read what the Times reported, "Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

Did that help? Is Kisylak a "Campaign Adviser"?

 

[AntonToo]

No they DID NOT. Flynn was recorded while talking to Kislyak, a Russian spy who was appropriately under surveillance.

You idiots need to lay off playing detectives - you are totally clueless.

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated" Kislyak is a Trump campaign adviser? really?

Idiot the wiretapping was on Kislyak, a Russian spy (and a diplomat).

Alarms went off when Flynn called him up, inappropriately discussed sanctions and then lied to the whole world about that, including FBI.


OOOOOKKK? Do you think a year later after all this became known you can somehow manage to get the basic facts right?

"Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

When did Kislyak become a Trump campaign adviser?

What the fuck are you talking about? Flynn was not caught in any business dealings, Manafort was.

Manafort was getting paid millions by Russian puppet government in Ukraine and was under surveillance well before election as a foreign agent and then after he got fired. He WAS NOT surveiled during his time as a Trump campaign chair.

Obama ordering surveillance on Manafort or Carter is nonsense as there was no way to know that they would have anything to do with Trump.

Not my fault you can't read what the Times reported, "Business dealings of Campaign advisers are investigated"

Did that help? Is Kisylak a "Campaign Adviser"?

....moron, here is your original claim:

Even the NYTimes reported that Obama wiretapped Flynn

Where the fuck does NYT say anything like that?

 

[Dragonlady]

The real and disturbing story is emerging. Democrats can continue pushing their 'Trump-Russia Collusion' farce, but decent common sense-thinking folks understand what happened. The sitting Democrat President used Government mechanisms of law enforcement to surveill and harm the Republican opposition. It was an incredibly egregious abuse of power. It was Watergate Ten-fold. It was an attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Those involved should be punished. Period, end of story.

Everything in your post has been proven false. The parts of the Dossier which have been investigated have been proven true.

Members of the Trump campaign and the Administration have repeatedly lied about their connections to Russia and Russia absolutely interfered with the US election in opposition to Hillary Clinton and promoting Donald Trump.

What people believe to be true is less important than what is true. Trump took the measure of the American people with his Birther Campaign. Republicans believed it. Many continue to believe it.

The rest of the world was appalled. We continue to be appalled that the American people continue to accept the word of the Lying President and his prevaricating staff and supporters.

I absolutely agree. Trump and the members of his campaign who colluded with the Russians must go.

 

[J.E.D]

How can the Government Spy on American Citizens INDEFINITELY and NEVER CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING?

It’s called the Patriot Act. Your boy GW Bush signed it into law

So another one admits Obama spied on Trump....

WTF is your malfunction?

Where did he admit any such thing?

Never play the game clue with me, you would lose.

Apparently you would lose because your instincts are way off pal

 

[The Original Tree]

Everything in your post has been proven false.

The real and disturbing story is emerging. Democrats can continue pushing their 'Trump-Russia Collusion' farce, but decent common sense-thinking folks understand what happened. The sitting Democrat President used Government mechanisms of law enforcement to surveill and harm the Republican opposition. It was an incredibly egregious abuse of power. It was Watergate Ten-fold. It was an attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Those involved should be punished. Period, end of story.

Everything in your post has been proven false. The parts of the Dossier which have been investigated have been proven true.

Members of the Trump campaign and the Administration have repeatedly lied about their connections to Russia and Russia absolutely interfered with the US election in opposition to Hillary Clinton and promoting Donald Trump.

What people believe to be true is less important than what is true. Trump took the measure of the American people with his Birther Campaign. Republicans believed it. Many continue to believe it.

The rest of the world was appalled. We continue to be appalled that the American people continue to accept the word of the Lying President and his prevaricating staff and supporters.

I absolutely agree. Trump and the members of his campaign who colluded with the Russians must go.

 

[Dschrute3]

How can the Government Spy on American Citizens INDEFINITELY and NEVER CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING?

After 9/11, Big Brother seized full control. Obama just used the 'legal' Government mechanisms of law enforcement as a weapon against the opposition. It all may have been 'legal', but it was an egregious attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Hopefully, more Americans will recognize that and decide on change. Our nation is in crisis. Which direction will we choose?

I say get rid of FISA, Fix Immigration, and improve Border Security and give us our Country back.

Spot On. Thanks.

 

[Syriusly]

Uh, duh. A sitting Democrat US President orders mass surveillance on the opposition Republican Party Candidate? It's Watergate Ten-fold. It's treasonous. But will anyone be held accountable? Sadly, I wouldn't bet on it.

Why would anyone be 'held accountable' for your lies?

Just because there are Americans that have bought into the GOP lies doesn't mean that even the GOP will manage to corrupt the FBI and our courts enough to make your lies a criminal case.

 

[Syriusly]

How can the Government Spy on American Citizens INDEFINITELY and NEVER CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING?

They can spy on them if they follow the law and get court approval. And get that renewed every 90 days by providing additional information to justify the spying.

The GOP just pushed through the renewal of this law in January without a single change to the law.

By the way- the order didn't request spying on any Trump campaign member or any Trump administration member.

The OP lied.

 

[Dragonlady]

Everything in your post has been proven false.

The real and disturbing story is emerging. Democrats can continue pushing their 'Trump-Russia Collusion' farce, but decent common sense-thinking folks understand what happened. The sitting Democrat President used Government mechanisms of law enforcement to surveill and harm the Republican opposition. It was an incredibly egregious abuse of power. It was Watergate Ten-fold. It was an attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Those involved should be punished. Period, end of story.

Everything in your post has been proven false. The parts of the Dossier which have been investigated have been proven true.

Members of the Trump campaign and the Administration have repeatedly lied about their connections to Russia and Russia absolutely interfered with the US election in opposition to Hillary Clinton and promoting Donald Trump.

What people believe to be true is less important than what is true. Trump took the measure of the American people with his Birther Campaign. Republicans believed it. Many continue to believe it.

The rest of the world was appalled. We continue to be appalled that the American people continue to accept the word of the Lying President and his prevaricating staff and supporters.

I absolutely agree. Trump and the members of his campaign who colluded with the Russians must go.

Your saying it, without the slightest bit of evidence, doesn’t make it true. You come here and lie and defend Trump like you’re not a Russian bot.

We’re not that gullible.

 

[Dschrute3]

The real and disturbing story is emerging. Democrats can continue pushing their 'Trump-Russia Collusion' farce, but decent common sense-thinking folks understand what happened. The sitting Democrat President used Government mechanisms of law enforcement to surveill and harm the Republican opposition. It was an incredibly egregious abuse of power. It was Watergate Ten-fold. It was an attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Those involved should be punished. Period, end of story.

Everything in your post has been proven false. The parts of the Dossier which have been investigated have been proven true.

Members of the Trump campaign and the Administration have repeatedly lied about their connections to Russia and Russia absolutely interfered with the US election in opposition to Hillary Clinton and promoting Donald Trump.

What people believe to be true is less important than what is true. Trump took the measure of the American people with his Birther Campaign. Republicans believed it. Many continue to believe it.

The rest of the world was appalled. We continue to be appalled that the American people continue to accept the word of the Lying President and his prevaricating staff and supporters.

I absolutely agree. Trump and the members of his campaign who colluded with the Russians must go.

I'm sure if a sitting Republican President ordered such surveillance on the Democrat opposition, you would have a completely different take. It is Watergate Ten-fold. Heads should roll.

 

[Dschrute3]

Uh, duh. A sitting Democrat US President orders mass surveillance on the opposition Republican Party Candidate? It's Watergate Ten-fold. It's treasonous. But will anyone be held accountable? Sadly, I wouldn't bet on it.

Why would anyone be 'held accountable' for your lies?

Just because there are Americans that have bought into the GOP lies doesn't mean that even the GOP will manage to corrupt the FBI and our courts enough to make your lies a criminal case.

I'm sure if it was a sitting Republican President ordering surveillance on the Democrat opposition, you would have a completely different take. Just a hunch anyway.

 

[Dschrute3]

Everything in your post has been proven false.

The real and disturbing story is emerging. Democrats can continue pushing their 'Trump-Russia Collusion' farce, but decent common sense-thinking folks understand what happened. The sitting Democrat President used Government mechanisms of law enforcement to surveill and harm the Republican opposition. It was an incredibly egregious abuse of power. It was Watergate Ten-fold. It was an attack on the very foundations of our Democratic Republic. Those involved should be punished. Period, end of story.

Everything in your post has been proven false. The parts of the Dossier which have been investigated have been proven true.

Members of the Trump campaign and the Administration have repeatedly lied about their connections to Russia and Russia absolutely interfered with the US election in opposition to Hillary Clinton and promoting Donald Trump.

What people believe to be true is less important than what is true. Trump took the measure of the American people with his Birther Campaign. Republicans believed it. Many continue to believe it.

The rest of the world was appalled. We continue to be appalled that the American people continue to accept the word of the Lying President and his prevaricating staff and supporters.

I absolutely agree. Trump and the members of his campaign who colluded with the Russians must go.

Your saying it, without the slightest bit of evidence, doesn’t make it true. You come here and lie and defend Trump like you’re not a Russian bot.

We’re not that gullible.

Watergate Ten-fold. That's the sad reality. Obama/Democrats used the Government mechanisms of law enforcement to mass surveill the Republican opposition. They should all be prosecuted.