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You can't have an American political party that's trying to destroy everything America is, and that's what Democrats are right now. It's just not gonna work. At all. Unlike them, I have faith in The People.Isn't it nice to see Ds and Rs agree? "We love the dysfunctional division we've foisted on the country!"
Mkay. They say the same kind of hysterical shit about the Republicans. OMG!!!!!You can't have an American political party that's trying to destroy everything America is, and that's what Democrats are right now. It's just not gonna work. At all.
That sounds like critical thinking, commie. We cheerleaders don't cotton to that around this here football game.Not out of blind ideology but political reality. I disagree with the Democrats on a lot of things but on those things I disagree with them on the Republicans are even worse. My options then are to either don't vote, cast a protest vote and potentially let the worse candidate win or maybe help a middling Democrat eek out a victory and hope someone better emerges for a primary next time around. Or do you geniuses in the middle see some other political calculation I'm missing?
'pwning da libs'For me, the problem of partisanship is summed up in the lesser-of-two-evils scam. We have people voting for bad candidates, on purpose, just to support their party. They're fucking the country so they can get a leg up in their precious culture war.
Just say no. YOU are perpetuating the dysfunction by giving in to the fear-mongering.Not out of blind ideology but political reality. I disagree with the Democrats on a lot of things but on those things I disagree with them on the Republicans are even worse. My options then are to either don't vote, cast a protest vote and potentially let the worse candidate win or maybe help a middling Democrat eek out a victory and hope someone better emerges for a primary next time around. Or do you geniuses in the middle see some other political calculation I'm missing?
And then what? Maybe allow the greater of the evils to win? What you seem to be disagreeing on, ultimately, is strategy. So what's your better one? Also I'm not afraid of white wingers, I just think the policies they support are shit.Just say no. YOU are perpetuating the dysfunction by giving in to the fear-mongering.
Not out of blind ideology but political reality. I disagree with the Democrats on a lot of things but on those things I disagree with them on the Republicans are even worse. My options then are to either don't vote, cast a protest vote and potentially let the worse candidate win or maybe help a middling Democrat eek out a victory and hope someone better emerges for a primary next time around. Or do you geniuses in the middle see some other political calculation I'm missing?
Which KKK member? Let's see him. Let's see what you imagine to be the real KKK.That's your justification for supporting the KKK?
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And then, when they look at the vote totals and realize that more and more of us aren't falling for their bullshit, they'll change their tune. As it is, they have zero reason to change because you're going to vote for them regardless.And then what?
Yes, the "greater" of two evils might win. I'm still not using that as a twisted excuse to vote for evil. If we're electing an "evil" (or just a really bad) candidate, that's a losing game. Losing "less" is an irrelevant concern. If we can't figure out how to elect "not evil" candidates, we're hosed.Maybe allow the greater of the evils to win? What you seem to be disagreeing on, ultimately, is strategy. So what's your better one?
You tell me Marvin, it's your cosplay. How many pictures of the KKK do you keep on your person?There's more than one???
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I can always tell when libs realize they are losing the argument as soon as they play the race cardYou tell me Marvin, it's your cosplay. How many pictures of the KKK do you keep on your person?
That's your hope. Hillary blame Bernie and her ongoing investigation for her loss. Trump blamed corruption. You imagine these people will have a moment of self reflection and I that sort of naivety adorable.And then, when they look at the vote totals and realize that more and more of us aren't falling for their bullshit, they'll change their tune.
I'm not expecting them to change. I'm expecting them to be less shitty than the other guy. Change comes with primaries. Ideally.As it is, they have zero reason to change because you're going to vote for them regardless.
Good for you but what the fuck does that have to do with me? That doesn't make me a partisan. I still don't even know what the fuck even means in this context. If a better candidate came along from whatever party with a shot at winning I'd be voting for them.Yes, the "greater" of two evils might win. I'm still not using that as a twisted excuse to vote for evil.
Prove it. What has it gotten you? What are your results with this strategy?The better "strategy" is to quit trying to game the system and just vote honestly.
Well Marvin really only has the one trick....I can always tell when libs realize they are losing the argument as soon as they play the race card
It was really not my business and didnt need my commentsWell Marvin really only has the one trick....
No. I imagine that if we stop voting for them, they stop getting electing. It's very simple.That's your hope. Hillary blame Bernie and her ongoing investigation for her loss. Trump blamed corruption. You imagine these people will have a moment of self reflection and I that sort of naivety adorable.
What does it get me? A clean conscience for starters. If you dumb fucks want to bury our country, I might not be able to stop you, but I won't join in.Prove it. What has it gotten you? What are your results with this strategy?
And the worse candidate gets elected. I understand. I'm not sure you do.No. I imagine that if we stop voting for them, they stop getting electing. It's very simple.
I don't think it's a privilege. That's narrative cosplay you're now attempting to bring in to make your argument work. I think it's unfortunate and still the political reality of the situation.Listen, they've beat you down to the point that you think of it as some kind of privilege to get to choose between two "evils'. Fuck that.
I don't think my country is getting buried because any candidate gets elected. That's your frail premise, not mine.What does it get me? A clean conscience for starters. If you dumb fucks want to bury our country, I might not be able to stop you, but I won't join in.
Yeah If. I don't operate on cosplay and make believe as easily as you do. Show evidence of your viability and I'll vote for you if I agree with your policies and think you're even slightly better than the current office holder.But I promise you, if even twenty percent of the electorate grows a spine and tells both the Democrats and Republicans to get fucked, the majors will be falling all over themselves trying to figure out how to get those voters back.
The most likely outcome is that 2% show up for that other candidate, not 20% and the mainstream continues to ignore you like the insignificant voter that you are.That's the most likely outcome. Either that or, as the momentum swings, they'll eventually lose to candidates voters actually want.
The Democratic party looks to be slowly moving more leftward to me. The squad keeps growing. That's an outcome I'm content with. Certainly better than most of the other likely alternatives.Ultimately we need systemic changes (like RCV) so that strategic voting doesn't work.
You're the one afraid for the country Chicken Little. Not me. Have you forgotten your own premise already?So that the fear-mongering doesn't work. But we won't get that as long as the two parties are dominating.