[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[PMZ]

Why is it people believe they have a right to other people's property?
Where is it written in law that someone has a right to property that they did not earn?

Well stated. As someone risking my own money, I care a lot about my employees and my customers and making them happy.

Obama on the other hand doesn't give a crap about me, and I'm paying a disproportionately huge share of the cost of his agenda.

That PMZ think that means that he, Obama and Karl Marx care about people and I don't is par for his Communist course. It's a lie, they care about themselves, and that is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer.

Nobody cared as much for the German, white, Christian, blond haired and blue eyed people than your hero, Adolf.

 

[PMZ]

People who work for others agree to trade their labor for dollars so the only "wealth" they create is the money they receive for the only commodity they sell; their labor.

And it seems to me that there are too many definitions of "wealth"

A product is not wealth, income is not wealth, net worth is wealth.

A laborer can steadily increase his net worth by saving or making more by becoming a more valuable laborer.

People who buy other people's labor are not forcing others to sell their labor to them.

Money is merely a token substitute for wealth. Real wealth is goods and services that workers create.

Money is how we keep score. You can trade it in for toys.

Unless you need it for survival.

 

[PMZ]

You can screw your employees, your customers, your suppliers, and your country.

In fact I have to believe that you do regularly.

Based on what?

The attitude depict in your posts.

 

[PMZ]

Why is it people believe they have a right to other people's property?
Where is it written in law that someone has a right to property that they did not earn?

The American body of law.

 

[Gadawg73]

Why is it people believe they have a right to other people's property?
Where is it written in law that someone has a right to property that they did not earn?

The American body of law.

Where?
Specifics please.
At least you admit you believe it is okay to plunder from the producers to grow the moocher class.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well Adolf,

Comrade, can you list anything that I've posted that is consistent with the National Socialist German Workers Party?

Anything at all?

Didn't think so...

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

I don't know if a majority of Republicans are rich and greedy but many of them are.

How did they get to be rich, if everything they touch turns to shit?

And many are dixiecrats angry at losing their slaves.

ROFL

Yep, 1862 was just a few weeks back...

And the failures of the Bush administration are legend and indisputable.

Flail monkey, flail....

That Fox News is Republican propaganda is well known and the fact that you parrot it is a sure sign of your addiction and the ignorance to fall for it.

What does that have to do with your assertion that everything Republicans touch turns to shit?

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

So I'm pretty much right on here.

ROFL..

Are you mentally retarded?

 

[kaz]

Money is merely a token substitute for wealth. Real wealth is goods and services that workers create.

Money is how we keep score. You can trade it in for toys.

Unless you need it for survival.

That means you're not playing the game very well. No wonder.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Monarchy is rule by a monarch.

Aristocracy is rule by a minority who consider themselves superior human beings.

This is not rocket science.

Ah, you are as uneducated as you are ignorant.

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

 

[kaz]

You can screw your employees, your customers, your suppliers, and your country.

In fact I have to believe that you do regularly.

Based on what?

The attitude depict in your posts.

If I ran my business like you say, I'd be broke. You know, like Obama did to the country. The difference is I can't go to my customers and take their money with guns.

 

[dcraelin]

A democracy is direct voting, that's true, but a republic is not indirect voting. A republic is when the whole is comprised of relatively autonomous member states. As the US was designed to be. The Federal government had certain, enumerated powers, and the rest of the powers resided with the States (Republics) or the people.

What you are thinking of is a representative republic. Which is correct in terms of what the US is. The republics are represented by representatives, who they elect.

The man u are refuting was one of the most learned of Founders. A federation or Confederation is comprised of relatively autonomous member states. Republics can have direct citizen lawmaking as Wilson said, as is shown in history, and as is an option in numerous states.

Sorry. I was using my phone so I could see the picture but not read the words. Now I'm using the IPad so the words are clear.

The dictionary definition of republic and democracy is pretty clear. And there are many countries around the world who call themselves republics solely because they don't have a monarch.

I can live with that definition tho I think it is wrong.

IF he said that, which I highly doubt, he was a complete moron.

Distinguish between "monarchy" and "aristocracy" as forms of government? This is idiocy, since both are in fact classes of the governmental system known as "feudalism."

He said it and was one of the most learned of the Founders. On first Supreme Court And some think wrote significant parts of the constitution.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You mean like Obama...

PMZ has trouble with even simple concepts....

{The aristocracy are, generally, people that a particular social order considers in the highest social class of that society. Specifically, in monarchies, the aristocracy are a class of people (aristocrats) who either possess hereditary titles granted by a monarch or are related to such people. In some societies—such as Ancient Greece, Rome, and India—aristocratic status may derive from membership of a military caste. Aristocratic status can involve feudal or legal privileges.[1] They are usually below only the monarch of a country or nation in its social hierarchy.

The term aristocracy derives from the Greek ἀριστοκρατία (aristokratia), ἄριστος (aristos) "excellent," and κράτος (kratos) "power".[2] In most cases, aristocratic titles were and are hereditary, passing on death to another family member, typically the eldest son or eldest child.}

Aristocracy (class) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He confuses power structures with governmental models. A ruling aristocracy is often found in feudal monarchies, but was also present in the ancient Greek Democracy. America has a pseudo aristocracy, where noble families such as the Kennedy, Bush, and Gore clans, pass power on to successive generations. Yet we are not an "aristocracy," we are a Constitutional Republic. Our little troll cannot grasp the distinction between "what" and "how."

 

[PMZ]

Why is it people believe they have a right to other people's property?
Where is it written in law that someone has a right to property that they did not earn?

The American body of law.

Where?
Specifics please.
At least you admit you believe it is okay to plunder from the producers to grow the moocher class.

I believe that our tax laws are Constitutional.

 

[PMZ]

Based on what?

The attitude depict in your posts.

If I ran my business like you say, I'd be broke. You know, like Obama did to the country. The difference is I can't go to my customers and take their money with guns.

I don't know your business but there are certainly ruthless but rich businessmen. Bernie Madoff comes to mind and there are certainly many more like him that haven't been caught.

When's the last you had a armed Fed at your house collecting taxes?

 

[PMZ]

Monarchy is rule by a monarch.

Aristocracy is rule by a minority who consider themselves superior human beings.

This is not rocket science.

Ah, you are as uneducated as you are ignorant.

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

Didn't they teach you about dictionaries in reform school?

 

[Uncensored2008]

The American body of law.

Where?
Specifics please.
At least you admit you believe it is okay to plunder from the producers to grow the moocher class.

I believe that our tax laws are Constitutional.

I believe that you are drunk.

 

[bripat9643]

The American body of law.

Where?
Specifics please.
At least you admit you believe it is okay to plunder from the producers to grow the moocher class.

I believe that our tax laws are Constitutional.

Really? So how does filling out form 1040 square with the 5th Amendment?

 

[bripat9643]

Monarchy is rule by a monarch.

Aristocracy is rule by a minority who consider themselves superior human beings.

This is not rocket science.

Ah, you are as uneducated as you are ignorant.

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

Didn't they teach you about dictionaries in reform school?

Full Definition of ARISTOCRACY

1: government by the best individuals or by a small privileged class
2

a : a government in which power is vested in a minority consisting of those believed to be best qualified
b : a state with such a government​

3: a governing body or upper class usually made up of a hereditary nobility
4: the aggregate of those believed to be superior​

 

[PMZ]

Ah, you are as uneducated as you are ignorant.

Well, you didn't become a communist because you're the best and brightest, now did you?

Didn't they teach you about dictionaries in reform school?

Full Definition of ARISTOCRACY

1: government by the best individuals or by a small privileged class
2

a : a government in which power is vested in a minority consisting of those believed to be best qualified
b : a state with such a government​

3: a governing body or upper class usually made up of a hereditary nobility
4: the aggregate of those believed to be superior​

Exactly as I said. Government by those who consider themselves superior.

 

[PMZ]

Where?
Specifics please.
At least you admit you believe it is okay to plunder from the producers to grow the moocher class.

I believe that our tax laws are Constitutional.

Really? So how does filling out form 1040 square with the 5th Amendment?

I believe that our tax laws are Constitutional. So does the Supreme Court. If you don't, challenge the law and pay for the lawyers to get a decision on your concerns from the Federal Courts.

 

[bripat9643]

Didn't they teach you about dictionaries in reform school?

Full Definition of ARISTOCRACY

1: government by the best individuals or by a small privileged class
2

a : a government in which power is vested in a minority consisting of those believed to be best qualified
b : a state with such a government​

3: a governing body or upper class usually made up of a hereditary nobility
4: the aggregate of those believed to be superior​

Exactly as I said. Government by those who consider themselves superior.

In other words, rule by liberals?