Poor poor liberal gun grabbers.

[danielpalos]

Poor poor liberal gun grabber got bitch slapped again. The restrictions on concealed carry in DC were ruled unconstitutional AGAIN.

(Can't get the link to copy, Google it if you don't trust me)

so what; a well regulated militia is a State's sovereign right.

 

[PredFan]

Poor poor gun grabbers get butch slapped again.

A federal judge dismissed a case that the Brady Center had against ammo dealers, and the ordered the idiot gun grabbers to pay the legal fees.

Ah sweet Justice!

 

[danielpalos]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

 

[PredFan]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

Don't feed the troll.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"so what; a well regulated militia is a State's sovereign right"

Wrong. The right to bear arms is an individual American right.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

Commerce must be well regulated to make it Regular not to Prohibit which means no Commerce to Regulate into regularity.

 

[danielpalos]

"so what; a well regulated militia is a State's sovereign right"

Wrong. The right to bear arms is an individual American right.

There is no appeal to ignorance of the first Clause of our supreme law of the land as declared in our Second Article of Amendment.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

Commerce must be well regulated to make it Regular not to Prohibit which means no Commerce to Regulate into regularity.

Yes, commerce is regulated. What regulation did the ammo dealer violate?

 

[9thIDdoc]

Individuals have rights. States may have authority; not rights.

Maybe you missed "..right of the people.." part.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

Commerce must be well regulated to make it Regular not to Prohibit which means no Commerce to Regulate into regularity.

Yes, commerce is regulated. What regulation did the ammo dealer violate?

I am not saying the ammo dealer did; Only our federal Congress can regulate Commerce among our Union of States.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause.

How was there a claim of appeal to ignorance of our commerce clause?

Commerce must be well regulated to make it Regular not to Prohibit which means no Commerce to Regulate into regularity.

Yes, commerce is regulated. What regulation did the ammo dealer violate?

I am not saying the ammo dealer did; Only our federal Congress can regulate Commerce among our Union of States.

Then there was no appeal to ignorance of the Commerce Clause. Unless the ammo dealer violated a regulation, the court case should have been thrown out, at least where the Commerce Clause was concerned.

 

[danielpalos]

Individuals have rights. States may have authority; not rights.

Maybe you missed "..right of the people.." part.

States have rights in relation to the general government of the Union as declared in our Tenth Amendment.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free Sate not individual rights in private property since Arms for the Militia of the United States are declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8--To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311--10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes -
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Not All of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; Only well regulated Militias are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.

Only our federal Congress can prescribe wellness of regulation for the Militia of the United States.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

 

[9thIDdoc]

"Militia" simply means "group of armed civilians". Historically there have been city, county, state, private, and national militias.
It does NOT state that the unorganized militia cannot be considered well regulated. It does NOT state that the militia of the United States is the only militia there is or can be and there most certainly have been, and presently are, others.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,..."

Free state; not United States.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms..."

Not the right of the militia, the state, or of the Nation. The people. The individual people as the term is used throughout the Constitution. If you want it to mean something else you'll have to amend the Constitution. Good luck.

BTW- The SC agrees with me.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Individuals have rights. States may have authority; not rights.

Maybe you missed "..right of the people.." part.

States have rights in relation to the general government of the Union as declared in our Tenth Amendment.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free Sate not individual rights in private property since Arms for the Militia of the United States are declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8--To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311--10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes -
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Not All of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; Only well regulated Militias are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.

Only our federal Congress can prescribe wellness of regulation for the Militia of the United States.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Me thinks you ain't got a clue.

No weapons are socialized.
The US federal govt may arm the militia. However it also may not arm the militia. So, the militia needs arms in times when A) the govt is tyrannical and B) is not being armed.

So, the 2A is there so there is a ready supply of weapons apart from any government control.

 

[frigidweirdo]

"Militia" simply means "group of armed civilians". Historically there have been city, county, state, private, and national militias.
It does NOT state that the unorganized militia cannot be considered well regulated. It does NOT state that the militia of the United States is the only militia there is or can be and there most certainly have been, and presently are, others.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,..."

Free state; not United States.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms..."

Not the right of the militia, the state, or of the Nation. The people. The individual people as the term is used throughout the Constitution. If you want it to mean something else you'll have to amend the Constitution. Good luck.

BTW- The SC agrees with me.

The militia in the constitution is a militia in which the states appoint officers, and which the feds can call up to federal duty. It is NOT just any old militia. If you read Presser you'd know this.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"The militia in the constitution is a militia in which the states appoint officers, and which the feds can call up to federal duty. It is NOT just any old militia. If you read Presser you'd know this".

And if Presser were to read me he might learn something.

 

[prison/con.net]

The right to freedom and self defense existed BEFORE the Constitution was written and it will STILL exist after the US has collapsed. Do NOT count upon words on paper to protect your rights! ONLY your willingness and ability to KILL would be usurpers has EVER established or maintained rights. lethal threat is the only thing that tyrants and criminal thugs have ever understood/respected, and nothing about this will ever change. You disarm at the risk of your life and your honor.

 

[danielpalos]

"Militia" simply means "group of armed civilians". Historically there have been city, county, state, private, and national militias.
It does NOT state that the unorganized militia cannot be considered well regulated. It does NOT state that the militia of the United States is the only militia there is or can be and there most certainly have been, and presently are, others.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,..."

Free state; not United States.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms..."

Not the right of the militia, the state, or of the Nation. The people. The individual people as the term is used throughout the Constitution. If you want it to mean something else you'll have to amend the Constitution. Good luck.

BTW- The SC agrees with me.

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law. 10USC311 applies. Next.

 

[danielpalos]

Individuals have rights. States may have authority; not rights.

Maybe you missed "..right of the people.." part.

States have rights in relation to the general government of the Union as declared in our Tenth Amendment.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free Sate not individual rights in private property since Arms for the Militia of the United States are declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8--To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10USC311--10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes -
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Not All of the Militia of the United States is well regulated; Only well regulated Militias are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.

Only our federal Congress can prescribe wellness of regulation for the Militia of the United States.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Me thinks you ain't got a clue.

No weapons are socialized.
The US federal govt may arm the militia. However it also may not arm the militia. So, the militia needs arms in times when A) the govt is tyrannical and B) is not being armed.

So, the 2A is there so there is a ready supply of weapons apart from any government control.

I cited our supreme law of the land; all you have is obsolete propaganda and rhetoric.