President Trump BOLDLY walked up St. John's Church with a Bible in his hand.

[Correll]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

I would have supported him raising the Bible as he left a service.

Got it. So, when you made a point about him not attending services regularly, that was not your real reason for not supporting him.

I never pretended it was. I have never supported him.

Why do you libs keep doing that? WHat are your real reasons for opposing the President on EVERYTHING, including NOT BURNING CHURCHES?


You are sick.

Under Trump (and past presidents) we have destroyed many a church. That's one big reason why.

When you bring up a complain, in a discussion thread like this, it implies that that is a reason for your position.


But, it more and more I realize that it never is, at least with you guys.


We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.


How many people do you want to see die?

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

 

[pknopp]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

I would have supported him raising the Bible as he left a service.

Got it. So, when you made a point about him not attending services regularly, that was not your real reason for not supporting him.

I never pretended it was. I have never supported him.

Why do you libs keep doing that? WHat are your real reasons for opposing the President on EVERYTHING, including NOT BURNING CHURCHES?


You are sick.

Under Trump (and past presidents) we have destroyed many a church. That's one big reason why.

When you bring up a complain, in a discussion thread like this, it implies that that is a reason for your position.


But, it more and more I realize that it never is, at least with you guys.


We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.


How many people do you want to see die?

Fewer than any president of note. All lives matter, right?

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

sociopaths such as donny are incapable of empathy.

Said the troll.

no troll, no troll; no YOU'RE the troll.... you're the troll.

people who are empathetic don't brag about jobs numbers & claim someone who was just murdered, witnessed by the entire world

as ' looking down & smiling at what a great day it is for him '

seriously CB - - - how you gonna spin that?

You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

Yeah, the bishop is one of you people. We knew that.


My point stands.


You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

^^^ translation: cartoon boy is a resident of donny's colon.

I made a real point. YOu just threw shit like a fucking monkey.

no you really didn't except that you will defend donny untli he croaks or you do.

either way works for ya, right?

 

[Correll]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.


.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.

Unity is a two way street.

Perhaps if you held the posters I quoted (and you deleted) accountable for their words with the same tenacity with which you complain about those who dare to criticize Trump, you could be taken seriously.

Right now, all you can really see is one side of this. Zero empathy, just like Trump.

I'm not asking you to disavow some list of anti-white racists before I accept your support on the controversial stance of NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Rightwinger is actually quite racist against whites. Have I every shoved quotes from him in your face and demanded that you do "hold him accountable" for his misdeeds?


You have choices and you make them, and then find reasons for them afterwards.


Your side is choosing to tear America apart.


People are dying in the streets and you are continuing to refuse to unite on ANYTHING.


You do realize that this will only get worse, if you continue to do more of the same, right?

Look at all that deflection.

You absolutely refuse to hold your side accountable. I'm not afraid to hold my side accountable.

You're not to be taken seriously.

No deflection. YOu made a point, and I addressed it seriously and honestly.


You are supporting division to the point that you can't support Trump on NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Unity does not require complete agreement or satisfaction on all issues. If so, unity would never occur.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

View attachment 344805

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

View attachment 345431

It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

 

[Mac1958]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.


.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.

Unity is a two way street.

Perhaps if you held the posters I quoted (and you deleted) accountable for their words with the same tenacity with which you complain about those who dare to criticize Trump, you could be taken seriously.

Right now, all you can really see is one side of this. Zero empathy, just like Trump.

I'm not asking you to disavow some list of anti-white racists before I accept your support on the controversial stance of NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Rightwinger is actually quite racist against whites. Have I every shoved quotes from him in your face and demanded that you do "hold him accountable" for his misdeeds?


You have choices and you make them, and then find reasons for them afterwards.


Your side is choosing to tear America apart.


People are dying in the streets and you are continuing to refuse to unite on ANYTHING.


You do realize that this will only get worse, if you continue to do more of the same, right?

Look at all that deflection.

You absolutely refuse to hold your side accountable. I'm not afraid to hold my side accountable.

You're not to be taken seriously.

No deflection. YOu made a point, and I addressed it seriously and honestly.


You are supporting division to the point that you can't support Trump on NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Unity does not require complete agreement or satisfaction on all issues. If so, unity would never occur.

Get back to me when you're willing to hold your side accountable.

Starting with those Trumpsters I quoted, and going from there.

I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Correll]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

I would have supported him raising the Bible as he left a service.

Got it. So, when you made a point about him not attending services regularly, that was not your real reason for not supporting him.

I never pretended it was. I have never supported him.

Why do you libs keep doing that? WHat are your real reasons for opposing the President on EVERYTHING, including NOT BURNING CHURCHES?


You are sick.

Under Trump (and past presidents) we have destroyed many a church. That's one big reason why.

When you bring up a complain, in a discussion thread like this, it implies that that is a reason for your position.


But, it more and more I realize that it never is, at least with you guys.


We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.


How many people do you want to see die?

Fewer than any president of note. All lives matter, right?

We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.

 

[Weatherman2020]

His idea to send out the military to shoot rubber bullets and tear gas at PEACEFUL demonstrators, who had another hour before curfew set in, so he could clear the streets for his walk to st John's church, and photo op of awkwardly holding up someone else's Bible was the most repulsive action I've ever witnessed.... and it was anti Christ.

He's out of control.....evil.....every inch of him..... sad, his cult can't see this....

If it were not against the law, I'd spit on him....with the biggest gob I could muster.

I had no idea throwing rocks and bricks at people was peaceful. What’s your address, I want to come make peace with you and your family.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

sociopaths such as donny are incapable of empathy.

Said the troll.

no troll, no troll; no YOU'RE the troll.... you're the troll.

people who are empathetic don't brag about jobs numbers & claim someone who was just murdered, witnessed by the entire world

as ' looking down & smiling at what a great day it is for him '

seriously CB - - - how you gonna spin that?

You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

Yeah, the bishop is one of you people. We knew that.


My point stands.


You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

^^^ translation: cartoon boy is a resident of donny's colon.

I made a real point. YOu just threw shit like a fucking monkey.

no you really didn't except that you will defend donny untli he croaks or you do.

either way works for ya, right?

My point stands.


You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

 

[Correll]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.


.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.

Unity is a two way street.

Perhaps if you held the posters I quoted (and you deleted) accountable for their words with the same tenacity with which you complain about those who dare to criticize Trump, you could be taken seriously.

Right now, all you can really see is one side of this. Zero empathy, just like Trump.

I'm not asking you to disavow some list of anti-white racists before I accept your support on the controversial stance of NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Rightwinger is actually quite racist against whites. Have I every shoved quotes from him in your face and demanded that you do "hold him accountable" for his misdeeds?


You have choices and you make them, and then find reasons for them afterwards.


Your side is choosing to tear America apart.


People are dying in the streets and you are continuing to refuse to unite on ANYTHING.


You do realize that this will only get worse, if you continue to do more of the same, right?

Look at all that deflection.

You absolutely refuse to hold your side accountable. I'm not afraid to hold my side accountable.

You're not to be taken seriously.

No deflection. YOu made a point, and I addressed it seriously and honestly.


You are supporting division to the point that you can't support Trump on NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Unity does not require complete agreement or satisfaction on all issues. If so, unity would never occur.

Get back to me when you're willing to hold your side accountable.

Starting with those Trumpsters I quoted, and going from there.

I won't be holding my breath.

I hope the violence your side's division has sparked, stays away from you and anyone you know personally.


Good luck.

 

[pknopp]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

I would have supported him raising the Bible as he left a service.

Got it. So, when you made a point about him not attending services regularly, that was not your real reason for not supporting him.

I never pretended it was. I have never supported him.

Why do you libs keep doing that? WHat are your real reasons for opposing the President on EVERYTHING, including NOT BURNING CHURCHES?


You are sick.

Under Trump (and past presidents) we have destroyed many a church. That's one big reason why.

When you bring up a complain, in a discussion thread like this, it implies that that is a reason for your position.


But, it more and more I realize that it never is, at least with you guys.


We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.


How many people do you want to see die?

Fewer than any president of note. All lives matter, right?

We have not destroyed "many a church". There is not "one big reason why",


You are just repeating divisive lies, designed to put Americans at each others throats.

Unfortunately most Americans support the destruction we have caused.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I didn’t bring Jesus in you retard this whole discussion is about events that happened at a church and comments made by the priest and bishop of that Church. Based on your great internet news sources, you have concluded they are all left wing nuts lying for a political agenda. If you weren’t drunk on Trump you’d see how Idiotic you sound.

You actually DID bring Jesus into this and even tried to expound on his take on racism, which is stupid
because racism is a modern concept and doesn't even exist in the bible. But you are a moron and admitted you don't like religion and don't care about it, so who is surprised you tried to explain what Jesus taught in
the bible anyway?

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You’re using meaningless insults and avoiding countering my argument so if you’re trying to make a relevant point then no, you aren’t using the right words.

Insults about you are instructive and cannot be meaningless so why would I avoid countering your argument
except to mercifully drop a point that isn't worth my time to quibble over (like how I use the word allude).
I'm not using the "right words"? Which right words? You mean now or forevermore?
That's an open ended ill defined claim that only once again shows how dumb you are.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

^ 'I only know what I read on the internet'

that's yer problem. you don't bother to research what you read - - - to make sure you have factual truth. not alternative facts that want you to believe the fake news that keeps you faithful to trump.

that's why donny loves the poorly educated long time.

You have no idea if I research and go to multiple sources or not. Show me the news source that always has
the "factual truth". Spoken like a real dim bulb.

 

[anynameyouwish]

OP; You ask what purpose was holding up the Bible, it was a checkmate move, to clever for the MSM to notice they were being traped in a corner by their despise of religious liberties which he was signing about the same day.

But that fake news story people were bombarded with to counter Trumps chess move has made a fool of them and the DC Bishop they used.
Per my post in the Theology forum:
I point out that the complaint they pushed on Trump is what the MSM ended up doing all day.
You see, they made the Bishop a photo opp for political tactic.
Today's MSM narrative on
CNBC, MSNBC, & CNN was to use an unwitting DC Bishop The Rev Mariann Budde as a photo op political deflection and canceling agent against Trump standing up for religious freedom and protection of it's properties.
Her beef blasted all over fake news was that she considered the presidents stop at the arch dioceses as political posteuring, forgeting it was a marker of a special occasion 100th anniversary of the Birth of Pope John Paul ll hence photo with statue honoring the Pope and MSM was not gonna correct her by pointing that out, instead they used her as a pawn the way she claimed the president was doing with his memorializing.
But this abuse of a unsuspecting Bishop gets worse. Her whole beef derived by believing the president should have brought up the situation that he already did in a few speeches, one being a very eliquent speech during his Nasa briefing that MSNBC and CNN purposely censored coverage of. So in a way they let this bishop believe Trump never had this serious conversation nor support for the people even though he helped with the rush on the conviction. They lied to her by what obviously is her source of news being the ones keeping info from her, then not telling her the truth about the Presidents speech, so she looked like an idiot on all the networks=used her as a political stunt.

She became what she thought the church was being used for.=irony at it's finest.
Rev Mariann Budde you've been duped by your news source-congrats you are offically part of the TDS brought on by the media puppeteers.

nonsense


deranged BS


you are suffering from TDS....

trump disrespects the people, the flag, the constitution and the country on a DAILY/HOURLY basis...


we need to get that SONOFABITCH out of the white house

and then we can deal with the human garbage who elected him.....

history isn't kind to collaborators

we'll get ALL of you sonsofbitches OFF our American playing field....

 

[HaShev]

OP; You ask what purpose was holding up the Bible, it was a checkmate move, to clever for the MSM to notice they were being traped in a corner by their despise of religious liberties which he was signing about the same day.

But that fake news story people were bombarded with to counter Trumps chess move has made a fool of them and the DC Bishop they used.
Per my post in the Theology forum:
I point out that the complaint they pushed on Trump is what the MSM ended up doing all day.
You see, they made the Bishop a photo opp for political tactic.
Today's MSM narrative on
CNBC, MSNBC, & CNN was to use an unwitting DC Bishop The Rev Mariann Budde as a photo op political deflection and canceling agent against Trump standing up for religious freedom and protection of it's properties.
Her beef blasted all over fake news was that she considered the presidents stop at the arch dioceses as political posteuring, forgeting it was a marker of a special occasion 100th anniversary of the Birth of Pope John Paul ll hence photo with statue honoring the Pope and MSM was not gonna correct her by pointing that out, instead they used her as a pawn the way she claimed the president was doing with his memorializing.
But this abuse of a unsuspecting Bishop gets worse. Her whole beef derived by believing the president should have brought up the situation that he already did in a few speeches, one being a very eliquent speech during his Nasa briefing that MSNBC and CNN purposely censored coverage of. So in a way they let this bishop believe Trump never had this serious conversation nor support for the people even though he helped with the rush on the conviction. They lied to her by what obviously is her source of news being the ones keeping info from her, then not telling her the truth about the Presidents speech, so she looked like an idiot on all the networks=used her as a political stunt.

She became what she thought the church was being used for.=irony at it's finest.
Rev Mariann Budde you've been duped by your news source-congrats you are offically part of the TDS brought on by the media puppeteers.

nonsense


deranged BS


you are suffering from TDS....

trump disrespects the people, the flag, the constitution and the country on a DAILY/HOURLY basis...


we need to get that SONOFABITCH out of the white house

and then we can deal with the human garbage who elected him.....

history isn't kind to collaborators

we'll get ALL of you sonsofbitches OFF our American playing field....

Biden had 44 years in Senate and as VP to do what he claims he'll do now.
So go vote for your procrastinator, and see how that works out.

 

[Slade3200]

I didn’t bring Jesus in you retard this whole discussion is about events that happened at a church and comments made by the priest and bishop of that Church. Based on your great internet news sources, you have concluded they are all left wing nuts lying for a political agenda. If you weren’t drunk on Trump you’d see how Idiotic you sound.

You actually DID bring Jesus into this and even tried to expound on his take on racism, which is stupid
because racism is a modern concept and doesn't even exist in the bible. But you are a moron and admitted you don't like religion and don't care about it, so who is surprised you tried to explain what Jesus taught in
the bible anyway?

Keep digging dude and making the case that Jesus is fine with racism. It’s just making you sound like more of an idiot.

 

[Slade3200]

You’re using meaningless insults and avoiding countering my argument so if you’re trying to make a relevant point then no, you aren’t using the right words.

Insults about you are instructive and cannot be meaningless so why would I avoid countering your argument
except to mercifully drop a point that isn't worth my time to quibble over (like how I use the word allude).
I'm not using the "right words"? Which right words? You mean now or forevermore?
That's an open ended ill defined claim that only once again shows how dumb you are.

Your words show your dishonesty and spin tactics. Don’t get butthurt that I’m pointing it out. I hate to ruin the surprise but your tactics are painfully obvious. You’re not fooling anybody.

You try and make the point that Church officials lied about the fire. I point out clear as day that the church rector spoke openly and honestly about the fire. So now he was “alluding” to the fire in your pathetic spun up narrative. You are like a child trying to cover up a lie just going deeper down the rabbit hole. Haha what a joke!