President Trump BOLDLY walked up St. John's Church with a Bible in his hand.

[Correll]

So Trump stands in front of the church with a stern look on his face, holding up someone's Bible, upside down, and the conned melt in adoration.

No, we didn't.

Look at what they've done: He didn't give a speech of healing. He just stood there, and the conned just imagined everything he was saying.

Nope. You people flipped out, and we are responding to your attacks. It was a lefty that started this thread, to attack Trump and Trump supporters. That is why you are in this thread. I find the idea of not burning churches to be a no brainer. I don't really care what Trump said or did or did not say on it. This is about your hysteria.

He's had plenty of time to prepare and give a speech on this, but he knows he's only allowed to blame one side of the issue for any of it.

This is the Presidency right now. What an ugly time.

You've admitted that you stopped listening. For all you know, he has said such things.


Indeed, even when you were listening, were you really listening?

Looking forward to the links.

Links for what? For us NOT melting in adoration? To this thread, where you libs are attacking Trump? For where you admitted that you stopped listening?

Just referencing your comment, "for all you know, he has said such things". I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Looking forward to the links of him bringing us ALL together.

YOu really read, "for all you know" and take that to mean that I have a list in my mind?


In normal discourse, such a phrase is meant to show that the speaker, (me) does NOT have the information either.


In this case, because I don't care about what Trump said on the issue any more than you do.


FOr example, I was against burning churches last week, and Trump's message on it, whatever it was in it's entirety, is irrelevant to me.


Sort of like for you. YOu are against Trump and Trump; supporters. To the point that if he puts out a DONT' BURN CHURCHES message you attack him for it.



Neither one of us care about what he specifically said. That was my point.


THis is not about Trump.

This is about your sides choice to be divisive. Nothing we over here, can do about your choices.

Correct. This is not about Trump. He's just one person, and a symptom of something much larger.

Anyway, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything.

You are constantly misrepresenting what we say and do. Which is wrong of you.


No con is melting in adoration of Trump, for having a photo op.


If you believed that when you wrote it, you are literally losing touch with reality.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

You are assuming the worst motives based on nothing but your own hate. You are the problem.

I’m assuming motives based on observation and common sense. I don’t hate Trump

Trump carried a bible to stand in front of a burned church, and speak against burning churches and you attack him as though he is being divisive? Or pandering?

You are insane. Literally insane.

Trump's bombs have destroyed countless church's.

Your insane justification for attack Trump's Don't Burn Churches stance, is noted.


Stop being crazy. Stop dragging us down with you.

If Trump was simply out there standing up for the Church then why did the leaders of that church come out so hard against what he did? They’re were disgusted and dumbfounded at the situation. You’re painting a false narrative and it is painfully obvious. You should not be calling others insane.

Because they are so full of hate and their desire to divide America as part of advancing the lib agenda.


Trump took a stand against burning churches and you people are attacking him for it.


This is really happening. This is what you people have become.


Trump is not the problem. YOU are.


YOur hate.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

You are assuming the worst motives based on nothing but your own hate. You are the problem.

I’m assuming motives based on observation and common sense. I don’t hate Trump

Trump carried a bible to stand in front of a burned church, and speak against burning churches and you attack him as though he is being divisive? Or pandering?

You are insane. Literally insane.

Trump's bombs have destroyed countless church's.

Your insane justification for attack Trump's Don't Burn Churches stance, is noted.


Stop being crazy. Stop dragging us down with you.

If Trump was simply out there standing up for the Church then why did the leaders of that church come out so hard against what he did? They’re were disgusted and dumbfounded at the situation. You’re painting a false narrative and it is painfully obvious. You should not be calling others insane.

That's the pathology. Trump didn't even make a strong statement to bring people together. He just stood there, holding up somebody's Bible upside down, with a stern look on his face. So the flock had to read into what he was doing, and they decided it was wonderful.

40% of the country thought it was fantastic. The rest of us who saw it were insulted and embarrassed for our country. Again.

You could have let it pass. Gave it a nod, something like "sure, burning churches bad" and then disagreed with Trump on how to respond the next day.

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.


This is not about Trump doing anything. No matter what he does, you people will choose to divide.



Trump supporters? We support the President in NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


And you see this as something worthy to ridicule us for.


There is something wrong with you libs. DEEPLY, DEEPLY AND SERIOUSLY WRONG.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
View attachment 344684

Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

View attachment 344805

View attachment 344806

Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

View attachment 345431

It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

Wow you’re really going all in to this “he was just standing up for the church” defense. Please address the question I asked earlier about that. If all Trump was doing was standing up for the preservation of the Church then why did the Church leaders, who certainly have the preservation and safety as a priority, come out so hard against what Trump did?

I did. Because they are divisive anti-American asshole lefties.

No matter what Trump does or says, they will choose to divide America, everytime.


Just like you.

 

[Correll]

So Trump stands in front of the church with a stern look on his face, holding up someone's Bible, upside down, and the conned melt in adoration.

No, we didn't.

Look at what they've done: He didn't give a speech of healing. He just stood there, and the conned just imagined everything he was saying.

Nope. You people flipped out, and we are responding to your attacks. It was a lefty that started this thread, to attack Trump and Trump supporters. That is why you are in this thread. I find the idea of not burning churches to be a no brainer. I don't really care what Trump said or did or did not say on it. This is about your hysteria.

He's had plenty of time to prepare and give a speech on this, but he knows he's only allowed to blame one side of the issue for any of it.

This is the Presidency right now. What an ugly time.

You've admitted that you stopped listening. For all you know, he has said such things.


Indeed, even when you were listening, were you really listening?

Looking forward to the links.

Links for what? For us NOT melting in adoration? To this thread, where you libs are attacking Trump? For where you admitted that you stopped listening?

Just referencing your comment, "for all you know, he has said such things". I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Looking forward to the links of him bringing us ALL together.

YOu really read, "for all you know" and take that to mean that I have a list in my mind?


In normal discourse, such a phrase is meant to show that the speaker, (me) does NOT have the information either.


In this case, because I don't care about what Trump said on the issue any more than you do.


FOr example, I was against burning churches last week, and Trump's message on it, whatever it was in it's entirety, is irrelevant to me.


Sort of like for you. YOu are against Trump and Trump; supporters. To the point that if he puts out a DONT' BURN CHURCHES message you attack him for it.



Neither one of us care about what he specifically said. That was my point.


THis is not about Trump.

This is about your sides choice to be divisive. Nothing we over here, can do about your choices.

Wow, I can’t believe you just wrote that. You’ve been arguing that others are crazy for insulting Trump for an anti church burning message... you do this while ignoring everything else that people were actually upset about. And now you admit to not even knowIng and not caring what he actually said. I wish I could say I’m surprised but i’ve seen this willful ignorance around “Trump” issues for years now. It’s still pretty damn pathetic though.

I'm not ignoring their stated reasons. I've repeatedly pointed out that their stated reasons are bullshit.

As they are, and as you know.

No matter what Trump says or does, you people will choose to divide us.


YOu are the problem.

 

[Mac1958]

So Trump stands in front of the church with a stern look on his face, holding up someone's Bible, upside down, and the conned melt in adoration.

No, we didn't.

Look at what they've done: He didn't give a speech of healing. He just stood there, and the conned just imagined everything he was saying.

Nope. You people flipped out, and we are responding to your attacks. It was a lefty that started this thread, to attack Trump and Trump supporters. That is why you are in this thread. I find the idea of not burning churches to be a no brainer. I don't really care what Trump said or did or did not say on it. This is about your hysteria.

He's had plenty of time to prepare and give a speech on this, but he knows he's only allowed to blame one side of the issue for any of it.

This is the Presidency right now. What an ugly time.

You've admitted that you stopped listening. For all you know, he has said such things.


Indeed, even when you were listening, were you really listening?

Looking forward to the links.

Links for what? For us NOT melting in adoration? To this thread, where you libs are attacking Trump? For where you admitted that you stopped listening?

Just referencing your comment, "for all you know, he has said such things". I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Looking forward to the links of him bringing us ALL together.

YOu really read, "for all you know" and take that to mean that I have a list in my mind?


In normal discourse, such a phrase is meant to show that the speaker, (me) does NOT have the information either.


In this case, because I don't care about what Trump said on the issue any more than you do.


FOr example, I was against burning churches last week, and Trump's message on it, whatever it was in it's entirety, is irrelevant to me.


Sort of like for you. YOu are against Trump and Trump; supporters. To the point that if he puts out a DONT' BURN CHURCHES message you attack him for it.



Neither one of us care about what he specifically said. That was my point.


THis is not about Trump.

This is about your sides choice to be divisive. Nothing we over here, can do about your choices.

Correct. This is not about Trump. He's just one person, and a symptom of something much larger.

Anyway, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything.

You are constantly misrepresenting what we say and do. Which is wrong of you.


No con is melting in adoration of Trump, for having a photo op.


If you believed that when you wrote it, you are literally losing touch with reality.

It sure is a good thing my opinion doesn't require your approval!

Phew!

 

[Mac1958]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

There are African Americans and there is a special breed of animals...

 

[keepitreal]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

There are African Americans and there is a special breed of animals...

ROFLMFAO

I already know I'm a sinner but thanks for taking the time to point that out

 

[Correll]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

It's different when they do it. Because "reasons".

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

sociopaths such as donny are incapable of empathy.

Said the troll.

no troll, no troll; no YOU'RE the troll.... you're the troll.

people who are empathetic don't brag about jobs numbers & claim someone who was just murdered, witnessed by the entire world

as ' looking down & smiling at what a great day it is for him '

seriously CB - - - how you gonna spin that?

You are in a thread, attacking the President for taking a stand against Burning Churches.


You are the troll. YOu are the divider.


Spin? No spin needed. YOu are bat shit crazy.


Get better.

 

[playtime]

no troll, no troll; no YOU'RE the troll.... you're the troll.

The goal is to take the focus off the underlying problem by focusing on the violence only, changing the narrative and putting you on the defensive.

Wanting to change the subject is generally a sure sign that they know THEY have something to be defensive about.

This is what they are. This is the game.

donny had peaceful protesters exercising their 1st amendment right gassed & at least temporarily deafened for a photo op. that's a fact jack.

that's not changing the subject. but it is you making excuses & showing that you are ok with that.

 

[Correll]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
View attachment 344684

Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

View attachment 344805

View attachment 344806

Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

View attachment 345431

It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

View attachment 344805

View attachment 344806

Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

Ask the rector and bishop of the church who both were disgusted by what happened. Those who were peacefully protesting that were gased. If you’re still asking these questions then you are not paying attention to what ACTUALLY happened.

I ask you what he did, and I asked you to be specific.


IN response you point to some other people that are unhappy with him.


Do you even realize that you just demonstrated that your hate is making you blind?

I listed what he did many times. You’re playing dumb now. You know he gased a crowd to take the photo, you know he didn’t coordinate with the church at all, you know the list of things the churches staff has said about how he politicized the situation. Yet you ignore it all to troll and act stupid. Quit the act. It’s boring

Clearing the streets, when people are dying in the streets, is normal, mainstream behavior.


INdeed, in a saner and healthier society, he would be taking flak for NOT clearing the streets more aggressively.

But people weren’t dying in the streets that were cleared. People were praying and protesting with leaders from that very church. You keep lying about this situation. Why?

When people are dying in the streets at the hands of violent mobs, you clear the streets, you don't wait for each instance of violence and death.


D'uh.

Nobody was dying in the streets! Unless you’re proposing that we clear every street in America, screw the constitution. Either way you’re being an idiot.

Widespread unrest gets a widespread crackdown until people stop dying.


Clear the fucking streets.

there was NO UNREST AT ALL when donny played dictator, tear gassed those protesters - - - exercised their CONSTITUTIONAL right to do so.

does manhandling people of the cloth part of cleaning the streets too?

I acknowledge your rationalization for your attack. You, as always, choose to divide.


YOu can't even support DON'T BURN CHURCHES.


This is not about Trump. THere is something deeply wrong with you libs.

bullshit. & it wasn't MY attack you stupid fuck.

c'mon now ---- this is the perfect time to call me part of antifa again. who - - - btw, there is no evidence they are even involved this time around. but you know what evidence there is? rw torch bearing extremists.

I was obviously referring to your attack on the President, and his ANTI-CHURCH BURNING POSITION, your drooling retard.

Your attempt to play stupid to dodge my point is noted and dismissed.


My point stands.



I acknowledge your rationalization for your attack. You, as always, choose to divide.


YOu can't even support DON'T BURN CHURCHES.


This is not about Trump. THere is something deeply wrong with you libs.

you support a thug who used thug means for a fake stance.

 

[Correll]

So Trump stands in front of the church with a stern look on his face, holding up someone's Bible, upside down, and the conned melt in adoration.

No, we didn't.

Look at what they've done: He didn't give a speech of healing. He just stood there, and the conned just imagined everything he was saying.

Nope. You people flipped out, and we are responding to your attacks. It was a lefty that started this thread, to attack Trump and Trump supporters. That is why you are in this thread. I find the idea of not burning churches to be a no brainer. I don't really care what Trump said or did or did not say on it. This is about your hysteria.

He's had plenty of time to prepare and give a speech on this, but he knows he's only allowed to blame one side of the issue for any of it.

This is the Presidency right now. What an ugly time.

You've admitted that you stopped listening. For all you know, he has said such things.


Indeed, even when you were listening, were you really listening?

Looking forward to the links.

Links for what? For us NOT melting in adoration? To this thread, where you libs are attacking Trump? For where you admitted that you stopped listening?

Just referencing your comment, "for all you know, he has said such things". I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Looking forward to the links of him bringing us ALL together.

YOu really read, "for all you know" and take that to mean that I have a list in my mind?


In normal discourse, such a phrase is meant to show that the speaker, (me) does NOT have the information either.


In this case, because I don't care about what Trump said on the issue any more than you do.


FOr example, I was against burning churches last week, and Trump's message on it, whatever it was in it's entirety, is irrelevant to me.


Sort of like for you. YOu are against Trump and Trump; supporters. To the point that if he puts out a DONT' BURN CHURCHES message you attack him for it.



Neither one of us care about what he specifically said. That was my point.


THis is not about Trump.

This is about your sides choice to be divisive. Nothing we over here, can do about your choices.

Correct. This is not about Trump. He's just one person, and a symptom of something much larger.

Anyway, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything.

You are constantly misrepresenting what we say and do. Which is wrong of you.


No con is melting in adoration of Trump, for having a photo op.


If you believed that when you wrote it, you are literally losing touch with reality.

It sure is a good thing my opinion doesn't require your approval!

Phew!

You said we cons were "melting in adoration", in response to the photo op.


That is not just your "opinion", that is you lying about us.


Why are you doing that? Also it is wrong.

 

[Correll]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.


.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

You are assuming the worst motives based on nothing but your own hate. You are the problem.

I’m assuming motives based on observation and common sense. I don’t hate Trump

Trump carried a bible to stand in front of a burned church, and speak against burning churches and you attack him as though he is being divisive? Or pandering?

You are insane. Literally insane.

Trump's bombs have destroyed countless church's.

Your insane justification for attack Trump's Don't Burn Churches stance, is noted.


Stop being crazy. Stop dragging us down with you.

If Trump was simply out there standing up for the Church then why did the leaders of that church come out so hard against what he did? They’re were disgusted and dumbfounded at the situation. You’re painting a false narrative and it is painfully obvious. You should not be calling others insane.

That's the pathology. Trump didn't even make a strong statement to bring people together. He just stood there, holding up somebody's Bible upside down, with a stern look on his face. So the flock had to read into what he was doing, and they decided it was wonderful.

40% of the country thought it was fantastic. The rest of us who saw it were insulted and embarrassed for our country. Again.

you know - i'm beginning to think that when those 2 corinthians inspired donny to speak at liberty university - telling his crowd ( that was mandated to attend ) that the bible was his favorite book & he didn't bother to bring his OWN favorite book with him to that photo op....

he lied to them thar students.

 

[pknopp]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

Why? One was actually leaving a church service.

No, same photo opportunity, same church. Just Clinton just got busted lying under oath about a blowjob.

It was taken at the Foundry United Methodist Church after Clinton had attended. You can question the reasons but Clinton routinely attended church services.

Would you support Trump's photo op if he was attending services regularly?

I would have supported him raising the Bible as he left a service.

 

[Mac1958]

But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.

"Unity"

From a Trumpster.


.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.

Unity is a two way street.

Perhaps if you held the posters I quoted (and you deleted) accountable for their words with the same tenacity with which you complain about those who dare to criticize Trump, you could be taken seriously.

Right now, all you can really see is one side of this. Zero empathy, just like Trump.

 

[playtime]

I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like he got caught using a Bible as a prop, and blew off the question.


Why are you acting like that is a big deal?

I believe we're allowed to start threads that are not a "big deal" if we choose.

But I've gotten pretty much what I was expecting, so it's been a good thread.

Good thing I don't need anyone's approval.

Of course you are allowed to do it. I asked WHY. And you shockingly, did not answer.


Do you remember when I pointed out to you, that the end of talking left only violence as a way of addressing conflict?

The reason for starting the thread is obvious. To see If and how Trump supporters defend actions that OP deemed inappropriate. The real question is why people enter the thread and avoid answering simple questions.

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Tell me are they both wrong?

It's different when they do it. Because "reasons".

it's differant when you do it. because 'irony'.