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Price of Electricity Hit Record High in U.S. in 2014

Obama sticking it to the American people again, as he forces coal fired power plants out of buisness:mad:

ANNUAL%20ELECTRICITY%20PRICE%20INDEX-2013-2014-PHOTO.jpg


Data released today by the BLS indicates that the electricity price indexes hit all-time highs for the month of December and for the year. 2014 was the most-expensive year ever for electricity in the United States

Price of Electricity Hit Record High in U.S. in 2014 CNS News
Yep, all utilities are more expensive. And, you can add food, rent, and health care to the list as well. The cost of living continues to rise, and pay checks can't keep pace. But, we are paying less for gasoline, which is a huge blessing.

Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
 
Obama sticking it to the American people again, as he forces coal fired power plants out of buisness:mad:

ANNUAL%20ELECTRICITY%20PRICE%20INDEX-2013-2014-PHOTO.jpg


Price of Electricity Hit Record High in U.S. in 2014 CNS News
Yep, all utilities are more expensive. And, you can add food, rent, and health care to the list as well. The cost of living continues to rise, and pay checks can't keep pace. But, we are paying less for gasoline, which is a huge blessing.

Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
I am not saying the oil companies are not profitable.

I just offered my opinion in regard to what drives them to make certain decisions. It is not greed by the street definition that usually includes "will kill his own mother to satisfy his greed"....it is simply companies maturing and learning how to streamline during the more difficult times and applying that education and business philosophy to prosperous times.

Like all of us do as I demonstrated with the gardener example.
 
Yep, all utilities are more expensive. And, you can add food, rent, and health care to the list as well. The cost of living continues to rise, and pay checks can't keep pace. But, we are paying less for gasoline, which is a huge blessing.

Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
I am not saying the oil companies are not profitable.

I just offered my opinion in regard to what drives them to make certain decisions. It is not greed by the street definition that usually includes "will kill his own mother to satisfy his greed"....it is simply companies maturing and learning how to streamline during the more difficult times and applying that education and business philosophy to prosperous times.

Like all of us do as I demonstrated with the gardener example.
I understand. Point taken. Thanks. I was only saying they are not going broke and can remain profitable without $80.00 a barrel oil.
 
Obama sticking it to the American people again, as he forces coal fired power plants out of buisness:mad:

ANNUAL%20ELECTRICITY%20PRICE%20INDEX-2013-2014-PHOTO.jpg


Price of Electricity Hit Record High in U.S. in 2014 CNS News
Yep, all utilities are more expensive. And, you can add food, rent, and health care to the list as well. The cost of living continues to rise, and pay checks can't keep pace. But, we are paying less for gasoline, which is a huge blessing.

Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
 
Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
I am not saying the oil companies are not profitable.

I just offered my opinion in regard to what drives them to make certain decisions. It is not greed by the street definition that usually includes "will kill his own mother to satisfy his greed"....it is simply companies maturing and learning how to streamline during the more difficult times and applying that education and business philosophy to prosperous times.

Like all of us do as I demonstrated with the gardener example.
I understand. Point taken. Thanks. I was only saying they are not going broke and can remain profitable without $80.00 a barrel oil.
absolutely not. The price per barrel simply dictates how many rigs they should operate to maintain a profit margin that satisfies the stock holders.
 
Yep, all utilities are more expensive. And, you can add food, rent, and health care to the list as well. The cost of living continues to rise, and pay checks can't keep pace. But, we are paying less for gasoline, which is a huge blessing.

Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.
 
the price of utilities is sure to come down. The Republican Congress will make sure that happens in the near future. Everyone write their Congressman and tell them to make it affordable for people to pay their bills ... then hold your damn breath and DIE before that ever happens.

stupid F'n RW's.
 
Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.


Do you want politicians to decide what fair is? who decides what is fair?
 
Agree with everything except for the fuel "blessing." The price of fuel has been forced down by OPEC to keep America from drilling offshore or building the Keystone Pipeline. We need to become less dependent on OPEC and we need to put Americans to work in good paying jobs. So ... it's a "blessing" in some respects but in the long run ... Americans are getting screwed when we look at the bigger picture.
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.
This is true. Sonny is a realist...by no means a socialist. Not as I have sensed by any of his/her posts.

I think when you used the term "greed" in your post, it was taken out of context. Greed, nowadays implys "evil"...when, in fact, greed is the desire to make a profit...something we all should have.
 
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.


Do you want politicians to decide what fair is? who decides what is fair?
for me?

ONLY my conscience.
 
the price of utilities is sure to come down. The Republican Congress will make sure that happens in the near future. Everyone write their Congressman and tell them to make it affordable for people to pay their bills ... then hold your damn breath and DIE before that ever happens.

stupid F'n RW's.

The EPA new regulations are what is increase the cost of electricity. Obama's plan at work sticking it to the "middle class" again :mad:
 
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.
This is true. Sonny is a realist...by no means a socialist. Not as I have sensed by any of his/her posts.

I think when you used the term "greed" in your post, it was taken out of context. Greed, nowadays implys "evil"...when, in fact, greed is the desire to make a profit...something we all should have.

 
If demand were fall then prices would fall.

So, liberals, turn off those computers and light a candle.
 
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.


Do you want politicians to decide what fair is? who decides what is fair?
I believe consumers should decide what's fair via their buying power. But, in cases where there're business monopolies controlling necessities, I believe that the government should look into their business practices, and act accordingly. I do not believe in government control of business America, unless unfair advantage is directed towards the general public. Again, this only applies to monopolies where consumers have little or no choice. Also, my opinion only concerns commodities commonly considered as necessities.
 
It doesn't require $4.00 per gallon gas in order for big oil to make a profit and employ people. Back when gas was selling for over $4.00 a gallon, big oil was making $13Billion per quarter in profit. So, you're saying that if they're only making $7Billion per quarter in profit, jobs will be lost, businesses will go under, and the economy will collapse? FYI - It cost big oil the same to get the oil out of the ground whether they sell it for $115 per barrel or $50 per barrel. When the price of oil is extremely high, do they give the consumers a break? The answer is NO. Back when gasoline was over $5.00 a gallon in some states, top oil company execs were called to testify before members of Congress to explain the high cost to consumers. One exec, I believe it was a lady representing Exxon, said that their responsibility was to make as much money as possible for the stock holders, and not how cheap they could sell gas to the consumer.

Don't kid yourself, big oil is making tons of money. If people lose their jobs, it's because GREED is king.
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.
This is true. Sonny is a realist...by no means a socialist. Not as I have sensed by any of his/her posts.

I think when you used the term "greed" in your post, it was taken out of context. Greed, nowadays implys "evil"...when, in fact, greed is the desire to make a profit...something we all should have.
Thanks for your response, much appreciated. To me, GREED is excessive pricing due to the fact that one can get away with it. In other words, when there are no restrictions, either through consumer demand ( buying power ), or through government regulations and fair pricing laws, businesses often take unfair advantage of their position in commerce.

An example would be a hospital that charges $5.00 for an aspirin that anyone can buy by the bottle of 200 tablets for under $2.00. At some point pricing must be based on "fair" as opposed to "greed". To me, it falls in the category of the old saying, "because one can do wrong and get away with it, it doesn't make it right".
 
I see. Obama is responsible for rising electricity prices but NOT for falling oil prices.

Okay. We get it. We get it.
 
Actually, it is much more complicated than that.

Fluctuations in supply and/or demand is what kills the jobs....not greed.

It is like that in all industries...and why we have recessions every 4 years or so.

When the market is rich, the companies invest in new technology as well as additional employees. When demand decreases (or supply increases), the technology must stay for it is paid for, but the additional employees are let go. Then, while in a recession, companies have the opportunity to apply their new technology in the most efficient way possible...and when demand increases again, they realize the new technology can cover the new demand...so no need to hire additional emploiyees..

Call it greed if you wish.....but if during hard times, you fired your gardener and bought a lawnmower...and while using it, you realized it was simple job and not worth the money to rehire the gardener....wouldnt you not rehire the gardener when times were good again?

Is it because you are greedy....or just wiser?
List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

ExxonMobil - 5.3 million barrels per day - In Photos The World s 25 Biggest Oil Companies - Forbes

With Only 93 Billion in Profits the Big Five Oil Companies Demand to Keep Tax Breaks Center for American Progress

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Overview - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International

Big Oil s most profitable quarter ever 51.5 billion - ABC News
the government doesn't send oil companies money understand? "subsidies" are tax breaks for risk and only small companies recieve those tax breaks not large companies anymore and those are worldwide profits. Socialist don't like profit much.... You must be one
No, not at all. I'm certainly NOT a socialist by any definition. I never hold it against a company for making a profit, never. I believe ever business should make a fair profit. Profit is what keeps businesses in business. I know of no one that wants businesses to go bankrupt and create unemployment. I think you misunderstood my points.
This is true. Sonny is a realist...by no means a socialist. Not as I have sensed by any of his/her posts.

I think when you used the term "greed" in your post, it was taken out of context. Greed, nowadays implys "evil"...when, in fact, greed is the desire to make a profit...something we all should have.
Thanks for your response, much appreciated. To me, GREED is excessive pricing due to the fact that one can get away with it. In other words, when there are no restrictions, either through consumer demand ( buying power ), or through government regulations and fair pricing laws, businesses often take unfair advantage of their position in commerce.

An example would be a hospital that charges $5.00 for an aspirin that anyone can buy by the bottle of 200 tablets for under $2.00. At some point pricing must be based on "fair" as opposed to "greed". To me, it falls in the category of the old saying, "because one can do wrong and get away with it, it doesn't make it right".
In retrospect, I agree with your definition of greed...It is more than just the desire to make a profit...it is the willingness to compromise ones ethics to make a profit.
 
the price of utilities is sure to come down. The Republican Congress will make sure that happens in the near future. Everyone write their Congressman and tell them to make it affordable for people to pay their bills ... then hold your damn breath and DIE before that ever happens.

stupid F'n RW's.

The EPA new regulations are what is increase the cost of electricity. Obama's plan at work sticking it to the "middle class" again :mad:

Obama's plan huh?

tell ya what Goober, name one piece of legislation Obama signed into law regarding utility prices without said law making it through both houses of congress, and I won't call you stupid any more ..

I'll wait, stupid.

this is the part where stupid RW's become crickets and morons keep yammering about Obama's "plan" )
 
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Rising electric prices? Yeah, he wanted that and he got that.

Falling fuel prices? He set out to make them soar so recent decreases show him to have, once again, failed.

Now He's out to make taxes soar and perhaps start a new recession.

Want HJim to succeed?

Or do you want Him to fail?

Choose one, don't write sermons.
 
the price of utilities is sure to come down. The Republican Congress will make sure that happens in the near future. Everyone write their Congressman and tell them to make it affordable for people to pay their bills ... then hold your damn breath and DIE before that ever happens.

stupid F'n RW's.

The EPA new regulations are what is increase the cost of electricity. Obama's plan at work sticking it to the "middle class" again :mad:

Obama's plan huh?

tell ya what Goober, name one piece of legislation Obama signed into law regarding utility prices without said law making it through both houses of congress, and I won't call you stupid any more ..

I'll wait, stupid.
EPA regulations don't go through congress genius
 

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