Pro-choice at record low...41 percent.

[BDBoop]

Not for your baby, that's for sure.

Snappy!! What a witty comeback!

 

[BDBoop]

By the way, my baby is 31 and having babies of her own.

 

[g5000]

"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%

More data from that poll here: Abortion

Most interesting question:

Now I am going to read some specific situations under which an abortion might be considered in the FIRST THREE MONTHS of pregnancy. Thinking specifically about the FIRST trimester, please say whether you think abortion should be legal in that situation, or illegal. How about ... [RANDOM ORDER]?

The majority were willing to make exceptions for rape or incest, or mother's health, or a life-threatening illness for the child. But those are a tiny fraction of all abortions.

When it comes to any other reason for an abortion, 56 percent were opposed. Only 41 percent were okay with it.

First trimester.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

Koser stated that a no fault divorce was one of the reason abortion rates have gone up. That's where I made the connection. That there a a fair number of people out there who discourage abortion while they get married and divorced left and right. I honestly don't see much of a connection between the two. It's tenuous at best. But that was my counter...

Thanks. I don't see the connection either. I don't condone divorce but I'd rather be a kid who has a chance to experience life in the first place, even if my parents are not together.

Uh, no I didn't state that no fault divorce was a reason abortion rates have gone up.

This is why you people are so easily led. You make shit up, and you believe it. Kinsey and his Nazi friends counted on that..and they were right to.

I'm sorry, were you responding to me? I never said you made that connection. I was asking GX if SHE was making that connection. I haven't been called a Nazi in weeks thought! I'll have to work on my goose step.

 

[g5000]

Roe v. Wade allows for abortions in the second and third trimesters of pregnancy to be regulated by the states.

So a declining numbe of pro-choice people will have a profound effect on abortion laws in our country.

That bears repeating for those who think public opinion doesn't matter in the face of Roe v Wade. They are quite mistaken.

Roe v. Wade allows for abortions in the second and third trimesters to be regulated by state laws.

So those ultrasound laws? Constitutional.

Those laws requiring the mother to see the fetus before it is killed? Constitutional.

And you can expect more of them, since pro-choice is on the decline.

 

[gxnelson]

This is in reply to me stating that abortion rates have gone up because of culture change.

The culture has changed because we are teaching children that they are expected to have sex, because we have de-criminalized rape and other sex offenses, and we have encouraged promiscuity and no-fault divorce...all based on Kinsey's fake research. Try again.

Where did I misread that no-fault divorce wasn't a factor (for you) in increase abortion rates?

your logic: no-fault divorce, leads to, children expected to have sex, leads to, increased abortion rates.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

No brain, no person. Sorry.

Good job. Categorically deny your child was alive so you can live with yourself for killing it. It might sound good on a message board but that little, innocent voice you hear at night before you go to sleep will be with you forever. Just don't think about those pangs of guilt.

There's nothing to live with.

Insert your own dates.....

Diary of an Unborn Child

OCTOBER 5:
Today my life began. My parents do not know it yet, but it is I already. And I am to be a girl. I shall have blond hair and blue eyes. Just about everything is settled though, even the fact that I shall love flowers.
OCTOBER 19:
Some say that I am not a real person yet, that only my mother exists. But I am a real person, just as a small crumb of bread is yet truly bread. My mother is. And I am.
OCTOBER 23:
My mouth is just beginning to open now. Just think, in a year or so I shall be laughing and later talking. I know what my first word will be: MAMA.
OCTOBER 25:
My heart began to beat today all by itself. From now on it shall gently beat for the rest of my life without ever stopping to rest! And after many years it will tire. It will stop, and then I shall die.
NOVEMBER 2:
I am growing a bit every day. My arms and legs are beginning to take shape. But I have to wait a long time yet before those little legs will raise me
NOVEMBER 12:

Tiny fingers are beginning to form on my hands. Funny how small they are! I’ll be able to stroke my mother’s hair with them.

NOVEMBER 20:

It wasn’t until today that the doctor told mom that I am living here under her heart. Oh, how happy she must be! Are you happy, mom?

NOVEMBER 25:

My mom and dad are probably thinking about a name for me. But they don’t even know that I am a little girl. I want to be called Kathy. I am getting so big already.

DECEMBER 10:

My hair is growing. It is smooth and bright and shiny. I wonder what kind of hair mom has?

DECEMBER 13:

I am just about able to see. It is dark around me. When mom brings me into the world it will be full of sunshine and flowers. But what I want more than anything is to see my mom. How do you look, mom?

DECEMBER 24:

I wonder if mom hears the whispering of my heart? Some children come into the world a little sick. But my heart is strong and healthy. It beats so evenly: tup-tup, tup-tup. You’ll have a healthy little daughter, mom!
DECEMBER 28:

Today my mother killed me.

 

[BDBoop]

Nope, sorry. Didn't work.

 

[g5000]

This is in reply to me stating that abortion rates have gone up because of culture change.

I did not see where or who it was that said abortion rates have gone up, but that is completely false.

 

[rightwinger]

And encouragement of no fault divorce? Encouraged by the exact same people who discourage abortion.... So...

If I may ask, what connection are you trying to make between no fault divorce and discouraging abortion?

No fault divorce was pushed upon us, after Kinsey's *studies* went public, as a wonderful cure-all for family dysfunction. It was touted as the answer to unhappy marriages, to unhappy children, and as the answer to the dilemma caused by Kinsey's assertion that we are all sexual from birth, that we are not monogamous, that all sex is good sex. In order to accomodate free for all sex, we were sold no-fault divorce.

And it was a huge mistake, which is no surprise, given the fact that the studies used to justify it were nothing but a bunch of weirdoes documenting their own perversions and sex abuse of infants.

Kinsey's studies started the sexual revolution, are the studies cited for the necessity of relaxing penalities for sex crimes, no fault divorce, and are the framework upon which our public education sex ed programs have been draped since the late 1960s. That's the connection.

Do you make this shit up or do you pull it from nut job websites?

 

[g5000]

Ah. There it is. And the culprit is just as I figured.

So why has the teen birth rate, abortion rate, and unplanned pregnancy rate all continued to climb (with occasional, small blips every now and then)?

We have been through this before. You know very well the abortion rate has not climbed in decades. It has been declining.

 

[Dr.Drock]

When little Billy and little Susie leave the homecoming dance and drive to a remote place to make out, in the back of their minds they're both deciding whether or not to have sex.

Here's what takes place.

Billy thinks to himself: Well I don't really want to have sex, but since abortion is legal I'm going to go for it.

Susie thinks to herself: Well I don't want to have sex but since Planned Parenthood gets federal funding, I'm going to go ahead and do it.

Natural "god-given" hormones aren't a factor, that all makes perfect sense, right?

 

[BDBoop]

When little Billy and little Susie leave the homecoming dance and drive to a remote place to make out, in the back of their minds they're both deciding whether or not to have sex.

Here's what takes place.

Billy thinks to himself: Well I don't really want to have sex, but since abortion is legal I'm going to go for it.

Susie thinks to herself: Well I don't want to have sex butsince Planned Parenthood gets federal funding, I'm going to go ahead and do it.

Natural "god-given" hormones aren't a factor, that all makes perfect sense, right?

 

[BlindBoo]

If enough people vote against it - it's gone.

Wrong. It will go underground. Creating a new black market where women can be exploited for cash even more. Expanding the criminal base. More payoffs. More graft. More death.

Ahh, the old liberal stand-by of "We're going to do whatever we want, no matter what law you make, so you shouldn't make any laws at all!"

Oh, and lest we forget, the underlying refrain of "Women are just ignorant twats and victims." I DO so love how the alleged champions of women's rights hates women so very much. Just what I needed, the right to be condescended to and insulted by moral and intellectual pygmies . . . NOT.

I think a number of conservatives would also use black market abortionist if necessary.

72% of Americans favor abortion rights for women.

Not wanting to see women exploited again somehow is an underlying refrain of "Women Hate"?

How do you make that leap?

 

[BDBoop]

When little Billy and little Susie leave the homecoming dance and drive to a remote place to make out, in the back of their minds they're both deciding whether or not to have sex.

Here's what takes place.

Billy thinks to himself: Well I don't really want to have sex, but since abortion is legal I'm going to go for it.

Susie thinks to herself: Well I don't want to have sex but since Planned Parenthood gets federal funding, I'm going to go ahead and do it.

Natural "god-given" hormones aren't a factor, that all makes perfect sense, right?

This song, infinity.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_YjM4V4fc]Meat Loaf - Paradise By The Dashboard Light - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GoneBezerk]

Pro-abortion goons have always been the minority, they just got a Democrap slanted SCOTUS to make abortion legal.

Many voters that claim to be pro-abortion wouldn't be able to do it themselves if put in that situation. They just prefer to let others kill babies.....especially those white libs that run PlannedParenthood putting clinics in "black" neighborhoods like crack dealers.

 

[koshergrl]

"
The 60s sexual revolution, spurred by the birth control pill in 1968, was followed by no-fault divorce, the gay rights movement, classroom sex education, and sex therapy as a growth industry. Massive increases in crimes against woman and children also followed suit. Alongside these societal shifts came the introduction of decreased penalties for sex crimes, a tolerance for violence against women and children and an avalanche of pornography that invaded our town squares, bedrooms, living rooms, classrooms, museums, concert halls, cinemas, libraries and courtrooms.

Kinsey’s Data

The evidence is now clear that Kinsey’s research was fraught with lies, deceit, and fraudulent data. His "scientific" methodology was anything but scientific. The means by which he and his colleagues conducted research and gathered data was oftentimes criminal according to the laws of the time, and even by the laws of today. Contrary to the benevolent publicity accorded him, Kinsey and his hand-picked co-authors and colleagues fit the classic definition of "sexual psychopath" according to Dorland’s Medical Dictionary: "an individual whose sexual behavior is manifestly anti-social and criminal" (1981, p. 1091). "
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/ImplicationsOfKinseyReports.doc

Lest you think Reisman is a nutjob:

Reisman was Principal Investigator and author of the U.S. Department of Justice, Juvenile Justice study, Images of Children, Crime and Violence in Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler (1989), Kinsey, Sex and Fraud (Reisman, et al., 1990) and Soft Porn Plays Hardball (1991), Partner Solicitation Language as a Reflection of Male Sexual Orientation (w/Johnson, 1995), and Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences (1998, 2000).

 

[BDBoop]

Kinsey again. Christ. I'll be drunk by noon.

 

[koshergrl]

Ah. There it is. And the culprit is just as I figured.

So why has the teen birth rate, abortion rate, and unplanned pregnancy rate all continued to climb (with occasional, small blips every now and then)?

We have been through this before. You know very well the abortion rate has not climbed in decades. It has been declining.

No, I don't know that. Nobody knows that because there are no accurate stats. PP doesn't have to keep them in many states..and they don't. In the states where they do keep them, they lie.

 

[gxnelson]

Just throwin this out there. Pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion.....
There is that key word in there "choice"