Pro-choice at record low...41 percent.

[koshergrl]

Not education. The studies show that the women who get abortions know full well how to use contraceptives. They just don't do it properly, for whatever reasons.

Or are you saying there isn't any sex ed in the schools?

Perhaps you are advocating for explicit films? Or mandatory sex therapy for middle schoolers?

 

[koshergrl]

The education is already in place.

Science and math education are in place, too. But you are evidence it is not being properly taught.

Okey dokey then.

 

[g5000]

Not education. The studies show that the women who get abortions know full well how to use contraceptives. They just don't do it properly, for whatever reasons.

Or are you saying there isn't any sex ed in the schools?

Perhaps you are advocating for explicit films? Or mandatory sex therapy for middle schoolers?

Nice hysterical strawman you have going on there. Middle schoolers are not the ones getting abortions. The largest age group getting abortions is the 20-29 age group.

Can you cite the studies which show women who get abortions know full well how to use contraceptives?

 

[g5000]

They just don't do it properly, for whatever reasons.

And there is the crux of the biscuit. We should find out what those reasons are.

 

[BDBoop]

• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

So nearly half of abortions are because there was no use of contraception whatsoever.

And one third of those didn't use contraception because they thought they were at low risk for pregnancy. Catholics using the rhythm method, maybe?

Another third had concerns about contraceptive methods.

Both of these can be addressed by education. This is not a problem with access to birth control. This is clearly an education problem.

It takes a real dipshit not to see that.

And it takes a real dipshit to blow it all off and just scream at people instead of realizing they have been overlooking something that could actually lower the number of abortions.


It does not get more stupid than that. Something that can actually work toward reducing the murders they get so hysterical about, but it is more important to them to call people names and make shit up.

Emotional basket cases are such a bitch sometimes.

Yeah-huh.

 

[koshergrl]

And back to square one...thing one and thing two "If you don't agree you're dumb".

 

[g5000]

So...no studies then.

 

[Cowman]

'Pro-choice' is anti-science.

What the fuck kind of stupid shit is this?

 

[Cowman]

Oh so you just defend the right of people to kill THEIR children. Good for you!

They're not killing their children.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Oh so you just defend the right of people to kill THEIR children. Good for you!

They're not killing their children.

Of course they’re not.

This is typical rightist demagoguery, to ignore the facts and the law of the issue and make a shameful emotional attack.

It’s a concession on her part her ‘argument’ has failed.

 

[koshergrl]

'Pro-choice' is anti-science.

What the fuck kind of stupid shit is this?

Pro-abortionists rely on lies to justify killing babies.

They claim that the aborted babies aren't babies, for example. They claim they aren't people. Wrong. They have the exact same dna as they will at adults. They don't magically change into people after birth.

They fight to keep information from women who seek abortions. They don't want them to see pictures of their babies, they don't want them to have ultrasounds that will pinpoint precisely the fetal age of their babies before abortion. They want to prevent women from accessing the best care/information because they are afraid they will change their minds.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh so you just defend the right of people to kill THEIR children. Good for you!

They're not killing their children.

Of course they’re not.

This is typical rightist demagoguery, to ignore the facts and the law of the issue and make a shameful emotional attack.

It’s a concession on her part her ‘argument’ has failed.

No, it's not. My argument hasn't failed at all. The only way you can win the argument is to lie about the humanity of the unborn, to deny the science.

You guys are very committed to killing off minority children.

 

[koshergrl]

So...no studies then.

I've posted them.

Do you have any to contest?

 

[Seawytch]

Sex Ed Can Help Prevent Teen Pregnancy

U.S. teen birth rate drops to a record low

“It’s a combination of less sex and more contraception. Both sides should declare victory,” Albert said. “I would resist the temptation for a magic bullet to explain the declines in teen pregnancies. I suspect it’s a rich brew of reasons why the rates are going down.”​

 

[uscitizen]

When was the last time we tried to re-define a word that defines our humanity, our family, our speech?

Abortion = choice
baby = fetus
human = personhood
alive = thinking at advanced level
marriage = any two people

Abstinance only = Bristol Palin.

 

[koshergrl]

That "record" low is still exponentially higher than it was when abortion was made legal. In fact, it's still higher than it was through the 80s. It's only dropped from the peak in the 90s.

These are the lies you tell to justify it.

And the drop has stopped.

 

[uscitizen]

They're not killing their children.

Of course they’re not.

This is typical rightist demagoguery, to ignore the facts and the law of the issue and make a shameful emotional attack.

It’s a concession on her part her ‘argument’ has failed.

No, it's not. My argument hasn't failed at all. The only way you can win the argument is to lie about the humanity of the unborn, to deny the science.

You guys are very committed to killing off minority children.

Yes the cons only kill majority children. Muslims are not a minority.

 

[koshergrl]

From your link:

"Comprehensive sex education may help"


Do you know what may means? It means it isn't proven.

50 years, and it isn't proven.

 

[koshergrl]

Of course they’re not.

This is typical rightist demagoguery, to ignore the facts and the law of the issue and make a shameful emotional attack.

It’s a concession on her part her ‘argument’ has failed.

No, it's not. My argument hasn't failed at all. The only way you can win the argument is to lie about the humanity of the unborn, to deny the science.

You guys are very committed to killing off minority children.

Yes the cons only kill majority children. Muslims are not a minority.

Yeah, even if that wasn't a lie, it would be completely irrelevant.

Logical fallacy.

 

[Seawytch]

From your link:

"Comprehensive sex education may help"


Do you know what may means? It means it isn't proven.

50 years, and it isn't proven.

The researchers found that teens who received comprehensive sex education were 60 percent less likely to get pregnant or to get someone pregnant than those who received no sex education.

What states have the highest teen birth rate? Which states have the lowest? What is the curriculum in these states? I'll give you a hint...for the highest, look south and for the lowest, look north.