Pro-Life all the way: Trump continues to deliver on campaign promises

[Dana7360]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

Pure unadulterated horseshit

 

[Dana7360]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

Pure unadulterated horseshit

First of all do you kiss people with that filthy mouth?

Second, for a person who proclaims to be a devout christian I'm surprised to see you call the christian bible that vulgar word.

Don't you have any respect for the religion you proclaim to follow?

Have you ever actually read the bible?

I have. I was a very devout christian in my younger years. I read that book from cover to cover. Apparently you're just a christian in name for convenience only.

Meanwhile those of us who actually knows what's in that book are very sad to see people violate it the way you do.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Actually, trump is the most flip-flopping in history. He has no ethics or morals. All that matters to him is money in his pocket.

Even trumpanzees know that.

People change and you love the Clintons, the ultimate money grubbers.

 

[Dragonlady]

The fact that the left refers to the international funding of infanticide as "U.S. family planning funds" is ironic but not surprising. Nobody is talking about repealing the S.C. decision of Roe v Wade which relied on a "right to privacy" which did not appear in the Constitution but that's how the left gets their base motivated. All the pro-lifers want is for the federal government to stop funding the abortion industry with taxpayer money.

Abortion is one of the left's Holy Grails. It speaks volumes of their mind set

Defunding any sort of assistance for living breathing children, like food stamps, CHiP, school lunches, and inner city education is the Holy Grail for conservatives. It speaks volumes that they care for children only so long as they don’t require tax dollars to do so. Once money is involved, the kids can die for all they care.

 

[koshergrl]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

NOnsense. Everything in the bible is about context...and of course anti-Christian nutbags take everything out of context.

Adam had life breathed into his nostrils..that is when he changed from earth to flesh and bone.
Our children are not created of the earth. They are created in heaven, and then knit in our bodies..during which time they are wholly themselves...alive.

 

[koshergrl]

And btw, the words fetus, and baby, and child, as I said are indicative of developmental stages.
The developmental stages of a living, growing person.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Actually, trump is the most flip-flopping in history. He has no ethics or morals. All that matters to him is money in his pocket.

Even trumpanzees know that.

No we dont, he doesn't even take the salary, he dropped on the forbes list..

 

[nat4900]

No we dont, he doesn't even take the salary, he dropped on the forbes list.

Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Richer as President - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...trump...getting-rich-off...presidency/530718/
Jun 16, 2017 - Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Rich as President ... Trump claimed more than $37 million in income from Mar-a-Lago, the Palm Beach ...

 

[Wyatt earp]

No we dont, he doesn't even take the salary, he dropped on the forbes list.

Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Richer as President - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...trump...getting-rich-off...presidency/530718/
Jun 16, 2017 - Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Rich as President ... Trump claimed more than $37 million in income from Mar-a-Lago, the Palm Beach ...

Then how did he drop on the forbes list?

 

[JoeMoma]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

Pure unadulterated horseshit

There is a massive difference in God creating the first human from dust and life being conceived in the womb.

Can’t fix stupid!

 

[there4eyeM]

All those complicit in murder, raise your hands. Also, keep your hypocrisy to yourselves.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

Actually science does indeed declare that, in fact science leaves no other option.

A zygote, embryo or fetus are the results of reproduction of two humans. Two humans can only produce another human, nothing else.

So, if a zygote, embryo or fetus are not human as you claim, then what are they? They have to be some form of animal, so which one will you claim they are until the magical time they transform into a human?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Actually, trump is the most flip-flopping in history. He has no ethics or morals. All that matters to him is money in his pocket.

Even trumpanzees know that.

No we dont, he doesn't even take the salary, he dropped on the forbes list..

One trip to golf in Florida cost more than his annual salary, him not taking a salary is just a shiny object to keep people like you distracted.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No we dont, he doesn't even take the salary, he dropped on the forbes list.

Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Richer as President - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...trump...getting-rich-off...presidency/530718/
Jun 16, 2017 - Donald Trump Reports He's Getting Rich as President ... Trump claimed more than $37 million in income from Mar-a-Lago, the Palm Beach ...

Then how did he drop on the forbes list?

Because other people made even more money...duh. Trump was never all that good of a businessman.

 

[Jessica123]

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

Actually science does indeed declare that, in fact science leaves no other option.

A zygote, embryo or fetus are the results of reproduction of two humans. Two humans can only produce another human, nothing else.

So, if a zygote, embryo or fetus are not human as you claim, then what are they? They have to be some form of animal, so which one will you claim they are until the magical time they transform into a human?

Humans are animals. We're Great apes.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

Pure unadulterated horseshit

First of all do you kiss people with that filthy mouth?

Second, for a person who proclaims to be a devout christian I'm surprised to see you call the christian bible that vulgar word.

Don't you have any respect for the religion you proclaim to follow?

Have you ever actually read the bible?

I have. I was a very devout christian in my younger years. I read that book from cover to cover. Apparently you're just a christian in name for convenience only.

Meanwhile those of us who actually knows what's in that book are very sad to see people violate it the way you do.

I gave you three passages from the Bible totally annihilating your nonsense. You obviously didn't read them and you're a Biblical illiterate. Now cease bothering me with your crap. I do not take you serious

 

[Dana7360]

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

Actually science does indeed declare that, in fact science leaves no other option.

A zygote, embryo or fetus are the results of reproduction of two humans. Two humans can only produce another human, nothing else.

So, if a zygote, embryo or fetus are not human as you claim, then what are they? They have to be some form of animal, so which one will you claim they are until the magical time they transform into a human?

I said living human being.

Yes science agrees that it's the potential or developing to be a living human being.

However, science doesn't say that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a living humming being.

Here you go from a science dictionary:

Zygote: A zygote is a fertilized egg containing two sets of chromosomes, one from the egg (oocyte) and one form the sperm. The zygote is a single cell and the result of a fusion between two gametes, an egg (female) and one sperm cell (male)

Ebryo:
a archaic : a vertebrate at any stage of development prior to birth or hatching
b : an animal in the early stages of growth and differentiation that are characterized by cleavage, the laying down of fundamental tissues, and the formation of primitive organs and organ systems; especially : the developing human individual from the time of implantation to the end of the eighth week after conception
2: the young sporophyte of a seed plant usually comprising a rudimentary plant with plumule, radicle, and cotyledons
3a : something as yet undeveloped
b : a beginning or undeveloped state of something

• productions seen in embryo during their out-of-town tryout period
• —Henry Hewes

Fetus:
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth — compare embryo 1b

 

[Dragonlady]

Abortion is the hypocrite's crutch, a child dies every few seconds in the world and even in America of preventable healthcare issues and never ever do you hear abortion foes talk of helping the living born conscious human being. It is only this moral outrage over abortion that gets notice for it requires nothing of the moralist except judgment and condemnation of the other. Consider too the misogyny and racism so evident in America during the last President and 2016 election and you must wonder why this love of children does extend into love of all people? How hard it is to to fund help for the needy in America, CHIP was an example, or universal healthcare, and you soon realize abortion like guns is only a wedge issue used to manage the mind of the easily persuaded. Religion, and especially evangelical religion in America has come to be about political power and money, and no longer has anything to do with morality, simply doing good for your neighbor.

"Diarrhoea is a leading killer of children, accounting for 9 per cent of all deaths among children under age 5 worldwide in 2015. This translates to over 1,400 young children dying each day, or about 526,000 children a year, despite the availability of simple effective treatment."

Diarrhoeal Disease - UNICEF DATA

We do abortions here. A nurse's story | Harper's Magazine

Huge difference from a child dying from disease and being murdered in the womb

Since you're such a devout christian you should know it's wrong to lie.

You should also know that your own god and religion says that while it's inside the womb, it's not life.

Your bible says very clearly and plainly, life starts when air is taken through the nose. A fetus inside the womb can't do that. Only a living person outside the womb can do that.

So there's no murder. No death as far as the christian bible is concerned.

Read genesis. It states very clearly when life starts and it's not inside any womb.

You have your "opinion" and never ever try to dictate me on Christianity.

You're such a Bible fan try Genesis 4: 1, 17, Psalms: 139: 13, 15, Psalms 22: 11-12

It's not my opinion. It's biblical fact.

Genesis 2:7:

But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dustfrom the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man becamea living being.

That is extremely clear when life starts.When air is taken through the nose.

Our laws and science also say that while it's inside the womb, it's either a zygote, embryo or fetus. It doesn't become a baby until it's outside the womb.

No pregnant woman says she has a baby. She says she's going to have a baby. That's because we women know that it's not a baby until it's outside our body.

You can't get a legal birth certificate or death certificate for a fetus. You can't get a social security number for a fetus. You can't get any legal ID for a fetus. You can't register a fetus at any school. A fetus doesn't meet the definition of life either on a scientific, legal or christian level.

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

You can't kill what isn't alive.

Then there's the book of Numbers where your god describes in detail how to perform an abortion.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

NOnsense. Everything in the bible is about context...and of course anti-Christian nutbags take everything out of context.

Adam had life breathed into his nostrils..that is when he changed from earth to flesh and bone.
Our children are not created of the earth. They are created in heaven, and then knit in our bodies..during which time they are wholly themselves...alive.

Bullshit. Our children are created of sperm and egg. Nowhere in the Bible is there any kind of fable like the one you just posted. Nowhere.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No where in our society does our government or science declare that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a baby or living human being.

Actually science does indeed declare that, in fact science leaves no other option.

A zygote, embryo or fetus are the results of reproduction of two humans. Two humans can only produce another human, nothing else.

So, if a zygote, embryo or fetus are not human as you claim, then what are they? They have to be some form of animal, so which one will you claim they are until the magical time they transform into a human?

I said living human being.

Yes science agrees that it's the potential or developing to be a living human being.

However, science doesn't say that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a living humming being.

Here you go from a science dictionary:

Zygote: A zygote is a fertilized egg containing two sets of chromosomes, one from the egg (oocyte) and one form the sperm. The zygote is a single cell and the result of a fusion between two gametes, an egg (female) and one sperm cell (male)

Ebryo:
a archaic : a vertebrate at any stage of development prior to birth or hatching
b : an animal in the early stages of growth and differentiation that are characterized by cleavage, the laying down of fundamental tissues, and the formation of primitive organs and organ systems; especially : the developing human individual from the time of implantation to the end of the eighth week after conception
2: the young sporophyte of a seed plant usually comprising a rudimentary plant with plumule, radicle, and cotyledons
3a : something as yet undeveloped
b : a beginning or undeveloped state of something

• productions seen in embryo during their out-of-town tryout period
• —Henry Hewes

Fetus:
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth — compare embryo 1b

Now give the text book definition of a “human being”. Be sure to copy and paste


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