Pulling Back the Curtain on the Ugly GOP

[LordBrownTrout]

lol
oh boy. Have you looked at the progressive party you BELONG for the last seven years. ? that isn't just ugly it's been downright nasty. and you claim it's the Gop

oh and did you all see how you treated a woman running for Vice President of this country?

now sit down

this is all your party ever runs on. dirt, smears and dirty lowdown nasty politics

You know, it is easier to support your argument if you give examples. Like the "Lipstick on a pig is still a pig" comment.

I see what you are saying, but some of the others may have forgotten.

They know what I'm talking about. If you're a long time member on here. but they want everyone to think they are the party of love and civility. well go back and search this board for ANYTHING about Palin. they can see firsthand what I'm talking about

just like their Faux outrage over Trump and McCain. go search how they treated McCain when he was running for President. the SAME they are treating Trump now

To be fair, Palin was an idiot who said a lot of stupid things. Having a vagina isn't an excuse for being an idiot.

Its working for hillary, so even a non used dusty vagina evidently has power.

Hillary is smart enough to be kicking your ass. The only ass sarah ever kicked was her own. She even lost in her drunken brawl.

She's as bright as a black hole.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

You know, it is easier to support your argument if you give examples. Like the "Lipstick on a pig is still a pig" comment.

I see what you are saying, but some of the others may have forgotten.

They know what I'm talking about. If you're a long time member on here. but they want everyone to think they are the party of love and civility. well go back and search this board for ANYTHING about Palin. they can see firsthand what I'm talking about

just like their Faux outrage over Trump and McCain. go search how they treated McCain when he was running for President. the SAME they are treating Trump now

To be fair, Palin was an idiot who said a lot of stupid things. Having a vagina isn't an excuse for being an idiot.

Its working for hillary, so even a non used dusty vagina evidently has power.

Hillary is smart enough to be kicking your ass. The only ass sarah ever kicked was her own. She even lost in her drunken brawl.

She's as bright as a black hole.

Bill was the first black president
Hillary would be the first black ho president.

 

[candycorn]

You know, it is easier to support your argument if you give examples. Like the "Lipstick on a pig is still a pig" comment.

I see what you are saying, but some of the others may have forgotten.

They know what I'm talking about. If you're a long time member on here. but they want everyone to think they are the party of love and civility. well go back and search this board for ANYTHING about Palin. they can see firsthand what I'm talking about

just like their Faux outrage over Trump and McCain. go search how they treated McCain when he was running for President. the SAME they are treating Trump now

To be fair, Palin was an idiot who said a lot of stupid things. Having a vagina isn't an excuse for being an idiot.

Its working for hillary, so even a non used dusty vagina evidently has power.

Hillary is smart enough to be kicking your ass. The only ass sarah ever kicked was her own. She even lost in her drunken brawl.

She's as bright as a black hole.

She is imminently more qualified than any of the GOP senators running for President and arguably more qualified than the governors and ex-governors.

What Mr. Trump is doing (whether he knows it or not) is reflecting that not only qualifications (which she has) go a long way, not only experience (which she has) go a long way, not only an understanding of the role (which she has) goes a long way, an understanding of the law (which she has) goes a long way, and an understanding of the American people (which she may or or frankly may not have in abundance) goes a long way but also the temperament of a Commander-in-Chief goes a long way.

What type of relationship will Trump have with any other foreign leaders with his affinity for publicly calling people losers and decrying our closest geographic neighbor?

The net result is that every day Trump spends in the race is a net positive for the Democrats. That he further highlights fissures in the GOP electorate and brings the insane members of the caucus to the forefront is an added bonus.

Those are the facts; now back to the one-liners.

 

[Nosmo King]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

As Hugh Hewitt says of John McCain, he is a Great American, a lousy Senator and a horrible republican......

Hugh Hewitt has won zero elections.
McCain has won four.

Advantage McCain.

Most likely Trump is a Democratic plant on a reconnaissance and search and destroy mission. He's exposing the GOP base for their hypocrisy, making monkeys of the corporate news, knocking down Republican myths and monoliths and paving the way for a Democrat landslide.

I doubt that very much. Trump is a Republican of the egregiously cruel, greedy and stupid variety. The flames he is throwing are all in the Republican tradition, but not necessarily the Republican style. He is more in line with the Rush Limbaugh school of thought with Limbaughesque acolytes jumping to his defense.

I find it interesting a number of liberals saying nice things about John McCain since around 7 years ago this time he was worse than Darth Vader.

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Discounting Mrs. Clinton and the baggage she brings, do you actually think Donald Trump has real presidential timbre? Would you want Trump and his attitudes toward his fellow Americans in the White House?

 

[francoHFW]

No Bengazi scandal, just bs propaganda for hater dupes only. Palin doesn't need any Dem help in outing herself...

Unless of course it happened under a GOP admin and you would be one of the first harping about it.

We don't HAVE a total bs propaganda arm running our party, or congressional committees going on forever about nothing. The New BS GOP has been doing this for 30 years and it's beginning to be a world wide joke and horror, hater dupe. You're all the definition of FOS.

 

[francoHFW]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

As Hugh Hewitt says of John McCain, he is a Great American, a lousy Senator and a horrible republican......

Hugh Hewitt has won zero elections.
McCain has won four.

Advantage McCain.

Most likely Trump is a Democratic plant on a reconnaissance and search and destroy mission. He's exposing the GOP base for their hypocrisy, making monkeys of the corporate news, knocking down Republican myths and monoliths and paving the way for a Democrat landslide.

I doubt that very much. Trump is a Republican of the egregiously cruel, greedy and stupid variety. The flames he is throwing are all in the Republican tradition, but not necessarily the Republican style. He is more in line with the Rush Limbaugh school of thought with Limbaughesque acolytes jumping to his defense.

I find it interesting a number of liberals saying nice things about John McCain since around 7 years ago this time he was worse than Darth Vader.

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Of course, everything bad you know about Hilary is total bs...25 years of it...

 

[Katzndogz]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Your post is just too wordy for me to even think of reading.

The same John McCain they were bashing a few years ago is now their greatest hero.

 

[francoHFW]

As Hugh Hewitt says of John McCain, he is a Great American, a lousy Senator and a horrible republican......

Hugh Hewitt has won zero elections.
McCain has won four.

Advantage McCain.

I doubt that very much. Trump is a Republican of the egregiously cruel, greedy and stupid variety. The flames he is throwing are all in the Republican tradition, but not necessarily the Republican style. He is more in line with the Rush Limbaugh school of thought with Limbaughesque acolytes jumping to his defense.

I find it interesting a number of liberals saying nice things about John McCain since around 7 years ago this time he was worse than Darth Vader.

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Of course, everything bad you know about Hilary is total bs...25 years of it...

Start with her "being fired from Watergate committee"...total bs.
snopes.com Jerry Zeifman Fired Hillary Clinton from the Watergate Investigation

 

[Nosmo King]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Your post is just too wordy for me to even think of reading.

The same John McCain they were bashing a few years ago is now their greatest hero.

Moron!

When McCain was the Republican nominee did any Democrat call his war record into question? Nope! That takes a lower form of duechbaggery than any Demcrat is capable of. It takes the form of life we call Donald Trump.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

As Hugh Hewitt says of John McCain, he is a Great American, a lousy Senator and a horrible republican......

Hugh Hewitt has won zero elections.
McCain has won four.

Advantage McCain.

I doubt that very much. Trump is a Republican of the egregiously cruel, greedy and stupid variety. The flames he is throwing are all in the Republican tradition, but not necessarily the Republican style. He is more in line with the Rush Limbaugh school of thought with Limbaughesque acolytes jumping to his defense.

I find it interesting a number of liberals saying nice things about John McCain since around 7 years ago this time he was worse than Darth Vader.

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Discounting Mrs. Clinton and the baggage she brings, do you actually think Donald Trump has real presidential timbre? Would you want Trump and his attitudes toward his fellow Americans in the White House?

you talking about his attitude toward the illegals? they are not fellow Americans, they are trash that needs to be taken out.
And given the choice between a known anti American like clinton or a real American like Donald Trump, I would certainly go for Trump. And as sad as it is, he is the best in the bunch right now. We do not need any more socialists in the white house.

 

[TooTall]

Another phony posturing OP from a poorly read, severely biased liberal.

Were you "outraged" when liberal bloggers during the 2008 campaign questioned McCain's military record and suggested he was a traitor for participating in North Vietnamese propaganda films and for signing anti-American statements? Remember that? (See, for example, Some on left target McCain s war record - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com ) Where was the liberal outrage then over attacks on this "war hero"?

Gee, I don't remember any liberals saying that such disreputable attacks called for "pulling back the curtain on the ugly Democratic Party." Do you?

And do you remember back in the 2008 campaign when Obama ran an ad that made fun of McCain's disability by mocking his inability to send an e-mail? Gee, I didn't see any liberals talking about "the ugly Democratic Party" over that either. By the way, did Obama ever apologize for that ad? Do you care?

But, oh, now that Donald Trump, in an annoyed reaction to McCain's rude comments about his supporters, has called McCain a "loser" (only in the context that he "lost" the 2008 election) and has questioned McCain's status as a war hero because he was captured, liberals are now coming to McCain's defense!

What a pack of hypocrites you people are.

I wasn't here in 2008. If you could cite some examples that would be great. Better still, if they made the contention that John McCain was not a war hero, they are nonsense. But I would like to see them.

There are idiots in every group of people and I'll be the first to admit that the liberal coalition has it's share.

I do not recall Obama running an ad that made fun of McCain's disability (I wasn't aware McCain had a disability). Please cite the source or show the commercial.

Your indignation would be much more interesting to me if you could also cite some conservatives here who agreed with Trump about McCain not being a war hero last week or later.

Thanks.

This is what the Democrat Senator from Minnesota said about Senator McCain.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war," Franken, a Democrat who now represents Minnesota, quipped to Salon for a 2000 article about the stakes of that year's presidential election."

Al Franken in 2000 satirized McCain s war hero status - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Debra K]

lol
oh boy. Have you looked at the progressive party you BELONG for the last seven years. ? that isn't just ugly it's been downright nasty. and you claim it's the Gop

oh and did you all see how you treated a woman running for Vice President of this country?

now sit down

this is all your party ever runs on. dirt, smears and dirty lowdown nasty politics

You've got to be kidding. You hang your hat on that absurdity? Sarah Palin was and still is an uninformed person who cannot string words together to form a coherent sentence. No sane person wanted that person a heartbeat away from the presidency. We already had the dimwit Dan Quale and he was a genius in comparison to Sarah Palin. And you know it. It's not a smear if it's true.

 

[Nosmo King]

Hugh Hewitt has won zero elections.
McCain has won four.

Advantage McCain.

I find it interesting a number of liberals saying nice things about John McCain since around 7 years ago this time he was worse than Darth Vader.

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Discounting Mrs. Clinton and the baggage she brings, do you actually think Donald Trump has real presidential timbre? Would you want Trump and his attitudes toward his fellow Americans in the White House?

you talking about his attitude toward the illegals? they are not fellow Americans, they are trash that needs to be taken out.
And given the choice between a known anti American like clinton or a real American like Donald Trump, I would certainly go for Trump. And as sad as it is, he is the best in the bunch right now. We do not need any more socialists in the white house.

Given your attitude, I think you are uniquely qualified to work hard to elect Donald Trump.

 

[francoHFW]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Your post is just too wordy for me to even think of reading.

The same John McCain they were bashing a few years ago is now their greatest hero.

Bashing his policies and choices, not his war record. Check the swift boaters for GOP morals...

 

[TooTall]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Your post is just too wordy for me to even think of reading.

The same John McCain they were bashing a few years ago is now their greatest hero.

Moron!

When McCain was the Republican nominee did any Democrat call his war record into question? Nope! That takes a lower form of duechbaggery than any Demcrat is capable of. It takes the form of life we call Donald Trump.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war," Franken, a Democrat who now represents Minnesota, quipped to Salon for a 2000 article about the stakes of that year's presidential election.

Al Franken in 2000 satirized McCain s war hero status - CNNPolitics.com

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Moron!

When McCain was the Republican nominee did any Democrat call his war record into question? Nope! That takes a lower form of duechbaggery than any Demcrat is capable of. It takes the form of life we call Donald Trump.

The only moron in this conversation would be you.

Quote that fucking derogatory phrase you think he uttered and lets discuss it.

Bet your pussy ass want do it.

I posted the transcript below, where did he call that war record into question.

 

[BULLDOG]

Hillary is smart enough to be kicking your ass. The only ass sarah ever kicked was her own. She even lost in her drunken brawl.

Hillary is not kicking my ass. You must have me mistaken for someone else.
Wasnt big on Sarah Palin either.

If you are a right winger, she is and has been kicking your ass. You've been out to crush her for decades, and you've only demonized her in your own ranks.

I think that history will show that she is an anti American white trash whore.

In your case it takes one to know one.

certainly you can respond with something of more substance than that.

Of course, but why waste time with an idot?

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Given your attitude, I think you are uniquely qualified to work hard to elect Donald Trump.

I'll stump for Trump, just to help put mouthy butthurt bitches like you out of operation.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I think it shows how much the fear Donald Trump when the best they can come up with is the Witch of Benghazi.
oh wait, that's right, what difference does that make now.

Are you supporting Trump?

I think he could be the best right now. Certainly better than Hillary. but then, who wouldn't be better than Hillary.

Discounting Mrs. Clinton and the baggage she brings, do you actually think Donald Trump has real presidential timbre? Would you want Trump and his attitudes toward his fellow Americans in the White House?

you talking about his attitude toward the illegals? they are not fellow Americans, they are trash that needs to be taken out.
And given the choice between a known anti American like clinton or a real American like Donald Trump, I would certainly go for Trump. And as sad as it is, he is the best in the bunch right now. We do not need any more socialists in the white house.

Given your attitude, I think you are uniquely qualified to work hard to elect Donald Trump.

considering the garbage that the democrats are going to run, I will take that as a strong compliment.
Thank You.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Fact Check: The Washington Post on Donald Trump and John McCain

• by sattkisson
• on July 18, 2015
• in Fact Check, News
• 92 Comments

[Above image: Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump at the 2015 Conservative Political Action Conference]

Donald Trump appears to have gotten under the skin of not only Democrats, but also fellow Republicans and the news media. Has that subjected Trump, a Republican presidential candidate, to unfair and/or inaccurate reporting?

An article in the Washington Post today is headlined, “Trump slams McCain for being ‘captured’ in Vietnam.”

The article’s lead sentence states, “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump slammed Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran, on Saturday by saying McCain was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese [emphasis added].”

Is this report accurate?

In fact, Trump’s actual quote is the opposite of what is presented in the Post’s first sentence.

Discussion

1. The Post did not provide context at the outset disclosing that McCain and Trump have been feuding, with McCain characterizing some Trump supporters as “crazies” and Trump stating that McCain graduated last in his class in Annapolis. The charged rhetoric continued at the conservative Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa this weekend.

2. When a panelist characterized McCain as a “war hero,” the Post is accurate in reporting that Trump initially said McCain is “not a war hero.” But then, Trump immediately modified his statement saying– four times– that McCain is a war hero:

“He is a war hero.”

“He’s a war hero because he was captured.”

“He’s a war hero, because he was captured.”

“I believe, perhaps, he’s a war hero. But right now, he’s said some very bad things about a lot of people.”

3. Did Trump say McCain is not a war hero because he was captured? No, not in the exchanges represented in the Post.

4. Is the Post’s characterization an accident? It would appear not, because it is repeated in the Post’s caption of the video clip, which also states: “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam war veteran, was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese [emphasis added].”

Further, in the Post’s second sentence, Trump is quoted as stating of McCain, “He’s not a war hero…He’s a war hero because he was captured,” but the article selectively left out the phrase Trump had uttered in between: “He is a war hero.”