Putin IS NOT bombing ISIS

The Chechen leader just pledged his warriors to ISIS.

15,000. You don't think Putin wants to take out ISIS?
When Putin actually moves onto ISIS you'll have a point. Until then all you have is speculation and the facts that I posted in my op.

I don't know the strategy except I have been monitoring that they are taking out al Nusra.

This is AQ.

As Martha would say.................that's a good thing.

They're also taking out FSA.

Is that a "good" thing?

Yes because they have been working with al Nusra. They've aligned with AQ. Garden is over. I have too much time on my hands.

:lol:

I know this shit.

The al-Nusra Front, or Jabhat al-Nusra (Arabic: جبهة النصرة لأهل الشام‎ Jabhat an-Nuṣrah li-Ahli ash-Shām, "The Support Front for the People of Al-Sham", often abbreviated to JN or JaN), sometimes called al-Qaeda in Syria or al-Qaeda in the Levant,[41] is a Sunni Islamic jihadist militia fighting against Syrian Government forces in the Syrian Civil War, with the aim of establishing an Islamist state in the country.[42] It is the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda,[43] and also operates in neighbouring Lebanon.[

The group announced its formation on 23 January 2012.[45] In November 2012, The Washington Post described al-Nusra as the most successful arm of the Free Syrian Army (FSA).[46] Ten days later, the United States designated Jabhat al-Nusra as a foreign terrorist organization,[47] it has also been designated by the United Nations Security Council,[48] France,[49] Australia,[50] the United Kingdom,[51][52] Canada,[53] Saudi Arabia,[54] New Zealand,[55] United Arab Emirates,[56] Russia,[57] and Turkey.[58]

In early 2015, there were reports that Qatar and other Gulf states were trying to get al-Nusra to split away from al-Qaeda, after which they would support al-Nusra with money.[59] Western observers[60] and a Syrian observer[61] considered such a split unlikely, and in March 2015, al-Nusra’s leadership denied a break-up or that talks with Qatar had occurred.[60] Other Syrian observers considered such a split conceivable[61] or imminent.[62]

As of 2015, al-Nusra cooperates with Islamist and jihadist rebel groups, and sometimes Free Syrian Army-aligned groups, against Syrian government forces (see section Relations with other Syrian rebels).

al-Nusra Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Congratulations, you've learned to cut and paste.
 
When Putin actually moves onto ISIS you'll have a point. Until then all you have is speculation and the facts that I posted in my op.

I don't know the strategy except I have been monitoring that they are taking out al Nusra.

This is AQ.

As Martha would say.................that's a good thing.

They're also taking out FSA.

Is that a "good" thing?

Yes because they have been working with al Nusra. They've aligned with AQ. Garden is over. I have too much time on my hands.

:lol:

I know this shit.

The al-Nusra Front, or Jabhat al-Nusra (Arabic: جبهة النصرة لأهل الشام‎ Jabhat an-Nuṣrah li-Ahli ash-Shām, "The Support Front for the People of Al-Sham", often abbreviated to JN or JaN), sometimes called al-Qaeda in Syria or al-Qaeda in the Levant,[41] is a Sunni Islamic jihadist militia fighting against Syrian Government forces in the Syrian Civil War, with the aim of establishing an Islamist state in the country.[42] It is the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda,[43] and also operates in neighbouring Lebanon.[

The group announced its formation on 23 January 2012.[45] In November 2012, The Washington Post described al-Nusra as the most successful arm of the Free Syrian Army (FSA).[46] Ten days later, the United States designated Jabhat al-Nusra as a foreign terrorist organization,[47] it has also been designated by the United Nations Security Council,[48] France,[49] Australia,[50] the United Kingdom,[51][52] Canada,[53] Saudi Arabia,[54] New Zealand,[55] United Arab Emirates,[56] Russia,[57] and Turkey.[58]

In early 2015, there were reports that Qatar and other Gulf states were trying to get al-Nusra to split away from al-Qaeda, after which they would support al-Nusra with money.[59] Western observers[60] and a Syrian observer[61] considered such a split unlikely, and in March 2015, al-Nusra’s leadership denied a break-up or that talks with Qatar had occurred.[60] Other Syrian observers considered such a split conceivable[61] or imminent.[62]

As of 2015, al-Nusra cooperates with Islamist and jihadist rebel groups, and sometimes Free Syrian Army-aligned groups, against Syrian government forces (see section Relations with other Syrian rebels).

al-Nusra Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Congratulations, you've learned to cut and paste.

Poor old mod has never seen it before..

But then again what do you expect from a racist socialist..
 
This is going to be epic. Kadyrov is ready to put boots on the ground in Syria if Putin and Assad request his men.

Wow. Just wow.
 
I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.
 
I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.

:lol:

That's some deep thinking right there.

So that means you must be a big fan of ISIS, al-Qaeda, North Korea, and so on, right?
How do you come up with that happy cow flop? I don't think she was referring to any of those degenerate animals as friends.

Well, they've all "gone against" Obama.
Me too, but for different reasons. Obama is a national disgrace.
 
I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.

:lol:

That's some deep thinking right there.

So that means you must be a big fan of ISIS, al-Qaeda, North Korea, and so on, right?
How do you come up with that happy cow flop? I don't think she was referring to any of those degenerate animals as friends.

Well, they've all "gone against" Obama.
Me too, but for different reasons. Obama is a national disgrace.

So when you made your post, you must have missed this:

I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.

You're welcome for bringing it to your attention.
 
I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.

:lol:

That's some deep thinking right there.

So that means you must be a big fan of ISIS, al-Qaeda, North Korea, and so on, right?
How do you come up with that happy cow flop? I don't think she was referring to any of those degenerate animals as friends.

Well, they've all "gone against" Obama.
Me too, but for different reasons. Obama is a national disgrace.

So when you made your post, you must have missed this:

I hate Obama

anybody who goes against him is my friend.

that's all.

You're welcome for bringing it to your attention.
I didn't miss it. In fact that was the post I referred to.
 
“Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster — and nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life. I cannot help asking those who have forced that situation: Do you realize what you have done?”

No, they don’t realize what they have done, and they’re poised to do more of it. And those of us who warned at the time that the “Arab Spring” would not lead to “the triumph of democracy and progress,” but to “violence, poverty and social disaster,” were dismissed and derided as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes.” And no matter how often the establishment analysts get things wrong, and disastrously, fatally so, they never get called to account, and keep applying the same failed solutions over and over again. Putin to those who supported “Arab Spring” in Middle East: “Do you realize what you have done?”

:lol:

It's amazing to me that people think they can still use the "White Man's Burden" argument.
do tell.......

Ok.

You are arguing against the Arab Spring, yes? Because it led to chaos and violence? That means that you're arguing in favor of Assad, Mubarak, Gaddafi, etc. You are arguing that "they" were better off under a dictatorship, when they could be controlled - as opposed to a popular uprising, because in the aftermath of that, they may choose someone who won't do what we want.

Do you see where I'm going?

Yes. You seem to be under the impression that because Assad, qadaffi, and all the dictators in the middle east were worthless pieces of garbage that we should be supporting their violent overthrow in support of genocidal nutjobs with apocalyptic aspirations when we shouldn't be supporting anyone.

There are more options than support and oppose.

Why does the left always blame the US for the problems we have in the middle east and their solution is always interfering more?

We are going to be pulled into a global conflict and this time we aren't likely to be the good guys
 
“Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster — and nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life. I cannot help asking those who have forced that situation: Do you realize what you have done?”

No, they don’t realize what they have done, and they’re poised to do more of it. And those of us who warned at the time that the “Arab Spring” would not lead to “the triumph of democracy and progress,” but to “violence, poverty and social disaster,” were dismissed and derided as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes.” And no matter how often the establishment analysts get things wrong, and disastrously, fatally so, they never get called to account, and keep applying the same failed solutions over and over again. Putin to those who supported “Arab Spring” in Middle East: “Do you realize what you have done?”

:lol:

It's amazing to me that people think they can still use the "White Man's Burden" argument.
do tell.......

Ok.

You are arguing against the Arab Spring, yes? Because it led to chaos and violence? That means that you're arguing in favor of Assad, Mubarak, Gaddafi, etc. You are arguing that "they" were better off under a dictatorship, when they could be controlled - as opposed to a popular uprising, because in the aftermath of that, they may choose someone who won't do what we want.

Do you see where I'm going?

Yes. You seem to be under the impression that because Assad, qadaffi, and all the dictators in the middle east were worthless pieces of garbage that we should be supporting their violent overthrow in support of genocidal nutjobs with apocalyptic aspirations when we shouldn't be supporting anyone.

There are more options than support and oppose.

Why does the left always blame the US for the problems we have in the middle east and their solution is always interfering more?

We are going to be pulled into a global conflict and this time we aren't likely to be the good guys

For the most part, we didn't "support" or "oppose" many of the rebellions in the "Arab Spring" countries in any real sense.
 
There is not a single credible source citing Russia is attacking ISIS. They are bombing the rebels that WE SUPPORTED.

Let me get this right....
You're moaning about Russia supporting a side in a war that's nothing to do with them, because they're bombing the people you support in a war that's nothing to do with you.

Yes, I can see how you have the moral high ground there - NOT.
 
Me too, but for different reasons. Obama is a national disgrace.

I dislike Obama - mainly because he's a useless dickhead.
He does have saving graces - He's really bugging the extreme right, and he's proving what a bunch of brain dead idiots that lot are because they can't attacking him on his totally crap policies, concentration on his birth certificate.
Really, the man is a plonker, but the right can't manage a single word against his stupidity, preferring to show how fucking stupid they are instead.

American politics are populated with useless tossers - You need Maggie Thatcher. That great lady is still a million times better than Obama, even though she's been dead for years.
 
There is not a single credible source citing Russia is attacking ISIS. They are bombing the rebels that WE SUPPORTED.

Let me get this right....
You're moaning about Russia supporting a side in a war that's nothing to do with them, because they're bombing the people you support in a war that's nothing to do with you.

Yes, I can see how you have the moral high ground there - NOT.
Russia is bombing the groups who oppose and fight against ISIS. That means Russia is helping ISIS and you are helping ISIS by spreading the Russian propaganda because it supports your agenda. We are trying to destroy ISIS because they are running around Syria and Iraq cutting off the heads of innocent woman and children, forcing young girls into sex slavery, executing civilians in mass, burning people alive and otherwise committing public torture and murder. That is who you are supporting, so, fuck your lectures about morals or who we support. Russia is playing the evil monster in this show.
 
Last week nothing in the ME was worth spilling American blood. yesterday nothing happening in the ME was worth spilling American blood. Tomorrow the situation will not change despite rhetoric and jingoism.
 

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