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Question from a non-American. Do you guys really hate each other?

My God, I can see history is not your strong point.

Mark

Interesting handle, do you have something in common with Hutch Starskey ?

Lol. Nope. I was looking for a handle some years ago and used the name of a car I bought to toy with, a 1980 Mercury Zephyr.

Mark

It so happens that's the car from Starskey & Hutch.

Probably a 351 Cleveland under the hood.
hey dumbass it was a torino not a zephyr


Bullshit. Mercury Zephyr. Same car, btw. :rolleyes:


Starsky and Hutch 1975 Ford Gran Torino - Classic TV Cars
 
Interesting handle, do you have something in common with Hutch Starskey ?

Lol. Nope. I was looking for a handle some years ago and used the name of a car I bought to toy with, a 1980 Mercury Zephyr.

Mark

It so happens that's the car from Starskey & Hutch.

Probably a 351 Cleveland under the hood.
hey dumbass it was a torino not a zephyr


Bullshit. Mercury Zephyr. Same car, btw. :rolleyes:


Starsky and Hutch 1975 Ford Gran Torino - Classic TV Cars

You're right about the Gran Torino, and I was wrong, I suppose.

I could swear there were Zephyrs just like that, though.
 
maybe next time you check yourself before rant
Lol. Nope. I was looking for a handle some years ago and used the name of a car I bought to toy with, a 1980 Mercury Zephyr.

Mark

It so happens that's the car from Starskey & Hutch.

Probably a 351 Cleveland under the hood.
hey dumbass it was a torino not a zephyr


Bullshit. Mercury Zephyr. Same car, btw. :rolleyes:


Starsky and Hutch 1975 Ford Gran Torino - Classic TV Cars

You're right about the Gran Torino, and I was wrong, I suppose.

I could swear there were Zephyrs just like that, though.
maybe next time you will check yourself before making an ass of it


Mercury Zephyr - Wikicars
 
Unions aren't communism they are the only advocate workers have besides Democrats.

Please. Both unions and democrats, live off they confiscate from workers. Advocate my butt. Why is it Republicans have to pass a law, that "allows" workers to work without being forced to fund groups they don't support, if their only advocates are unions and democrats?

Pff..... you people.


That said, if you were actually right.... then I even now, wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with Unions. But I routinely see Unions advocating bad socialistic economic policies. If Unions would stop doing stuff like that, and focus more exclusively on doing what is best for their members, instead of doing what is best for the Unions leadership... then I would be more sympathetic.

I wasn't looking to get into an argument about if unions are corrupt greedy lazy and bloated. That's what Republicans like you told us when you were sending all their good paying jobs overseas. And you wonder why Americans are struggling and not doing as well as we did before they broke our unions. No coincidence as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Another way the rich have widened the gap between us and them.

But now you see how Republicans were able to get away with sending all those jobs overseas. They were all union jobs. So no shit the middle class isn't doing as well today as they were before all their jobs disappeared. No shit Detroit is hurting. You sent all our high paying jobs overseas. Not to Tennessee you passed TN and sent them to Mexico..

Of course unions survive off what they collect from workers. Any worker not paying dues should not be protected by the union but they are. That should stop.

But that is why jobs were going over seas. You create a problem, and the problem leads to a counter actions, and then we told you why it was happening.

What part of that is hard to understand?

The unions broke themselves. They priced themselves above the market, and the market broke them.

You are arguing against the fundamentals of economics, like a crazy person would argue against gravity.

Right-winger "When you step off the edge, you will fall and hurt yourself"

Left-winger "You guys are just telling us we're going to fall, instead of fixing this!"

Consumers are naturally going to migrate towards cheaper alternatives. That's how free markets work. When the Unions made themselves expensive relative to non-union alternatives, then this is what happens.

Don't blame us for the fact that Toyota and Honda did not declare bankruptcy and close a bunch of plants, and even opened new plants, while GM and Chrysler both did.

Don't blame us when Hostess closes down, lays everyone off, and then reopens as a completely profitable, but non-union shop.

Unions destroyed themselves. Not us.

There is no one to blame but the man in the mirror for what has happened to the Unions.
Bottom line is American workers made the most so with or without unions corporations were going to send jobs overseas IF YOU LET THEM and not only did you let them you defended them

NAFTA helped move jobs to Mexico. Corporations did what was in their best interest and moved the manufacturing out of the states to places that had lower wages. The trend started under Clinton in the mid 90's when we were all so enamored with the dot com boom. So, we brought in hi-tech and let manufacturing go, now we can't turn it around, the jobs are gone. Politicians and unions sold out America...again.
Can’t argue that. It’s one of the
Unions aren't communism they are the only advocate workers have besides Democrats.

Please. Both unions and democrats, live off they confiscate from workers. Advocate my butt. Why is it Republicans have to pass a law, that "allows" workers to work without being forced to fund groups they don't support, if their only advocates are unions and democrats?

Pff..... you people.


That said, if you were actually right.... then I even now, wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with Unions. But I routinely see Unions advocating bad socialistic economic policies. If Unions would stop doing stuff like that, and focus more exclusively on doing what is best for their members, instead of doing what is best for the Unions leadership... then I would be more sympathetic.

I wasn't looking to get into an argument about if unions are corrupt greedy lazy and bloated. That's what Republicans like you told us when you were sending all their good paying jobs overseas. And you wonder why Americans are struggling and not doing as well as we did before they broke our unions. No coincidence as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Another way the rich have widened the gap between us and them.

But now you see how Republicans were able to get away with sending all those jobs overseas. They were all union jobs. So no shit the middle class isn't doing as well today as they were before all their jobs disappeared. No shit Detroit is hurting. You sent all our high paying jobs overseas. Not to Tennessee you passed TN and sent them to Mexico..

Of course unions survive off what they collect from workers. Any worker not paying dues should not be protected by the union but they are. That should stop.

But that is why jobs were going over seas. You create a problem, and the problem leads to a counter actions, and then we told you why it was happening.

What part of that is hard to understand?

The unions broke themselves. They priced themselves above the market, and the market broke them.

You are arguing against the fundamentals of economics, like a crazy person would argue against gravity.

Right-winger "When you step off the edge, you will fall and hurt yourself"

Left-winger "You guys are just telling us we're going to fall, instead of fixing this!"

Consumers are naturally going to migrate towards cheaper alternatives. That's how free markets work. When the Unions made themselves expensive relative to non-union alternatives, then this is what happens.

Don't blame us for the fact that Toyota and Honda did not declare bankruptcy and close a bunch of plants, and even opened new plants, while GM and Chrysler both did.

Don't blame us when Hostess closes down, lays everyone off, and then reopens as a completely profitable, but non-union shop.

Unions destroyed themselves. Not us.

There is no one to blame but the man in the mirror for what has happened to the Unions.
Bottom line is American workers made the most so with or without unions corporations were going to send jobs overseas IF YOU LET THEM and not only did you let them you defended them

NAFTA helped move jobs to Mexico. Corporations did what was in their best interest and moved the manufacturing out of the states to places that had lower wages. The trend started under Clinton in the mid 90's when we were all so enamored with the dot com boom. So, we brought in hi-tech and let manufacturing go, now we can't turn it around, the jobs are gone. Politicians and unions sold out America...again.
I was searching for what people in 2009 were saying and I found this

the Reagan Amnesty was a disaster because all it did was encourage millions of illegals to cross the border in hopes of becoming part of the next amnesty folly.

So no this didn't start with NAFTA. And don't forget NAFTA was invented by Bush and Clinton put worker protections in NAFTA before he signed. Guess who took them out? Bush 2.
 
After treating Aboriginies like animals for a hundred years up until the 1960's or 70's a hypocrite Aussie has the balls to lecture Americans about equality. Go figure.

I am not lecturing anyone, and I don't think I even touched upon the topic of equality in my original post. Also I agree, my country was awful to the Aboriginal people for a long time, and even today there is still a lot of work to be done to make up for that.

My country is far from perfect, I am happy to admit that, but I did not think you guys would be too interested hearing about those issues since I doubt many Americans really care about how the National Broadband Network in Australia is being mismanaged, or how my country has perfected internal party backstabbing so well that we are changing Prime Ministers every 2 years.
Maybe Aussies need to solve their own problems instead of imagining problems in the U.S.
Maybe she makes a lot more sense than your last two comments.
Why don't Americans consider it insulting for an Australian who has apparently never visited the U.S. to make dangerous and inaccurate assumptions about the U.S.? Does the hatred that the left manages to maintain for the President filter down to hatred for your own Country? Maybe the problem lies in the education system that teaches more about putting a condom on a banana than the Constitution and the inherent freedom of the greatest Country in the world.
 
The right hates everyone that they feel doesn't measure up to their archaic standards.

The left just wants the best for everyone.

LefTard Logic:
“Archaic standards = accountability, productivity, morality, decency, normalcy, Constitutional adherence, Christianity, heterosexuality.”

LefTard Logic:
“Archaic standards = accountability, productivity, morality, decency, normalcy, Constitutional adherence, Christianity, heterosexuality.”

Exactly what I said. Thanks for the example.

You don’t have to ‘say it’ bud....we know exactly what’s going on in your tiny little twisted mind...trust me, we know.

LOL
I already said it. You confirmed it.

Off-topic.

What was Hutch's name, faggot? Within 5 minutes.

You dopes just can't stop yourselves from making my point. Good job.
 
I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?

YES
I hate the LefTarded like Hitler hated Jews.....but worse.
Of course you are incredibly misinformed, brainwashed functional racist ignoramus...none of the GOP phony scandals you believe has ever made it to the real world, super duper. The ignorant really do hate being shown their idiocy.... Go out and beat up some gays or Jews why don't you...
 
  • No other successful
American politics are no different from any other country with the exception of living in an authoritarian regime in which case you might want to keep your opinion mostly to yourself especially if it is against the government.

Instead politics in most countries makes your fellow citizen an enemy

Some countries excel in the politics of hate

The more freedom you have as a citizen, the probability is you will hate the opposition

Just ask any repub

Truly happy people probably never talk about politics
No other modern country has a giant right-wing hate propaganda machine like the GOP does. A total disgrace, like dupes who believe all those phony scandals and factual misinformation. That's how they come away with the impression that Iraq had wmds, the rich pay too much in taxes, etc etc. Brainwashed functional morons. And now it seems like Fox and friends are now running our ignorant president...
 
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
 
feel bett
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
feel better now???
 
feel bett
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
feel better now???
The brainwashed always totally miss the point.
 
feel bett
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
feel better now???
The brainwashed always totally miss the point.
say no to the kool-aid
 
I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?


The LEFT is angry at liberals for NOT being leftwing
The LEFT is angry at moderates for NOT being left wing
The LEFT HATES conservatives and right wingers.

Liberals think the left are scary but don't hate them
Liberals are disappointed that moderates are not liberals
Liberals think conservatives are wrong and wish they'd stop listening to rush limbaugh
Liberals are truly frightened by the right wing and think they are deranged.

Moderates think everyone else should stop shouting and just try to get along.

Conservatives think the left are commies and nazis
Conservatives think liberals are commies and nazis
Conservatives think moderates should listen to rush limbaugh on a regular basis
Conservatives think right wingers don't actually exist

Right wingers think conservatives are too liberal
Right wingers think that moderates are too liberal
Right wingers think liberals are nazis and fascists and commies and traitors
Right wingers think left wingers are worse than liberals
Right wingers hate everyone who is NOT a right winger

there

all explained.

MOST of us are NOT hateful deranged message board posters.

For every deranged PoliticalChic on a message board there are millions of decent Americans who get along with most everyone.
 
feel bett
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
feel better now???
The brainwashed always totally miss the point.
say no to the kool-aid
95% of the people in the world know you are nuts, so misinformed and propagandized. Everything you know is garbage, I've given you a million examples and you have nothing but stupid talking points and idiotic insults super duper.
 
I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?


The LEFT is angry at liberals for NOT being leftwing
The LEFT is angry at moderates for NOT being left wing
The LEFT HATES conservatives and right wingers.

Liberals think the left are scary but don't hate them
Liberals are disappointed that moderates are not liberals
Liberals think conservatives are wrong and wish they'd stop listening to rush limbaugh
Liberals are truly frightened by the right wing and think they are deranged.

Moderates think everyone else should stop shouting and just try to get along.

Conservatives think the left are commies and nazis
Conservatives think liberals are commies and nazis
Conservatives think moderates should listen to rush limbaugh on a regular basis
Conservatives think right wingers don't actually exist

Right wingers think conservatives are too liberal
Right wingers think that moderates are too liberal
Right wingers think liberals are nazis and fascists and commies and traitors
Right wingers think left wingers are worse than liberals
Right wingers hate everyone who is NOT a right winger

there

all explained.

MOST of us are NOT hateful deranged message board posters.

For every deranged PoliticalChic on a message board there are millions of decent Americans who get along with most everyone.
Conservatives are misinformed and Nazis are right wing I'm sorry. The book liberal fascism is absolute crap and that was when the idea started just as the theory that Nazis are socialists. Just more Nazi propaganda as far as their name goes.
 
You are misguided. Sure both parties have to serve the rich but we all know the GOP is the party of the really rich and powerful who are

anti union
anti sick days
anti minimum wage
anti labor laws

We all know who the real party of the rich is. It's republicans. Take for example all the Supreme Court justices. The conservative ones always side with business and the liberal ones who democrats appointed consider the people's needs and wishes too not just the corporations.

You do know that the entire system is corrupted right? You have to be a millionaire to be a politician. And you have to raise millions so of course both sides have to cater to the rich.

Do you want campaign finance reform?

One more thing to prove how wrong you are. Which party wants the poor to show up and vote? And which party does the poor mostly vote for? The Democrats you say? That's right. So don't give me that shit that it's the Dems who are the party of the rich. That's just right wing spin.

Are you lying or do you believe what you said? Be honest. One reply will make you look stupid. One answer will prove you know you are full of shit.

You want proof? If you really believe that the rich are in it for themselves, why would the richest districts in America vote for Democrats instead of Republicans? Do you really believe that they are voting against their own self interests?

Be honest.

Mark
well since democrats want the people poor and complacent it makes sense

where as most republicans want people independent and prosperous and not a burden to humanity

All I can tell you is what Michigan was like when unions ruled. The Big 3 made record profits and so did their employees. The UAW created a middle class the world has never seen before. But you Republicans didn't like sharing profits with the workers so you sent all their jobs overseas but first you spent a decade badmouthing the unions.

The American people don't realize the only reason they make as much as they do today is because of unions.

Democrats want a huge fat big middle class. Republican policies create a small rich class, small middle/merchant class and the masses are poor. Basically what we have right now is the Republicans wet dream. MAGA my ass.
OH yeah detroit is in great shape now,,,thanks to the unions
Well you defended the corporations who sent all those high paying jobs overseas

And you defended illegal immigrants for doing jobs Americans won’t do

And cheap shit from China

Republicans are stupid. At least the lower middle class ones are

If you can't provide me a great product, and China can... whose fault is that?

Democrats are stupid. At least the lower to upper class ones are.
 
feel bett
Funny how the only actual spike in violence is against Jews blacks gays and Muslims, isn't it. The rest of the world hates your lies and Bs, not your ignorant brainwashed ass. Democrats on here argue the facts, while you hater dupes go ballistic against the actual people you're arguing with. Pretty typical example of how the ignorant get violent. I call you brainwashed functional morons, a political fact, the dupes call me fagot, s*******, you name it---stupid personal insults.
feel better now???
The brainwashed always totally miss the point.
say no to the kool-aid
95% of the people in the world know you are nuts, so misinformed and propagandized. Everything you know is garbage, I've given you a million examples and you have nothing but stupid talking points and idiotic insults super duper.
WHAT???

I was agreeing with you
 
I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?
In a nation like the US, there are trends.
The two parties used to be quite similar.
But in recent years, the GOP has grown apart from US values.
It's a party that has a base that claims to be religious, is mostly white, with a leadership that cares more about corporations than people. Even many Republicans now claim that corporations are people and must be protected over "real" people. The GOP leadership lives to loot the country.
The GOP has grown into a nearly all white party home to remnants of the KKK, the American Nazi Party, the Alt White, white supremacists and the Aryan Nation. Occasionally, some deny it, but most are on board. And the one thing, education, that could get the GOP out of their tragic slump, they believe is bad for America. It's like a sick person believing medicine that could cure their illness is actually poison. Sadly, that's the actual case for many Republicans.
Many Republicans say the immigrants are carriers of disease. But since Republicans feel vaccines cause autism, when they don't even know what autism is, because their children are unvaccinated, it's the children of immigrants who need to worry about catching something from Republicans.
It won't last forever.
In the 30's, when there was the great dust bowl, conservatives destroyed the land. When government scientists came in and showed them how to reclaim abused land, at first, they fought it, but after a while, when farmers could see those methods worked, they were adopted. And ones that didn't were forced into it by their neighbors. And today, those methods are used without question all over the midwest.
It will be painful, but it will happen to right wingers once again. They will be tired of having nothing, of being uneducated, of being looked down on. They will eventually seek education and become competitive. They just haven't figured that out yet.
 

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