Question from a non-American. Do you guys really hate each other?

[francoHFW]

I am middle of the road most of the time but I hate democrats and republicans.

You are misinformed. Unless you are a greedy racist idiot, everyone should be a Democrat.

 

[progressive hunter]

My smartphone has lost it. later...
For a progressive you sure do believe pile of GOP propaganda. LOL. The GOP has been cutting taxes on the rich and opportunity for the rest for 35 years, and you blame the victims. Brainwashed and stupid.

when did I blame victims???

and I hunt progressives,,,

and they cut taxs on everyone not just the rich, which is always a good thing for the people to keep what they earned ,,,the problem is they never cut spending

Apparently, he believes the democrats have been slowly rotating on their thumbs the last several decades.

Beside Obamacare, the Democrats have been obstructed since LBJ.

fuck obamacare you socialist prick,,,get


GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DOCTORS OFFICE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU SOCIALIST PRICK

The old GOP scam Health system cost the country 18% of GDP and was a disgrace. You are a brainwashed functional moron. It's getting cheaper now and your care is guaranteed. Excepting garbage red states of course... If you are poor and live in a red State you're still screwed. By the way, 75% of those on the exchanges get Healthcare for less than $100 a month.
Everything you know is wrong and total b******* GOP propaganda, super duper.

the feds have no legal authority to be involved in my private healthcare..........................

you dont like it here move back to russia

 

[francoHFW]

Buffett said he pays about 16 percent in income taxes, while any employee making between $100,000 and $200,000 typically pays about 20 percent in taxes. We rate this claim True. Says Warren Buffett has publicly said his secretary "should not be paying a higher tax rate" than him.

I doubt Buffet even knows his actual EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. He is mixing corporate, personal and everything else which the average wage earner can not do. The bottom line is the top 20% pay 88% of the Federal Income Tax. So that includes households making over $200 - $250K per year and up. They are the one getting SOAKED.

The point is that you are a brainwashed functional moron. If you count all taxes, everyone including the poor pay between 18 - 30%. Thanks to the GOP reconciliation law, it takes 51 volts to cut taxes and 60 votes in the Senate 2 raise taxes or 4 reform.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/?utm_term=.991ec4e6ab6d&ved=2ahUKEwi75ra0ieTfAhWRct8KHfugC7oQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1X02DQRlAY-wGLvC86rLgE
Read this look at the graph learn something for a change. Change the channel and read a newspaper, super duper. Situation just gets worse and worse for the middle class and the country.

I see what youre trying to do by lumping all taxs in and blaming trump and the GOP for them,,,thats just dishonest

try sticking to one subject please

The topic is taxes and if you only can talk about federal income tax, you are a brainwashed functional GOP moron.

if youre going to blame trump and the gop then we are only talking about income taxs you dumb fuck

Read the article look at the graph, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[progressive hunter]

I am middle of the road most of the time but I hate democrats and republicans.

You are misinformed. Unless you are a greedy racist idiot, everyone should be a Democrat.

theres a reason inbreeding is illegal

 

[francoHFW]

when did I blame victims???

and I hunt progressives,,,

and they cut taxs on everyone not just the rich, which is always a good thing for the people to keep what they earned ,,,the problem is they never cut spending

Apparently, he believes the democrats have been slowly rotating on their thumbs the last several decades.

Beside Obamacare, the Democrats have been obstructed since LBJ.

fuck obamacare you socialist prick,,,get


GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DOCTORS OFFICE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU SOCIALIST PRICK

The old GOP scam Health system cost the country 18% of GDP and was a disgrace. You are a brainwashed functional moron. It's getting cheaper now and your care is guaranteed. Excepting garbage red states of course... If you are poor and live in a red State you're still screwed. By the way, 75% of those on the exchanges get Healthcare for less than $100 a month.
Everything you know is wrong and total b******* GOP propaganda, super duper.

the feds have no legal authority to be involved in my private healthcare..........................

you dont like it here move back to russia

Actually the same Supreme Court says they can, brain-washed functional Moron. If you don't like it move back to Somalia.

 

[progressive hunter]

Apparently, he believes the democrats have been slowly rotating on their thumbs the last several decades.

Beside Obamacare, the Democrats have been obstructed since LBJ.

fuck obamacare you socialist prick,,,get


GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DOCTORS OFFICE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU SOCIALIST PRICK

The old GOP scam Health system cost the country 18% of GDP and was a disgrace. You are a brainwashed functional moron. It's getting cheaper now and your care is guaranteed. Excepting garbage red states of course... If you are poor and live in a red State you're still screwed. By the way, 75% of those on the exchanges get Healthcare for less than $100 a month.
Everything you know is wrong and total b******* GOP propaganda, super duper.

the feds have no legal authority to be involved in my private healthcare..........................

you dont like it here move back to russia

Actually the same Supreme Court says they can, brain-washed functional Moron. If you don't like it move back to Somalia.

thats same court is about to stop you baby killers from killing more babies

 

[francoHFW]

I am middle of the road most of the time but I hate democrats and republicans.

You are misinformed. Unless you are a greedy racist idiot, everyone should be a Democrat.

theres a reason inbreeding is illegal

Illegal but still typical in rural GOP territory...

 

[francoHFW]

Beside Obamacare, the Democrats have been obstructed since LBJ.

fuck obamacare you socialist prick,,,get


GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DOCTORS OFFICE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU SOCIALIST PRICK

The old GOP scam Health system cost the country 18% of GDP and was a disgrace. You are a brainwashed functional moron. It's getting cheaper now and your care is guaranteed. Excepting garbage red states of course... If you are poor and live in a red State you're still screwed. By the way, 75% of those on the exchanges get Healthcare for less than $100 a month.
Everything you know is wrong and total b******* GOP propaganda, super duper.

the feds have no legal authority to be involved in my private healthcare..........................

you dont like it here move back to russia

Actually the same Supreme Court says they can, brain-washed functional Moron. If you don't like it move back to Somalia.

thats same court is about to stop you baby killers from killing more babies

Nobody believes that but brainwashed functional GOP morons. They may be GOP Supremes but they are still competent, not brainwashed functional morons like you.

 

[francoHFW]

I am

You said a leftist thinks he can take your money and give it to someone else. I'm assuming you were talking about our progressive tax system? Yea, Lincoln started that. So you must think he's a leftist.

Isn't it weird when your talking points get blown up?

The fact is the people who ran the country back then aren't nearly as greedy as Republicans are today. Today Lincoln would be a liberal/progressive/leftist or rino.

what did lincoln spend the money on???

I don't know you tell me.

you brought it up,,,I was specific in my claim so the least you could do is put up or shut up

He spent it on the war duh... LOL

just wanted him to prove it,,,incoherent rants need to be called out

as per my claim, he didnt give it to single mothers of bastard children,,,

No we are much more civilized now, and less racist of course. Thank you Democrats, no thanks to selfish greedy brainwashed a****** Republicans of the last 35 years...

 

[Pilot1]

payroll taxs are income taxs you dumb fuck

ALL taxes are income taxes as our income is the only way we can pay for things.

 

[progressive hunter]

payroll taxs are income taxs you dumb fuck

ALL taxes are income taxes as our income is the only way we can pay for things.

not even close,,, only income taxs are deemed so,, the rest are based on activity

 

[francoHFW]

Beside Obamacare, the Democrats have been obstructed since LBJ.

fuck obamacare you socialist prick,,,get


GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DOCTORS OFFICE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU SOCIALIST PRICK

The old GOP scam Health system cost the country 18% of GDP and was a disgrace. You are a brainwashed functional moron. It's getting cheaper now and your care is guaranteed. Excepting garbage red states of course... If you are poor and live in a red State you're still screwed. By the way, 75% of those on the exchanges get Healthcare for less than $100 a month.
Everything you know is wrong and total b******* GOP propaganda, super duper.

the feds have no legal authority to be involved in my private healthcare..........................

you dont like it here move back to russia

Actually the same Supreme Court says they can, brain-washed functional Moron. If you don't like it move back to Somalia.

thats same court is about to stop you baby killers from killing more babies

No substance is thicker then GOP skull...

 

[sealybobo]

Buffett said he pays about 16 percent in income taxes, while any employee making between $100,000 and $200,000 typically pays about 20 percent in taxes. We rate this claim True. Says Warren Buffett has publicly said his secretary "should not be paying a higher tax rate" than him.

I doubt Buffet even knows his actual EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. He is mixing corporate, personal and everything else which the average wage earner can not do. The bottom line is the top 20% pay 88% of the Federal Income Tax. So that includes households making over $200 - $250K per year and up. They are the one getting SOAKED.

The point is that you are a brainwashed functional moron. If you count all taxes, everyone including the poor pay between 18 - 30%. Thanks to the GOP reconciliation law, it takes 51 volts to cut taxes and 60 votes in the Senate 2 raise taxes or 4 reform.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/?utm_term=.991ec4e6ab6d&ved=2ahUKEwi75ra0ieTfAhWRct8KHfugC7oQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1X02DQRlAY-wGLvC86rLgE
Read this look at the graph learn something for a change. Change the channel and read a newspaper, super duper. Situation just gets worse and worse for the middle class and the country.

play make believe all you want but the poor dont pay any income taxs,,

I know that cause I are one

sorry but youre the one thats brainwashed if you believe what you said

A poor republican? What’s your hangup god gays guns and racism?

 

[sealybobo]

I am middle of the road most of the time but I hate democrats and republicans.

Then the republicans are happy. If they can’t win you over then they convince you there both equally bad.

Do you like a strong middle class? Then vote democrat

 

[Pilot1]

It's the ECONOMY stupid. Raise tax rates on businesses, and high earners, and they GO TO IRELAND. Look what lower tax rates did for IRELAND.

We have record tax revenue in the U.S. right now due to economic expansion.

 

[francoHFW]

It's the ECONOMY stupid. Raise tax rates on businesses, and high earners, and they GO TO IRELAND. Look what lower tax rates did for IRELAND.

We have record tax revenue in the U.S. right now due to economic expansion.

And inequality and upward Mobility just keep getting worse and worse and worse, super duper. 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich.

 

[hadit]

It's the ECONOMY stupid. Raise tax rates on businesses, and high earners, and they GO TO IRELAND. Look what lower tax rates did for IRELAND.

We have record tax revenue in the U.S. right now due to economic expansion.

And inequality and upward Mobility just keep getting worse and worse and worse, super duper. 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich.

You keep saying that like it matters.

 

[Issa]

I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?

As someone who moved here 20 years ago here is a breakdown:
Republicans or conservatives in general are racists. Liberals are more open minded and globalists.
The divide got a lot worse after trump got elected, and that should've never happened if the US had a democratic system. Now you have the crazy, racist and uneducated minority dragging the majority to the cliff.

I say it is just a matter of time before there is a civil war again....the south never evolved from the slavery era.

 

[sealybobo]

It's the ECONOMY stupid. Raise tax rates on businesses, and high earners, and they GO TO IRELAND. Look what lower tax rates did for IRELAND.

We have record tax revenue in the U.S. right now due to economic expansion.

That claim was deemed mostly false
Did the U.S. have a record tax haul after Trump tax cuts?

Don't you dare challenge the source. Challenge the facts contained within.

 

[Issa]

The Left has been on a campaign, a Jihad, to "fundamentally transform" America, that doesn't sit well with many

The thing is though is that your country is very evenly split. Haven't all elections in the last 20 years been within about 5% of each other? That would indicate that one side is not necessarily right about what America should be, as both sides have a huge percentage of the population with them.

America is divided big cities tend to be more 2019...rural areas are still stuck in 18th century.