EverCurious
Gold Member
Son I didn't give any numbers, nor did I give a poll. I don't believe in polls because pretty much anyone can make a poll say anything they want it to. Polls are bullshit, all of them.
All I'm saying is that a vast swath of the American public is onto the fact that the MSM is full of shit and they've stopped watching it. The polls the MSM cite are polls they do of folks watching their shows - which means, they're automatically biased. The ones put out by right leaning sites are also biased, automatically, inherently biased.
Show me where the poll has anything to do with the "MSM". Show me any link to this purported poll at all.
Kinda odd that you "don't believe in polls" and yet simultaneously believe this one is derived from the MSM, without any evidence. Doncha think?
Having it both ways: Priceless
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Come off it Pogo, I know you're not that stupid; don't try to pretend to be it just makes you look like a partisan hack.
Many of the polls being talked about in here are MSM polls, but as I said, it doesn't matter /who/ does the polls, they're all inherently biased.
I asked you how you have the basis that this alleged poll is of "folks who still watch the MSM".
And the record shows you have no answer.
Which poll was I "incorrectly" talking about? There were /many/ polls being touted in the thread, I noted that the ones which were being posted up as some kind of evidence were MSM biased polls, and I also noted that /all/ polls are inherently biased.
Son I didn't give any numbers, nor did I give a poll. I don't believe in polls because pretty much anyone can make a poll say anything they want it to. Polls are bullshit, all of them.
All I'm saying is that a vast swath of the American public is onto the fact that the MSM is full of shit and they've stopped watching it. The polls the MSM cite are polls they do of folks watching their shows - which means, they're automatically biased. The ones put out by right leaning sites are also biased, automatically, inherently biased.
That was, and continues to be, my answer. ~shrug~
Watch Rubin's recent interview with the former National Public Radio CEO about "leaving the liberal bubble" and you should be able to get what I'm saying. They're both far more... patient with their wording than I.
What continues to have been your assertion is that this specific poll was targeted to "those who still watch MSM" and more problematically that they're "all biased". Not only can't you back either of those up but the blanket statement reveals you just don't know how polls work. There's absolutely a science to designing polls so that they're not biased.
Sure it's possible to put a biased one together or a 'push-poll". I've dealt with both, and the difference is clear, but the fact that it's possible to bias a poll in no way means they 'all" are. That's why you first examine the methodology, which will quickly reveal whether that bias is there or not. And for this poll we don't have one. So far we don't even have a link to a poll at all, just Alex Freaking Jones claiming it exists. Without some meat on those bones it's impossible to say who it surveyed, or what it actually says.
Son, you're having a comprehension problem. Again, what did I say?
The polls the MSM cite are polls they do of folks watching their shows - which means, they're automatically biased. The ones put out by right leaning sites are also biased, automatically, inherently biased.
As I noted, I wasn't specifically talking about the OP's Ramussen poll, it even fucking says it in my god damn quote, which I've now posted three times trying to let you bow out gracefully from your comprehension failure.
It is blatantly obvious to the entire country that the polls didn't work and that they were massively biased left (for Clinton for example), no one really fucking questions that but you partisan hacks. I pointed you to a video about the liberal bubble, from a fucking former NPR [AKA NEWS] CEO no less, which more than substantiates my claim that the MSM bubble dwellers are voting on these MSM polls and thus they are inherently biased. The same goes for whatever Alex Jones polls being biased toward the right-wing bubble.
Look, you can bitch about being wrong all you want, but I think folks in the thread know that you've talked yourself into a circle over nothing here. Could ya a grip please, I'm getting super tired of repeatedly playing your stupid "gotcha games" where you try to back peddle yourself out of your mistakes like a damned six year old. I used to at least somewhat appreciate your posts because you used to put some thought into them, but lately you've lost your damned mind and gone full troll. I don't "discuss" with trolls son, they're just not worth my time. I'd much rather not put you on my "troll list" because I think there's a lot of shit we see eye to eye on that you articulate very well, if you stopped with the bullshit games and hatred you'd have a much better chance of educating folks, or at least guiding them to a path of discovering the "reality" for themselves. You and I both know damn well that the MSM is biased as fuck and that their polls were off because of their biased viewership, why the fuck are you destroying your credibility in order to prop up a blatantly flawed polling system? What the hell is the purpose of doing that to yourself?
Whatever, it's just a damn shame to see seemingly reasonable folks lose it like this over something so stupid as polls. Just sad really. Is your life so wrapped up in politics and your side winning that you can't bare to lose such a weak thread as polls? Ugh man, if it is, do go find a new hobby because seriously that's not healthy.