Re-Evaluating Newt..

If you are a teacher or a doctor to make gobs of money, you are doing it for the wrong reason.

Sounds like some good old Catholic socialist teaching there.

Please concentrate. You were comparing costs per student. One of the reasons that the costs are lower is that Catholic schools don't have the cost of building schools added into that number. Public schools do.

I just don't understand this bizarre focus you have on buildings.

The fact is, both systems have buildings. When the buildings get too old to work, they get torn down and they build new ones, and they both have to find it in their budgets to do that.

Except when the public system builds new buldings, they find ways to waste money with all the government regulation.

When I took science classes in the 1970's, we used a science lab that was built in the 1920's. Seriously, it looked like it was out of an old movie. They got the job done, though. They tore that building down subsequently.

Public education wastes money. They aren't run with a focus. They throw money at every concern with no looking at the bottom line, because, hey, it ain't their money.

I don't understand why you endless argue obvious points, and then claim that your opponent has a fixation. You like to load your posts up with bullshit as a diversion. I'm not playing. We are talking about your per student cost comparisons.

The Church provides the building. That means that the expense of the building is not included in that number that you're touting.

Try moving on to another point now.

Why, I'm having so much fun on this one.

Where do you think Catholic School buildings come from. Do you think God drops them down from the sky or something?

No, they come from the same place Public School buildings come from. They set aside money in a budget to build a building, and then they hire contractors to build it.

The Church doesn't provide a building, it is part of the cost.
 
Why, I'm having so much fun on this one.

Where do you think Catholic School buildings come from. Do you think God drops them down from the sky or something?

No, they come from the same place Public School buildings come from. They set aside money in a budget to build a building, and then they hire contractors to build it.

The Church doesn't provide a building, it is part of the cost.

Fine, because I have lots of patience with those who are slow to grasp a point.

I think that they come from the Church, and that the cost is not a part of the cost per pupil ratio that you cited, so your comparison is illogical.
 
Why, I'm having so much fun on this one.

Where do you think Catholic School buildings come from. Do you think God drops them down from the sky or something?

No, they come from the same place Public School buildings come from. They set aside money in a budget to build a building, and then they hire contractors to build it.

The Church doesn't provide a building, it is part of the cost.

Fine, because I have lots of patience with those who are slow to grasp a point.

I think that they come from the Church, and that the cost is not a part of the cost per pupil ratio that you cited, so your comparison is illogical.

Where does the "Church" get the money? I mean do you think God dropped that off?

No, the Church gets the money through tuition. The PUblic school gets it through taxes. So they are BOTH part of the per-pupil expendature.
 
Have to wonder if SAT is one of these people.

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That shoe would be on your foot. Even when I explain the financial support in-kind of the Catholic church to their schools, you cannot grasp the point.
 
As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.
 
As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

All those Republicans who voted Yay are RINOs.
 
As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

So what's the problem with that, the Republicans did the right and honorable thing?

Gingrich agreed he broke the House rules and paid the price, also the right thing to do..

Shall we compare the Democrats reaction and votes in the Clinton impeachment as to doing the right and honorable thing... did Democrats step up to the plate...:rofl:
 
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As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

So what's the problem with that, the Republicans did the right and honorable thing?

Gingrich agreed he broke the House rules and paid the price, also the right thing to do..

Shall we compare the Democrats reaction and votes in the Clinton impeachment as to doing the right and honorable thing... did Democrats step up to the plate...:rofl:

So have you been reading the thread, and you think that the only move you've got it to run off in another direction and hope that we follow, or did you just drop in to see how your thread was doing?
 
As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

All those Republicans who voted Yay are RINOs.

You missed the point it seems...:D
 
The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

So what's the problem with that, the Republicans did the right and honorable thing?

Gingrich agreed he broke the House rules and paid the price, also the right thing to do..

Shall we compare the Democrats reaction and votes in the Clinton impeachment as to doing the right and honorable thing... did Democrats step up to the plate...:rofl:

So have you been reading the thread, and you think that the only move you've got it to run off in another direction and hope that we follow, or did you just drop in to see how your thread was doing?

You're not worth my time...perhaps after you extricate your head from Obama's ass..
 
As usual your missing the point...

I believe there were 84 fishing expeditions on Newt by Democrats, mostly a waste time and taxpayers money strictly for vindictive reasons.

The vote on Newt's ethics violation in the republican majority House was 395 to 28.

Read that again ---> 395 to 28.

The Ethics committee at the time was chaired by a republican.

395 to 28. That's a bi-partisan smackdown, by any one's standards.

And if you recall, the point of it was that the Majority would agree to the ONE minor violation occurred for the dismissal of the other 85. And this was something Newt and the leadership worked on.

This was the whole point of the illegal wiretap of Newts phone by the old couple that just happened to have a car full of recording equipment, and they gave the tape to Baghdad Jim McDermont....
 
And if you recall, the point of it was that the Majority would agree to the ONE minor violation occurred for the dismissal of the other 85. And this was something Newt and the leadership worked on.

This was the whole point of the illegal wiretap of Newts phone by the old couple that just happened to have a car full of recording equipment, and they gave the tape to Baghdad Jim McDermont....

What I recall is that it was one of at two occasions where Newt got caught doing what he was attacking others for.
 
Well, you seem to think that the Church can magically make buildings appear... not me. :badgrin::lol::badgrin::rofl:

I hope you don't work with numbers.

actually, I do, all the time. Handle 4 million dollars in purchases a year. Saved my company $400,000 in improved purchases in the last two. Thanks for asking.

The fact is, your comment about buildings not being a concern for Catholics was retarded, and you know it.

Both systems have the same issues in putting up buildings and maintaining them.

Except the Catholics do it efficiently.
 
Well, you seem to think that the Church can magically make buildings appear... not me. :badgrin::lol::badgrin::rofl:

I hope you don't work with numbers.

actually, I do, all the time. Handle 4 million dollars in purchases a year. Saved my company $400,000 in improved purchases in the last two. Thanks for asking.

The fact is, your comment about buildings not being a concern for Catholics was retarded, and you know it.

Both systems have the same issues in putting up buildings and maintaining them.

Except the Catholics do it efficiently.

Then I'm sorry for your employer.

The building is built by the church, and is provided to the school. Public schools have to provide the building, and that cost is a part of your per-pupil expenditure number for public schools.
 
I hope you don't work with numbers.

actually, I do, all the time. Handle 4 million dollars in purchases a year. Saved my company $400,000 in improved purchases in the last two. Thanks for asking.

The fact is, your comment about buildings not being a concern for Catholics was retarded, and you know it.

Both systems have the same issues in putting up buildings and maintaining them.

Except the Catholics do it efficiently.

Then I'm sorry for your employer.

The building is built by the church, and is provided to the school. Public schools have to provide the building, and that cost is a part of your per-pupil expenditure number for public schools.

My employer loves the heck out of me, man. I'm the go to guy for solving problems.

But again, when you say that the building is "built by the Church", where did the Church get the money?

Oh, that's right. from Tuition.

Oh, some of those buildings were built back in the day when they got a lot more in the collection plate, but really, Tuition is the main source of funding for these schools.

Incidently, I don't think either system spends all that much in building and maintenance costs. Most go to employee salaries, books, utilities, etc. And the Public Schools get a lot more subsidies than the Catholics do. For instance, the whole school lunch program. Catholics have to brown bag it or pay for food in a cafeteria.
 
By far the best debater and most informed candidate and could easily kick Obama's ass in a debate...

Turned Clinton from a deficit spending President in a fortunate economy to a budget surplus and Democrat pro-sexual harassment hero..

Soo.. what's your beef with this Guy...?

He's no Ron Paul.
Ron is the most consistent candidate on every issue. Has the most extensive budget cuts in his plan more than any other candidate (which is what this country desperately needs). Always refers to the Constitution whenever voting which means he's one of the few if not the only current member of congress that has done that. He wishes to audit the federal reserve which we all know caused the collapse of the dollar. He wants to end an illegal needless seemingly endless war. Turn off your TV and open your minds.
 

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