Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[CrusaderFrank]

We have documentary evidence that Geo. Washington was president.

What we don't have is any evidence ever that Alger Hiss was a spy. He was never convicted of spying. And most of the so-called evidence turned out to be bogus.

Also, after the Cold War they asked the Russians, who said, "NOpe, not one of ours!"

So we're relying on the Soviets to confirm they had spies?

I thought you were? You were the one who claimed that there were more people working for Stalin than FDR in the FDR White HOuse.

It would be nice if you could prove even the most famous one actually was.

You dismissed venona as fictional (probably because you're totally ignorant about it) and now you're claiming that we can indeed rely on Soviet sources. Are you schizophrenic

 

[JoeB131]

So we're relying on the Soviets to confirm they had spies?

I thought you were? You were the one who claimed that there were more people working for Stalin than FDR in the FDR White HOuse.

It would be nice if you could prove even the most famous one actually was.

You dismissed venona as fictional (probably because you're totally ignorant about it) and now you're claiming that we can indeed rely on Soviet sources. Are you schizophrenic

No, I just pointed out that Venona was horseshit, a lot of guys at the CIA trying to not look as inept as they were.

Frankly, the evidence against Hiss is pretty thin, but the Right wing will claim he was a communist to this very day.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

In any event more people in the FDR White House reported to Stalin than to FDR

Okay, McCarthy, there's a commie hiding under your bed.

(Did you miss the whole 1950's when we realized your sort were nuts?)

You should educate yourself on the issue before posting propaganda you learned in the government schools. You might start with books by Evans Stanton and Diana West.

advise you should ALSO be giving to trolls CRUSADER RETARD,TROLLSTYLE and the one with the appropriate user name MEATHEAD since thats exactly what he is.

you really should follow their posts,you would see how they evade facts on the corruption of reagan running off with their tail between their legs when they are cornered,and then change the subject.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The Soviets admitted they had spies in the FDR White House. Were you asleep next to Rip Van Winkle the last 2 decades?

No, they CLAIMED they did after everyone involved was already dead and couldn't deny it.

That's not the same thing.

Your post is utter and complete nonsense. Please stop.

You do not know the truth about this subject.

again thats the kind of posts that you should be posting to the reaganut worshippers here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

At least we've established that Coolidge was better then The Gipper

amen to that.

simple to prove actually since Coolidge was none of these things below and didnt do any of these things that reagan did either.

Liar
•Thief
•Mass murderer
•Supporter of abortion
•War criminal
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•Destroyer of freedom
•Traitor of the American people
•Corporate whore
•Destroyer of the environment
•Supporter of Satanists & child murderers

Like I said before,if those things make Reagan a great leader,then I hate to even imagine what the reaganut worshippers opinion of Hilter and Stalin is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Okay, McCarthy, there's a commie hiding under your bed.

(Did you miss the whole 1950's when we realized your sort were nuts?)

You should educate yourself on the issue before posting propaganda you learned in the government schools. You might start with books by Evans Stanton and Diana West.

advise you should ALSO be giving to trolls CRUSADER RETARD,TROLLSTYLE and the one with the appropriate user name MEATHEAD since thats exactly what he is.

you really should follow their posts,you would see how they evade facts on the corruption of reagan running off with their tail between their legs when they are cornered,and then change the subject.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/revie...-of-senator-joe-mccarthy-m-stanton-evans.html

Mark Rochelle chimed in on this thread

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

someone farted in here.

Someone is a 12 year old

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.

 

[hunarcy]

What we don't have is any evidence ever that Alger Hiss was a spy. He was never convicted of spying. And most of the so-called evidence turned out to be bogus.

Alger Hiss lost a civil suit for defamation over Chamber's claim he was a spy, AND lost 2 perjury trials over the question as to whether he was a spy. The only reason he wasn't convicted of spying is that the statute of limitations had expired for bringing that charge.

And, as for your claim that the Soviets said Hiss wasn't one of theirs, Volkogonov left "wiggle room". "Later, the general admitted that the search had not been thorough, that it could not be complete because files had been destroyed, and that he could not speak for other intelligence agencies, just the KGB. He did not offer to check again, and the old Soviet warhorse was quoted as saying Hiss’s attorney had pressured him into giving his client the clearance."

AIM Report: Media Won?t Give Up on Red Spy Alger Hiss ? July B

So, obviously the issue is still not settled.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What we don't have is any evidence ever that Alger Hiss was a spy. He was never convicted of spying. And most of the so-called evidence turned out to be bogus.

Alger Hiss lost a civil suit for defamation over Chamber's claim he was a spy, AND lost 2 perjury trials over the question as to whether he was a spy. The only reason he wasn't convicted of spying is that the statute of limitations had expired for bringing that charge.

And, as for your claim that the Soviets said Hiss wasn't one of theirs, Volkogonov left "wiggle room". "Later, the general admitted that the search had not been thorough, that it could not be complete because files had been destroyed, and that he could not speak for other intelligence agencies, just the KGB. He did not offer to check again, and the old Soviet warhorse was quoted as saying Hiss’s attorney had pressured him into giving his client the clearance."

AIM Report: Media Won?t Give Up on Red Spy Alger Hiss ? July B

So, obviously the issue is still not settled.

As far as JoeB is concerned Hiss is a hero

 

[Dot Com]

ENOUGH w/ the gipper fluffing!!! So he gave a mediocre speech & ran the debt up & the other empire got bankrupted first? BFD Their probs started before Ronnie got into office. He was a "Johnny come lately" to the game

 

[thanatos144]

ENOUGH w/ the gipper fluffing!!! So he gave a mediocre speech & ran the debt up & the other empire got bankrupted first? BFD Their probs started before Ronnie got into office. He was a "Johnny come lately" to the game

Awww is the socialist feeling bad because all his heroes are evil murderers that can't run a country?

 

[JoeB131]

What we don't have is any evidence ever that Alger Hiss was a spy. He was never convicted of spying. And most of the so-called evidence turned out to be bogus.

Alger Hiss lost a civil suit for defamation over Chamber's claim he was a spy, AND lost 2 perjury trials over the question as to whether he was a spy. The only reason he wasn't convicted of spying is that the statute of limitations had expired for bringing that charge.

And, as for your claim that the Soviets said Hiss wasn't one of theirs, Volkogonov left "wiggle room". "Later, the general admitted that the search had not been thorough, that it could not be complete because files had been destroyed, and that he could not speak for other intelligence agencies, just the KGB. He did not offer to check again, and the old Soviet warhorse was quoted as saying Hiss’s attorney had pressured him into giving his client the clearance."

AIM Report: Media Won?t Give Up on Red Spy Alger Hiss ? July B

So, obviously the issue is still not settled.

It is to me. McCarthyism ruined hundreds of lives because we all shat ourselves for a decade.

 

[thanatos144]

What we don't have is any evidence ever that Alger Hiss was a spy. He was never convicted of spying. And most of the so-called evidence turned out to be bogus.

Alger Hiss lost a civil suit for defamation over Chamber's claim he was a spy, AND lost 2 perjury trials over the question as to whether he was a spy. The only reason he wasn't convicted of spying is that the statute of limitations had expired for bringing that charge.

And, as for your claim that the Soviets said Hiss wasn't one of theirs, Volkogonov left "wiggle room". "Later, the general admitted that the search had not been thorough, that it could not be complete because files had been destroyed, and that he could not speak for other intelligence agencies, just the KGB. He did not offer to check again, and the old Soviet warhorse was quoted as saying Hiss’s attorney had pressured him into giving his client the clearance."

AIM Report: Media Won?t Give Up on Red Spy Alger Hiss ? July B

So, obviously the issue is still not settled.

It is to me. McCarthyism ruined hundreds of lives because we all shat ourselves for a decade.

Who's lives were ruined?

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[JoeB131]

Can't help if you were asleep during history class and they explained to you why McCarthyism was a bad thing.

 

[thanatos144]

Can't help if you were asleep during history class and they explained to you why McCarthyism was a bad thing.

Is this the same history that already proved you don't know s*** about history? Because MacArthur didn't ruin anybody's life but he was proven completly correct

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[JoeB131]

Can't help if you were asleep during history class and they explained to you why McCarthyism was a bad thing.

Is this the same history that already proved you don't know s*** about history? Because my cross you didn't ruin anybody's life but he was proven completly correct

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Are you some kind of retard? If you can't make a coherent argument with your ObamaPhone, please don't waste my time.

 

[thanatos144]

Can't help if you were asleep during history class and they explained to you why McCarthyism was a bad thing.

Is this the same history that already proved you don't know s*** about history? Because my cross you didn't ruin anybody's life but he was proven completly correct

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Are you some kind of retard? If you can't make a coherent argument with your ObamaPhone, please don't waste my time.

Sorry unlike you I pay for the things I use

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[Toro]

That's like saying George Washington claimed to be President.

At the time, the FBI had Intel on the spies that they gave to McCarthy, some of the spies admitted they were spying for the USSR, and then Moscow released the backup on their spy program.

Again, facts and your worldview are parallel lines that never cross

names?

Check my "blacklisted" thread

Is that a thread about the 6 million Mormons with whom Joe will not do business because they're Mormons?