Reality Sets In

So you are sticking to the CNN/PMSNBC narrative? Rational Americans can see this for what it has been … a political witch-hunt,
Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, so they can make up their own minds on what happened and get answers and facts on what actually happened after waiting 22 months of the investigation.
. Rational Americans know that this right wing 'war cry' of witch hunt, is FAKE NEWS created by the liar and chief for his pawns to shout and scream.

Mueller and the Muel Team had significant prosecutorial experience and virtually unlimited resources and authority to follow the EVIDENCE … not speculation, rumors, innuendo, or media fabrications. By their silence amid all the leftarded fury the last 2 years they managed to keep their cool and be professional.
Yes, they did manage to keep their cool, and did a fine job at it, now let us see the evidence, and know the facts of what they found.

They certainly followed every credible lead and concluded there was NO COLLUSION. Why do you think our Democrat Socialist House of Reps are trying to duplicate Mueller's work and widening the witch-hunt to include everything Trump has done the last 10 years?
Barr never said they found no Collusion, collusion is not a crime, it was just a word that Trump started regurgitating over an over again.... no collusion no collusion no collusion, but if there was collusion, Collusion is not a crime.... don't you remember that?

What Barr said was that CONSPIRACY could not be established, (beyond a reasonable doubt)

that does not mean there was absolutely no collusion, we need to see the evidence and facts that the Mueller team found on that....

Why are you against transparency? What are you all afraid of us finding out? Why are you so obviously acting as if you have something to hide?

Except for the IG report into who foisted this witch-hunt on America, the science is settled …

I welcome the investigation by the IG on how the investigation in to the Trump campaign and their Russian connections and interactions while the Russians were illegally trying to interfere in our election, originated.

100 to 1, it was not this made up and loony tune accusation of the Trump cultists that it was simply a witch hunt, made up out of thin air....

Be careful of what you wish for....
/----/ "Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, "
Link please.
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Fox News Poll: Voters want Mueller report released, but will it change views?

Fox News Poll 3/24/2019
/----/ "Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, "
So you now admit Fox viewers are rational. Thanks. Now does the survey say the Americans want to "see it in full?" BTW so does Trump.
 
So you are sticking to the CNN/PMSNBC narrative? Rational Americans can see this for what it has been … a political witch-hunt,
Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, so they can make up their own minds on what happened and get answers and facts on what actually happened after waiting 22 months of the investigation.
. Rational Americans know that this right wing 'war cry' of witch hunt, is FAKE NEWS created by the liar and chief for his pawns to shout and scream.

Mueller and the Muel Team had significant prosecutorial experience and virtually unlimited resources and authority to follow the EVIDENCE … not speculation, rumors, innuendo, or media fabrications. By their silence amid all the leftarded fury the last 2 years they managed to keep their cool and be professional.
Yes, they did manage to keep their cool, and did a fine job at it, now let us see the evidence, and know the facts of what they found.

They certainly followed every credible lead and concluded there was NO COLLUSION. Why do you think our Democrat Socialist House of Reps are trying to duplicate Mueller's work and widening the witch-hunt to include everything Trump has done the last 10 years?
Barr never said they found no Collusion, collusion is not a crime, it was just a word that Trump started regurgitating over an over again.... no collusion no collusion no collusion, but if there was collusion, Collusion is not a crime.... don't you remember that?

What Barr said was that CONSPIRACY could not be established, (beyond a reasonable doubt)

that does not mean there was absolutely no collusion, we need to see the evidence and facts that the Mueller team found on that....

Why are you against transparency? What are you all afraid of us finding out? Why are you so obviously acting as if you have something to hide?

Except for the IG report into who foisted this witch-hunt on America, the science is settled …

I welcome the investigation by the IG on how the investigation in to the Trump campaign and their Russian connections and interactions while the Russians were illegally trying to interfere in our election, originated.

100 to 1, it was not this made up and loony tune accusation of the Trump cultists that it was simply a witch hunt, made up out of thin air....

Be careful of what you wish for....
/----/ "Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, "
Link please.
Poll-3-4.jpg


Fox News Poll: Voters want Mueller report released, but will it change views?

Fox News Poll 3/24/2019
/----/ "Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, "
So you now admit Fox viewers are rational. Thanks. Now does the survey say the Americans want to "see it in full?" BTW so does Trump.
I used FOX, especially for you! :D
Yes, 3/4's or more of all Americans want to see it!


In a CNN poll conducted by SSRS and released last week, 87% of Americans said that regardless of what the investigation found, Mueller's team should produce a full, public report on their findings. That agreement goes across partisan lines: 95% of Democrats, 88% of independents and 80% of Republicans want a public report.


Americans want Mueller's report released and approve of his work. But their minds are made up about Trump. - CNNPolitics
 
lawlessness and obfuscation by the president and his crew is not something to be proud of.... :rolleyes:
You guys stay silent or even join in with him, when he blatantly lies or is crooked or is unpatriotic like in Helsinki... or is lawless!!
Trump did not do anything unpatriotic at Helsinki. The pursuit of peace is very patriotic as long as we dont give up anything material without a suitable response from the other side.
Woo. Nothing better differentiates TDS dementia from rational thought better than Care4's unhinged hysteria vs your response. I get the distinct impression that he is serious … that none of the revelations of the last 2 weeks have made a dent in his certainty that Trump is guilty despite the lack of evidence of criminal wrongdoing. The poor guy sound like he's pulling his hair out.

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Can you answer any of these questions that Mueller was suppose to have answers to in his report?


Why did Manafort give secret and confidential Trump polling data to Kilimnik? Did Kilimnik pass it on to the GRU so they could advertise and troll in the areas the polling data showed where the Trump campaign needed it most?

What actually occurred between Roger Stone and wikileaks, was he made aware of the stolen email dumps to come, did he direct them on a timely basis for the benefit of Trump? Did he communicate what was going to be in the stolen email dumps to the Trump campaign? Why did Trump mention wikileaks 160 times in his rallies, in the month of October alone, when he was briefed by our intelligence that Russia had stolen them and was trying to interfere with our election?

What did Cambridge Analytica actually do to help the Trump campaign, besides illegally obtaining Facebook confidential data on unsuspecting users? Why did they shut down? Who paid them?

Who were the Russians that illegally donated funds to the NRA for their advertising that supported the Trump campaign besides Alexander Torshin? Why did Don Junior meet with Torshin and have dinner with him at an NRA event? What was Maria Butina's roll and her boyfriend's in electing Trump, if any?

Who were the Russians who illegally donated to the Trump Inaugural fund? What did they get in return from the Trump campaign for doing such? Was there a pay for play situation set up with the Trump Inaugural Fund?

What exactly did trump Campaign Sam Clovis illegally do? Why and for what, is he still cooperating with the Special Counsel?

Why is the Special Counsel's Grand Jury still alive and well? What are they needed for if the Special Counsel investigation is over?

Why did Kushner want to set up a back channel of communications with the Russians? And why in the heck would he try to do such in the Russian embassy?

What really happened at the Trump tower Meeting with Kushner, Manafort, Junior and the 6 govt Russian operatives....

Why did Don Junior accept a meeting with these Russian operatives when they had already been briefed that Russia was trying to illegally interfere in our election?

Why did President Trump make up a LIE about the Trump tower meeting for Don Junior?

Why did no one from the Trump campaign notify the FBI when the Russians were going overboard in their contacts with them?

Why did everyone including Trump LIE about all of their Russian contacts during the campaign?

Why did candidate Trump LIE about his Trump tower Moscow deal he was working on until the day he got elected?

Why did President Trump send Erik Prince to meet with the Russian operative in the Seychelles?

What was the second Trump tower meeting about, that Erik Prince just slipped up and told us took place?




All of these questions are just a few of the questions I, and anyone following the investigation, want to know the answers to....
so mueller missed all this after 2 years?
Heck no, they did not miss it! That's why I would like for us to see the full report and the facts they gathered on it!
then those questions have likely been answered and explained and i'll gamble a double stacker biscuit that if/when it doesn't say what you like, you'll find some other reason to call people liars.

usually with a good old CNN link.
 
Full disclosure to congress of Mueller's report would give everyone those answers sayit. Covering up and hiding the actual report that the Mueller team put together from all of their fact finding ventures, would give everyone their answers.

The appearance of HIDING things by not doing so, not being transparent, is the problem... not the Democrats wanting to see it...
Tell it to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals (McKeever v Sessions). Their ruling says Barr shall not release an unredacted version of the Mueller report. See you in court.
No, it doesn't really say that, it says grand jury testimony, which is only 1 of the 4 categories that Barr is hiding from us,

and we have two other decisions in the court pertaining to our investigations of govt officials, where the court ruled in these cases of public interest of our government, the grand jury testimony can be released.

There is no consolation for you all trying to hide things from the public, in that case ruling last Friday.... it is totally unrelated to an investigation on our government or election process.
 
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We both know that nothing provided to congress or for public consumption will satisfy people like you,
Full disclosure to congress of Mueller's report would give everyone those answers sayit. Covering up and hiding the actual report that the Mueller team put together from all of their fact finding ventures, would give everyone their answers.

The appearance of HIDING things by not doing so, not being transparent, is the problem... not the Democrats wanting to see it...
wow - you mean like deleting 33k mails is a cause of doubt? that kind of activity?
They were private emails, the government rules STATE that employees should NOT send private emails to the national archives to be saved.... what the Clinton team did was FOLLOWING the rules set, by our government.
 
We both know that nothing provided to congress or for public consumption will satisfy people like you,
Full disclosure to congress of Mueller's report would give everyone those answers sayit. Covering up and hiding the actual report that the Mueller team put together from all of their fact finding ventures, would give everyone their answers.

The appearance of HIDING things by not doing so, not being transparent, is the problem... not the Democrats wanting to see it...
wow - you mean like deleting 33k mails is a cause of doubt? that kind of activity?
They were private emails, the government rules STATE that employees should NOT send private emails to the national archives to be saved.... what the Clinton team did was FOLLOWING the rules set, by our government.
they were deleted. how do you know what they were?

you won't let trump have a meeting w/o going into a 2 year tizzy of how guilty he must be because you don't know what happened in that meeting.

shame you're not just as curious as a government official actually deleting things so you'd not know what they were about and have to take her word. well the word she gives between destroying phones and hard drives.

when your rage is equal opportunity, i'll view you as more than a leftist cheerleader.
 
they were deleted. how do you know what they were?
Well, if they were govt emails, they would be involved with gvt people and there would be a copy under these other gvt people or entities,
And second, the Govt Rules state that if the employee is in question of whether their email would be considered gvt related or private, they should ask their State Dept supervisor....

You can't get any higher than the Secretary of State herself, to make the decision.

Sounds to me like you have no evidence that they were govt emails or anything nefarious, you are just FISHING and hoping to find something in her personal emails, without any cause, let alone, probable cause.....
 
they were deleted. how do you know what they were?
Well, if they were govt emails, they would be involved with gvt people and there would be a copy under these other gvt people or entities,
And second, the Govt Rules state that if the employee is in question of whether their email would be considered gvt related or private, they should ask their State Dept supervisor....

You can't get any higher than the Secretary of State herself, to make the decision.

Sounds to me like you have no evidence that they were govt emails or anything nefarious, you are just FISHING and hoping to find something in her personal emails, without any cause, let alone, probable cause.....
so - you do not know what was in them. you "assume" because it fits your viewpoint so you give allowances and leeway.

however - you hate trump so he does not get the same benefit of doubt. how come you get to go fishing and no one else can back at you or your "side"?

in the real world we call this hypocrisy.

as for "fishing" - again the left loves to accuse the right of what they consistently do.

russia - you got nothing. tons of it. you have your list of questions you want to now hope mueller didn't address so you can still cry FOUL but you're fishing for anything at this point.

the "investigation" was a fishing expedition and while it got a few people, nothing related to russia. woman, this is the very definition of FISHING.

taxes, russia, grabbing women, hell - fling it on a wall and hope THIS bitch session of hate gets you what you demand.

now THAT is fishing but you go ahead and tell me that's what i'm doing. again the real world call that liberal tactics 101.
 
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they were deleted. how do you know what they were?
Well, if they were govt emails, they would be involved with gvt people and there would be a copy under these other gvt people or entities,
And second, the Govt Rules state that if the employee is in question of whether their email would be considered gvt related or private, they should ask their State Dept supervisor....

You can't get any higher than the Secretary of State herself, to make the decision.

Sounds to me like you have no evidence that they were govt emails or anything nefarious, you are just FISHING and hoping to find something in her personal emails, without any cause, let alone, probable cause.....
/----/ And don't forget if you pizz off the Secretary of State, then she will launch a phony investigation on you that will last a year and bankrupt you.
 
There is no consolation for you all trying to hide things from the public, in that case ruling last Friday.... it is totally unrelated to an investigation on our government or election process.
Sure thing....:icon_rolleyes:
Related or not the outcome is the same. Barr is constrained by the ruling of the DC Circuit Court. Document: D.C. Circuit Rules in McKeever v. Barr

Leftists want Barr to ignore the law. Go fish, morons.
 
There is no consolation for you all trying to hide things from the public, in that case ruling last Friday.... it is totally unrelated to an investigation on our government or election process.
Sure thing....:icon_rolleyes:
Related or not the outcome is the same. Barr is constrained by the ruling of the DC Circuit Court. Document: D.C. Circuit Rules in McKeever v. Barr

Leftists want Barr to ignore the law. Go fish, morons.
no they don't..... well, some may want to see the grand jury testimony like ME! But I want him to follow the law exceptions, written in to the Law, and go with congress to the Court, and ask for the permission to release to the public.

The Judiciary committee, already has the right to get the full report, no redactions, in a closed setting.
 
Related or not the outcome is the same. Barr is constrained by the ruling of the DC Circuit Court. Document: D.C. Circuit Rules in McKeever v. Barr
Leftists want Barr to ignore the law. Go fish, morons.
no they don't..... well, some may want to see the grand jury testimony like ME! But I want him to follow the law exceptions, written in to the Law, and go with congress to the Court, and ask for the permission to release to the public. The Judiciary committee, already has the right to get the full report, no redactions, in a closed setting.
Congressional Dems can't be trusted and nothing is stopping congress from going to court except perhaps the knowledge they would lose both judicially and in the court of public opinion. According to USAG Barr none of the exceptions to 6E apply but if clinging to your mistaken beliefs is your only connection to "reality," do continue to cling.
 
Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, so they can make up their own minds on what happened and get answers and facts on what actually happened after waiting 22 months of the investigation.
. Rational Americans know that this right wing 'war cry' of witch hunt, is FAKE NEWS created by the liar and chief for his pawns to shout and scream.

I am assuming you're including yourself into "rational Americans" group.

There is nothing rational in demanding to see classified material. It's even less rational to demand from someone, in this case top country's lawyer, to break the law, just to satisfy your butthurt feelings.

The only ones crying since Trump was elected are leftist snowflakes. If you didn't get used to it by now, you're risking serious mental health problems.

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So you are sticking to the CNN/PMSNBC narrative? Rational Americans can see this for what it has been … a political witch-hunt,
Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, so they can make up their own minds on what happened and get answers and facts on what actually happened after waiting 22 months of the investigation.
. Rational Americans know that this right wing 'war cry' of witch hunt, is FAKE NEWS created by the liar and chief for his pawns to shout and scream.

Mueller and the Muel Team had significant prosecutorial experience and virtually unlimited resources and authority to follow the EVIDENCE … not speculation, rumors, innuendo, or media fabrications. By their silence amid all the leftarded fury the last 2 years they managed to keep their cool and be professional.
Yes, they did manage to keep their cool, and did a fine job at it, now let us see the evidence, and know the facts of what they found.

They certainly followed every credible lead and concluded there was NO COLLUSION. Why do you think our Democrat Socialist House of Reps are trying to duplicate Mueller's work and widening the witch-hunt to include everything Trump has done the last 10 years?
Barr never said they found no Collusion, collusion is not a crime, it was just a word that Trump started regurgitating over an over again.... no collusion no collusion no collusion, but if there was collusion, Collusion is not a crime.... don't you remember that?

What Barr said was that CONSPIRACY could not be established, (beyond a reasonable doubt)

that does not mean there was absolutely no collusion, we need to see the evidence and facts that the Mueller team found on that....

Why are you against transparency? What are you all afraid of us finding out? Why are you so obviously acting as if you have something to hide?

Except for the IG report into who foisted this witch-hunt on America, the science is settled …

I welcome the investigation by the IG on how the investigation in to the Trump campaign and their Russian connections and interactions while the Russians were illegally trying to interfere in our election, originated.

100 to 1, it was not this made up and loony tune accusation of the Trump cultists that it was simply a witch hunt, made up out of thin air....

Be careful of what you wish for....
/----/ "Rational Americans want to see the report, in full, "
Link please.

Joke of a day, leftists calling themselves "rational". :D
 
lawlessness and obfuscation by the president and his crew is not something to be proud of.... :rolleyes:

The law of the land, does not involve demanding his tax returns. If you have an actual crime to charge him with, by all means do so. Otherwise, you really are just screaming on the ground.
 
I used FOX, especially for you! :D
Yes, 3/4's or more of all Americans want to see it!


In a CNN poll conducted by SSRS and released last week, 87% of Americans said that regardless of what the investigation found, Mueller's team should produce a full, public report on their findings. That agreement goes across partisan lines: 95% of Democrats, 88% of independents and 80% of Republicans want a public report.


Americans want Mueller's report released and approve of his work. But their minds are made up about Trump. - CNNPolitics

If law says that classified material cannot be released to public, it doesn't matter if 100% polled wants to see it.

Is that hard to understand?
 
We both know that nothing provided to congress or for public consumption will satisfy people like you,
Full disclosure to congress of Mueller's report would give everyone those answers sayit. Covering up and hiding the actual report that the Mueller team put together from all of their fact finding ventures, would give everyone their answers.

The appearance of HIDING things by not doing so, not being transparent, is the problem... not the Democrats wanting to see it...
wow - you mean like deleting 33k mails is a cause of doubt? that kind of activity?
They were private emails, the government rules STATE that employees should NOT send private emails to the national archives to be saved.... what the Clinton team did was FOLLOWING the rules set, by our government.

Since when "private" emails have "C" (classified) markings on them?
 

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