Regret Your Vote Yet?

[BluesLegend]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

 

[Dana7360]

It's easy to have a good economy when you stick your successors with the bill.

And Obama the Great fosters a lackluster economy while sticking his successors and their great grandchildren with the bill. The Incompetent One has created more debt than all before him....definitely outpacing Reagan. Thanks, Obie!

Really, retard?

List the things Obama has spent money on.

And you had better just stick to the first two years, since Republicans haven't spent any money since taking charge of the purse strings, so you have January 2009-January 2011 to make your case, when Democrats controlled the money.

I'll give you the first one: the Stimulus Act. That was $800 billion.

You tell me where the rest of the debt came from.

Start listing.

Actually Obama has spent less than most presidents before him. He's on schedule to have the lowest spending in decades:



The real story of spending under President Obama — Barack Obama

Obama's spending record: Who's telling the truth? - Los Angeles Times

Obama spending binge never happened - MarketWatch

 

[Synthaholic]

When was the last time any politician you voted for lived up to your expectations?

Rudy Giuliani

The guy who, after the first World Trade Center bombing, decided to move the NYPD Command & Control . . . TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER?????

Memo Details Objections to Command Center Site

Published: January 26, 2008

The New York Police Department produced a detailed analysis in 1998 opposing plans by the city to locate its emergency command center at the World Trade Center, but the Giuliani administration overrode those objections. The command center later collapsed from damage in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.

“Seven World Trade Center is a poor choice for the site of a crucial command center for the top leadership of the City of New York,” a panel of police experts, which was aided by the Secret Service, concluded in a confidential Police Department memorandum.

The memorandum, which has not been previously disclosed, cited a number of “significant points of vulnerability.” Those included: the building’s public access, the center’s location on the 23rd floor, a 1,200-gallon diesel fuel supply for its generator, a large garage and delivery bays, the building’s history as a terrorist target, and its placement above and adjacent to a Consolidated Edison substation that provided much of the power for Lower Manhattan.​

Hindsight.

It's from 1998!!! Before September 11, 2001.

That's called Foresight.

Holy shit, you're dumb.

Not hindsight! Foresight.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was talking about this ONE specific incident and he failed because it doesn't look very damned Presidential to go play a round of golf , high fiving our buddies with a big shit eating grin on your face 30 minutes after telling US citizens that you're sorry their son had his fucking head chopped off by a bunch of thugs.

Right, let's find one president who looked presidential while having a poo on the toilet then shall we?

So you have one incident where you don't think he was so good, so what? What's the point? This doesn't make him presidential? It certainly makes him human, and as far as I'm aware at least 60% of presidents have been human beings.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I was talking about this ONE specific incident and he failed because it doesn't look very damned Presidential to go play a round of golf , high fiving our buddies with a big shit eating grin on your face 30 minutes after telling US citizens that you're sorry their son had his fucking head chopped off by a bunch of thugs.

Right, let's find one president who looked presidential while having a poo on the toilet then shall we?

So you have one incident where you don't think he was so good, so what? What's the point? This doesn't make him presidential? It certainly makes him human, and as far as I'm aware at least 60% of presidents have been human beings.

How insulting comparing this incident to a guy taking a shit. Grow up.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's from 1998!!! Before September 11, 2001.

That's called Foresight.

Holy shit, you're dumb.

Not hindsight! Foresight.

Maybe, just maybe, he was making a comment about you and hindsight!!!

 

[frigidweirdo]

How insulting comparing this incident to a guy taking a shit. Grow up.

You want to be insulted, that's your problem.

The reason I made this reference is for the same reason you found it insulting. It's taking a dump. Every human does it, every president does it. You wouldn't look very presidential doing it either, would you?

Make a comment about how a guy doesn't look very presidential, it happens, it is always going to happen unless the president is an absolute obsessive compulsive person.

So I wasn't actually comparing the incidents, I was using taking a dump as a way of showing you the reality of the situation.

 

[Ernie S.]

Unlike you, I love America.....that's why I will never be a Liberal.

-- a nation that is completely a Liberal creation. You have a paradox.
Not that that's a surprise.

Regret your thread yet?

What you refer to as "Liberals".....modern Liberals....were created when John Dewey talked the socialists into changing their name.

Pick up a book for once.

I think you spelled Joe McCarthy's name wrong. Here, speaking of "books" you'll like this link. It's thirty pages long. Just imagine it's one of your posts and admire it in the mirror.

1. The link, like Liberalism, doesn't work.

2. Wise of you not to doubt that your brand of Liberal is really John Dewey's socialist.

3. Senator Joseph McCarthy....an American patriot and hero.

Another opportunity for you to 'pick up a book.'

Bullshit - there's nothing wrong with the link except the user going

Here, want me to read it aloud to you, helpless one?

One of the major problems in American political consciousness today comes from a misrepresentation of the political spectrum. This is partly the result of a deliberate effort to put all of America's enemies (fascists and communists) into the same basket after World War II, and a deliberate effort by the American "Right" to classify everything that they oppose as "Leftist". After World War II the Republican Party was struggling for survival and was in the process of reinventing itself. Part of the political strategy of some Republicans was to portray the Democratic Party of Truman and Franklin D. Roosevelt as "Red," thereby associating "Liberalism" with "Socialism". It was a common tactic during the 1950s to accuse Democrats of being "Communists" or "Communist sympathizers", a tactic that worked well during the McCarthy era and has had a lasting impact on how Americans view politics.
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Is that just too scary to read because it requires rethinking where you've stranded yourself?

Please.

McCarthy was an asshole opportunist drunk womanizing demagogue poser liar, who fits like a glove here. And we've been over this before. The personification in fact of style over substance. And you're still buying. Gullible's Travels.

The link doesn't work for me either.

The reason why so many in the Roosevelt and Truman admins were labeled "Communists" or "Communist sympathizers" was because so many were.
.

 

[Pogo]

Unlike you, I love America.....that's why I will never be a Liberal.

-- a nation that is completely a Liberal creation. You have a paradox.
Not that that's a surprise.

Regret your thread yet?

What you refer to as "Liberals".....modern Liberals....were created when John Dewey talked the socialists into changing their name.

Pick up a book for once.

I think you spelled Joe McCarthy's name wrong. Here, speaking of "books" you'll like this link. It's thirty pages long. Just imagine it's one of your posts and admire it in the mirror.

1. The link, like Liberalism, doesn't work.

2. Wise of you not to doubt that your brand of Liberal is really John Dewey's socialist.

3. Senator Joseph McCarthy....an American patriot and hero.

Another opportunity for you to 'pick up a book.'

Bullshit - there's nothing wrong with the link except the user going

Here, want me to read it aloud to you, helpless one?

One of the major problems in American political consciousness today comes from a misrepresentation of the political spectrum. This is partly the result of a deliberate effort to put all of America's enemies (fascists and communists) into the same basket after World War II, and a deliberate effort by the American "Right" to classify everything that they oppose as "Leftist". After World War II the Republican Party was struggling for survival and was in the process of reinventing itself. Part of the political strategy of some Republicans was to portray the Democratic Party of Truman and Franklin D. Roosevelt as "Red," thereby associating "Liberalism" with "Socialism". It was a common tactic during the 1950s to accuse Democrats of being "Communists" or "Communist sympathizers", a tactic that worked well during the McCarthy era and has had a lasting impact on how Americans view politics.
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Is that just too scary to read because it requires rethinking where you've stranded yourself?

Please.

McCarthy was an asshole opportunist drunk womanizing demagogue poser liar, who fits like a glove here. And we've been over this before. The personification in fact of style over substance. And you're still buying. Gullible's Travels.

The link doesn't work for me either.

The reason why so many in the Roosevelt and Truman admins were labeled "Communists" or "Communist sympathizers" was because so many were.
.

Really?
I don't know why that would be -- Ernie you're a far more credible source, I don't trust Supergirl... try this:
< http - colon slash slash rationalrevolutionDOTnetSLASHarticles/redefining_the_political_spectruDOThtm

Let me know what happens. I've never had an issue with this link. Site error?

Here, try this --- proxy link

 

[OnePercenter]

I don't vote Republican, so NO.

 

[Ernie S.]

That works. I began to read, but it actually says little while using a lot of words.
The first scale/graph to determine socially right economic right etc., is bullshit. I am socially right but do believe in separation of church and state as long as that is a 2 way street. I won't try to force my religion on you if you don't try to force your lack of one on me.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.


It's also idiocy to assume 'things' would be 'any better' with Romney.


And with 4 Supreme Court justices in their late 70s or early 80s, no one will be 'regretting' his vote should a new appointment to the Court become necessary.

 

[OnePercenter]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

Do you want to try to rub my nose in it?

The GOP put dumb shit with McCain, whom I would have voted.

Romney? Not even if he was the only one running.

 

[Pogo]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

I gotta go with Arguentum ad Populum on this one.

 

[BluesLegend]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.


It's also idiocy to assume 'things' would be 'any better' with Romney.


And with 4 Supreme Court justices in their late 70s or early 80s, no one will be 'regretting' his vote should a new appointment to the Court become necessary.

LOL your logic is at best faulty.

 

[BluesLegend]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

Do you want to try to rub my nose in it?

The GOP put dumb shit with McCain, whom I would have voted.

Romney? Not even if he was the only one running.

Ahahaha look who's talking you people elected Biden oh the irony.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In fact....Liberals will vote for a rapist.......twice.

Who is a rapist?

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scannedCLINTON S ROGUES GALLERY

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Lucifer" -- the ultimate strawman. Too funny.

An attempt at face saving????

You said "...The point sailing blissfully over your pointy little head is that dredging up some obscure writer from decades ago and unilaterally declaring it to be the messiah of your opponent is a juvenile bullshit strawman and an utter failure of logic....

Yet I showed that, as usual, I am absolutely correct.

And it reveals that you've been skewered!

Uh nnnnnoooo... it reveals that you're addicted to strawmen. You've got one strawman using his book to invoke another. Hot strawman-on-strawman action.

I'll pass.

Strawman?
Nah.
Fish.
I hooked you, and reeled you in.
I showed how intimately wedded Alinsky, Obama and Hillary are.
You: "no,no, no......"

You flatter yourself. That's understandable - who else would? But you're moving your own goalposts Toots, because here is where you started down this Malarkey Mile

And I quote:

No but I sure regret the 14 seconds spent reading that last post...

Really?

Why?

You did not find that an interesting story? One where hundreds of Americans got together to find a missing teenager?

Really? You considered hearing (reading) that story as a waste of time?

Do you claim to be non partisan? I bet you do. And you just proved you aren't.

Reeeeeallly -- time management is "partisan" now?

Want to know how many Tim Horton'ses are in Bangor?
No, I don't think a bullshit feelgood missing persons PR story has jack shit to do with politics. Call me crazy. And the fact that some media outhouse took the time to "fact check" such a PR tale speaks volumes about our electoral values. Or lack thereof.

I has more to do with the character of the man just as fund raising and golf at inappropriate times do.

OH! I forget. Democrats don't claim to be men of character. Never mind.

"Character" is irrelevant to politics.

"Character" is irrelevant to Liberals.

And, they use the aim of propriety of the Right against same....

"For example, since the Haves publicly pose as the custodians of responsibility, morality, law, and justice (which are frequently strangers to each others), they can be constantly pushed to live up to their own book of morality and regulations. No organizations, including organized religion, can live up to the letter of its own book. You can club them to death with their "book" of rules and regulations. This is what that great revolutionary, Paul of Tarsus, knew when he wrote to the Corinthians: "Who also hath made us able ministers of the New Testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit, for the letter killeth." -- Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals, P.152

In fact....Liberals will vote for a rapist.......twice.

Did you catch it? I tried to make it stand out. Never mind that it started with "Democrats" which you shifted to "Liberals" -- now you're trying to weasel out of it by shifting further to O'bama and Hillary .

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You know you can't put this kind of bullshit past me. You learned that when I first got here.
Perhaps "learned" is a hasty term...

Wipe the egg off your face.

 

[candycorn]

Every Obama voter I know regrets their vote, it doesn't help I rub their noses in it every chance I get.

I do not regret my vote in the least and I proudly voted for Obama in both General Elections.

 

[PoliticalChic]

To get a real grasp into the mindset of the far left liberal, ( some say anarchist ) watch Megyn Kelly in tonight's interview with Ward Churchill. Part two will air tomorrow night, Tuesday, same time.....9 pm Eastern. This interview is supposed to be more riveting than the one with Bill Ayers.

I hope she has the studio disinfected after he slithers out.

I'm setting my DVR for the next two nights. I want to study the mind of an anarchist.

Great!
Then we can note the similarities to the Lefties on the board who still support the failure in the White House!

The failure who presided over an 11,000 point increase in the DOW?

Or the failure who killed America's #1 enemy?

Or was it the failure who killed those pirates who hijacked Captain Phillip's boat?

Or was it the failure who:

• Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act.
• Extended Benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees
• Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
• Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
• Appointed first Latina to the US Supreme Court
• Signed New START Treaty - nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia
• First president to endorse same-sex marriage equality
• Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
• Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
• Reversed the policy of barring media coverage during the return of fallen soldiers to Dover Air Force Base
• Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
• Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured
• Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
• Developed stimulus package, which includes approx. $18 billion for nondefense scientific research and development
• Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system
• Ended Bush administration's CIA program of 'enhanced interrogation methods' by requiring that the Army field manual be used as the guide for terrorism interrogations
  
• Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, giving the FDA the authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing, and sale of tobacco for the first time

This failure:

1.More than 6.7 million more Americans have been plunged into poverty since Obama became President.


2.Real household income is down 5%


3. Consumer prices are up 10.2%


4. Total federal debt is up 58%


5. Gasoline prices are up 82%


6. Food stamp recipients up 49%


7. Debt held by the public is up 89%


However, the Obama administrationrecently projected an annual deficit of $750 billion in the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, and $626 billion the year after. At that rate, the debt owed to the public will more than double during the Obama presidency.

As of 2012, according to the most recent figures reported by the Census Bureau, median (midpoint) income for all U.S. households was $51,017, which was 4.9 percent lower (in inflation-adjusted dollars) than it was in 2008, the year before Obama took office.

The same story applies to family income, which includes many families with two earners. (The “household” figure includes single persons living alone, as well as families.) Median family income in 2012 was $62,241, or 5.1 percent below the inflation-adjusted 2008 level.

The number of persons living in poverty also worsened again in 2012, according to the most recent Census figures.


8. As of last year, 46,496,000 persons lived in households with income below the official poverty line, an increase of nearly 6.7 million since 2008 and 249,000 since 2011. The total poverty rate remained unchanged in 2012 at 15 percent of the total U.S. population. So for the second straight year, the poverty rate was 1.8 points higher than it was in 2008.

Obama 8217 s Numbers October Update


9...in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery.Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


10. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

Latest Posts NewsBusters


11. . ".... the... [dollar] has today a value of barely a 1,250th of an ounce of gold, a staggering plunge from an 853rd of an ounce on the day Mr. Obama took office...." Fiat Wages - The New York Sun



12. "CBO says deficits slated to shrink in coming years, but will soar again if spending or tax changes are not made


Federal deficits have soared between 2009 and 2012, bring the total long-term debt to a level equal to 73 percent of the nation’s GDP. “Between 2009 and 2012, the federal government recorded the largest budget deficits relative to the size of the economy since 1946, causing federal debt to soar.”

CBO says deficits slated to shrink in coming years but will soar again if spending or tax changes are not made Dallas Morning News


13. "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted)median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession.

Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the Recovery as During the Recession The Weekly Standard

14. "(CNSNews.com) - The real median income of American women dropped a little more than four percent in the first three full years after the end of the last recession,..... Census Bureau income data, the median income of American women was $21,520 in constant 2012 dollars. That was down $914 dollars—or about 4.1 percent—from 2009." Median Income of Women Dropped 4 --In First 3 Years of Recovery CNS News


15. "US economy slowed to 0.1 percent growth rate in Q1

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy slowed drastically in the first three months of the year...to a barely discernible 0.1 percent annual rate in the January-March quarter, the Commerce Department said Wednesday. That was the weakest pace since the end of 2012 and was down from a 2.6 percent rate in the previous quarter.... the anemic growth last quarter is surely a topic for discussion at the Federal Reserve's latest policy meeting,..."

My Way News - US economy slowed to 0.1 percent growth rate in Q1


16. "More Than 92 Million Americans Remain Out Of Labor Force
The unemployment rate dropped to 6.3 percent in April from 6.7 percent in March, the lowest it has been since September 2008 when it was 6.1 percent. The sharp drop, though, occurred because the number of people working or seeking work fell. The Bureau of Labor Statistics does not count people not looking for a job as unemployed.

The bureau noted that the civilian labor force dropped by 806,000 last month, following an increase of 503,000 in March."

Report More Than 92 Million Americans Remain Out Of Labor Force CBS DC

The amount (not seasonally adjusted) of Americans not in thelabor force in April rose to 92,594,000, almost 1 million more than the previous month.


17. "The U.S. economy contractedat a much steeper pace than previously estimated in the firstquarter, but there are indications that growth has sincerebounded strongly.

The Commerce Department said on Wednesday gross domesticproduct fell at a 2.9 percent annual rate, the economy's worstperformance in five years, instead of the 1.0 percent pace ithad reported last month." Final US first quarter GDP contracts

18. (CNSNews.com) - The number of Americans 16 and older who did not participate in the labor force climbed to a record high of 92,120,000 in June, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)..... the labor force participation rate for Americans was 62.8 percent, matching a 36-year low. Record Number of Americans Not in Labor Force in June CNS News

19. (CNSNews.com)– The unemployment rate for black Americans is more than double that of white Americans, according to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).... In the numbers released today, covering the month of June, the seasonally adjusted unemployment rate for black Americans age 16 and over was 10.7%, reported the BLS. The unemployment rate for white Americans in the same age group and time-frame was 5.3%, said the BLS. Black Unemployment 10.7 More Than Double White Unemployment 5.3 CNS News

20. (CNSNews.com) - 11.4 million Americans age 16 and over have left the workforce since President Obama took office in January 2009, according to data released today from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
In July 2014, there were 92,001,000 Americans, 16 and over, who were classified as “not in the labor force,” meaning they not only did not have a job, but they didn’t actively seek one in the last four weeks

11 472 000 Americans Have Left Workforce Since Obama Took Office CNS News

21. "The 35.4 Percent: 109,631,000 on Welfare
109,631,000 Americans lived in households that received benefits from one or more federally funded "means-tested programs" — also known as welfare — as of the fourth quarter of 2012,according to data released Tuesdayby the Census Bureau. When those receiving benefits from non-means-tested federal programs — such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment and veterans benefits — were added to those taking welfare benefits, it turned out that 153,323,000 people were getting federal benefits of some type at the end of 2012.

Subtract the 3,297,000 who were receiving veterans' benefits from the total, and that leaves 150,026,000 people receiving non-veterans' benefits."

The 35.4 Percent 109 631 000 on Welfare CNS News





Excellent link showing the economy US Household Income Department of Numbers