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They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".Do you ever look at what you type before you click "post reply"?South Carolina fired the first shots. and they did so to protect the institution of slavery:
"The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. "
Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
"The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."
- Alexander Stephens - Vice President of the Confederacy
Alexander Stephens Reinforces The Cornerstone
Irrelevant. Firing of foreign troops trespassing on your territory is not an act of war.
You turds will repeat this mantra endlessly: "they fired the first shots. They fired the first shots. They fired the first shots." You obviously don't give a damn about the facts or international law. You're spewing Lincoln propaganda, just as they did 150 years ago.
They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
Virginia wasn't the "wrong side" it was his home.Robert E. Lee was a great American. He deserves a holiday
CIVIL WAR OP-ED Remembering Robert E. Lee American Patriot and Southern Hero Huntington News
Sir Winston Churchill called General Robert E. Lee, “one of the noblest Americans who ever lived.”
Please let me call to your attention that Monday, January 19, 2015, is the 208th birthday of Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of many Southerners. Why is this man so honored in the South and respected in the North? Lee was even respected by the soldiers of Union blue who fought against him during the War Between the States.
What is your community doing to commemorate the birthday of this great American?
General Lee’s portrait adorns the State Capitol in Atlanta where the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans hosted their 1st Lee birthday in 1988. The SCV will host their annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday January 17, 2015 at Georgia’s Old Secession Capitol on Greene Street in Milledgeville. Read more at: 2015 Annual Robert E Lee Birthday Celebration
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
And In Lexington, Virginia events are scheduled for the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on January 16th and 17th. Read more at: Home - Lee-Jackson Day Lexington VA
Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C. , told the audience in Atlanta, Ga. during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, quote 'Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.' Unquote
A truly great American who just picked the wrong side.
one word: electionshow can you have the consent of the governed when the governed are forced to consent?
Ask the ones who fired on Ft Sumter.....particularly Mr.Edmund Ruffin.The southern states wanted war long before Lincoln ever stepped into office.
They wanted to leave the union. You seriously think they wanted war even if the union let them go? Why would they?
The best thing he did was shoot himself at the end of the war he helped start.
And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".Do you ever look at what you type before you click "post reply"?Irrelevant. Firing of foreign troops trespassing on your territory is not an act of war.
You turds will repeat this mantra endlessly: "they fired the first shots. They fired the first shots. They fired the first shots." You obviously don't give a damn about the facts or international law. You're spewing Lincoln propaganda, just as they did 150 years ago.
They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
why don't you leave America?one word: electionshow can you have the consent of the governed when the governed are forced to consent?
So you force them to stay in a union they don't want to be in, but call it consent when you outvote them? LOL, yeah, that's consent.
Not at all...glad to see he offed himself.Ask the ones who fired on Ft Sumter.....particularly Mr.Edmund Ruffin.The southern states wanted war long before Lincoln ever stepped into office.
They wanted to leave the union. You seriously think they wanted war even if the union let them go? Why would they?
The best thing he did was shoot himself at the end of the war he helped start.
Begging the question
You said: Songs were made about himRobert E. Lee was a man of uncommon character. His equal doesn't exist anywhere today. Songs were made about him, monuments sculpted, and Army bases named after him. A worthless flea like you couldn't possibly insult him.You said: Too bad we didn't have more Robert E. Lees around these days.Robert E. Lee was a great American. He deserves a holiday
CIVIL WAR OP-ED Remembering Robert E. Lee American Patriot and Southern Hero Huntington News
Sir Winston Churchill called General Robert E. Lee, “one of the noblest Americans who ever lived.”
Please let me call to your attention that Monday, January 19, 2015, is the 208th birthday of Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of many Southerners. Why is this man so honored in the South and respected in the North? Lee was even respected by the soldiers of Union blue who fought against him during the War Between the States.
What is your community doing to commemorate the birthday of this great American?
General Lee’s portrait adorns the State Capitol in Atlanta where the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans hosted their 1st Lee birthday in 1988. The SCV will host their annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday January 17, 2015 at Georgia’s Old Secession Capitol on Greene Street in Milledgeville. Read more at: 2015 Annual Robert E Lee Birthday Celebration
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
And In Lexington, Virginia events are scheduled for the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on January 16th and 17th. Read more at: Home - Lee-Jackson Day Lexington VA
Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C. , told the audience in Atlanta, Ga. during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, quote 'Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.' Unquote
Lee was a great man. A true Statesman and brilliant military tactician. Too bad we didn't have more Robert E. Lees around these days.
We do. They are called "David Dukes without the baggage".
When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".Do you ever look at what you type before you click "post reply"?
They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
You said: Songs were made about himRobert E. Lee was a man of uncommon character. His equal doesn't exist anywhere today. Songs were made about him, monuments sculpted, and Army bases named after him. A worthless flea like you couldn't possibly insult him.You said: Too bad we didn't have more Robert E. Lees around these days.Robert E. Lee was a great American. He deserves a holiday
CIVIL WAR OP-ED Remembering Robert E. Lee American Patriot and Southern Hero Huntington News
Sir Winston Churchill called General Robert E. Lee, “one of the noblest Americans who ever lived.”
Please let me call to your attention that Monday, January 19, 2015, is the 208th birthday of Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of many Southerners. Why is this man so honored in the South and respected in the North? Lee was even respected by the soldiers of Union blue who fought against him during the War Between the States.
What is your community doing to commemorate the birthday of this great American?
General Lee’s portrait adorns the State Capitol in Atlanta where the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans hosted their 1st Lee birthday in 1988. The SCV will host their annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday January 17, 2015 at Georgia’s Old Secession Capitol on Greene Street in Milledgeville. Read more at: 2015 Annual Robert E Lee Birthday Celebration
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
And In Lexington, Virginia events are scheduled for the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on January 16th and 17th. Read more at: Home - Lee-Jackson Day Lexington VA
Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C. , told the audience in Atlanta, Ga. during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, quote 'Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.' Unquote
Lee was a great man. A true Statesman and brilliant military tactician. Too bad we didn't have more Robert E. Lees around these days.
We do. They are called "David Dukes without the baggage".
I know.
It carries the cotton awaaaaayyyy!
Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.One wonders how the troops were decided to be" foreign".
They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
Virginia wasn't the "wrong side" it was his home.Robert E. Lee was a great American. He deserves a holiday
CIVIL WAR OP-ED Remembering Robert E. Lee American Patriot and Southern Hero Huntington News
Sir Winston Churchill called General Robert E. Lee, “one of the noblest Americans who ever lived.”
Please let me call to your attention that Monday, January 19, 2015, is the 208th birthday of Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of many Southerners. Why is this man so honored in the South and respected in the North? Lee was even respected by the soldiers of Union blue who fought against him during the War Between the States.
What is your community doing to commemorate the birthday of this great American?
General Lee’s portrait adorns the State Capitol in Atlanta where the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans hosted their 1st Lee birthday in 1988. The SCV will host their annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday January 17, 2015 at Georgia’s Old Secession Capitol on Greene Street in Milledgeville. Read more at: 2015 Annual Robert E Lee Birthday Celebration
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
And In Lexington, Virginia events are scheduled for the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on January 16th and 17th. Read more at: Home - Lee-Jackson Day Lexington VA
Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C. , told the audience in Atlanta, Ga. during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, quote 'Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.' Unquote
A truly great American who just picked the wrong side.
Fort Sumter was at the heart of the central controversy between the North and South. Tariffs were imposed and collected from merchant ships entering the harbor. It was also a key hub for the blockade set up by the North. It's strategic value made it a high priority for seizure.Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.They were union troops. SC was a sovereign country after it seceded.
Fort Sumter was at the heart of the central controversy between the North and South. Tariffs were imposed and collected from merchant ships entering the harbor. It was also a key hub for the blockade set up by the North. It's strategic value made it a high priority for seizure.Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.So you admit they fired first....ergo starting a war where no war existed beforehand. Sucks to be them....they started something they couldn't finish.
It seems all of this is news to you. Are you sure you want to keep revealing your ignorance of American history?
Yes there was.Fort Sumter was at the heart of the central controversy between the North and South. Tariffs were imposed and collected from merchant ships entering the harbor. It was also a key hub for the blockade set up by the North. It's strategic value made it a high priority for seizure.Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?They offered the garrison commander a chance to surrender peacefully.
It seems all of this is news to you. Are you sure you want to keep revealing your ignorance of American history?
There was no blockade of any southern ports at the time Fort Sumter was attacked.
Yes there was.Fort Sumter was at the heart of the central controversy between the North and South. Tariffs were imposed and collected from merchant ships entering the harbor. It was also a key hub for the blockade set up by the North. It's strategic value made it a high priority for seizure.Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.And any Army officer who surrenders federal forts.....you applaud, right?
It seems all of this is news to you. Are you sure you want to keep revealing your ignorance of American history?
There was no blockade of any southern ports at the time Fort Sumter was attacked.
Virginia wasn't the "wrong side" it was his home.Robert E. Lee was a great American. He deserves a holiday
CIVIL WAR OP-ED Remembering Robert E. Lee American Patriot and Southern Hero Huntington News
Sir Winston Churchill called General Robert E. Lee, “one of the noblest Americans who ever lived.”
Please let me call to your attention that Monday, January 19, 2015, is the 208th birthday of Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of many Southerners. Why is this man so honored in the South and respected in the North? Lee was even respected by the soldiers of Union blue who fought against him during the War Between the States.
What is your community doing to commemorate the birthday of this great American?
General Lee’s portrait adorns the State Capitol in Atlanta where the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans hosted their 1st Lee birthday in 1988. The SCV will host their annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday January 17, 2015 at Georgia’s Old Secession Capitol on Greene Street in Milledgeville. Read more at: 2015 Annual Robert E Lee Birthday Celebration
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
And In Lexington, Virginia events are scheduled for the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on January 16th and 17th. Read more at: Home - Lee-Jackson Day Lexington VA
Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C. , told the audience in Atlanta, Ga. during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, quote 'Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.' Unquote
A truly great American who just picked the wrong side.
Too bad for him that his home was on the wrong side.
Abraham Lincoln ordered the blockade on April 1, 1861, 2 weeks before the assault. So yes, I was correct.Yes there was.Fort Sumter was at the heart of the central controversy between the North and South. Tariffs were imposed and collected from merchant ships entering the harbor. It was also a key hub for the blockade set up by the North. It's strategic value made it a high priority for seizure.Which shows that it was of no threat to the new Confederacy. Thanks for showing that. So the South fired on a harmless federal installation....why? To start a war they couldn't win. Pretty stupid....but not surprising.When they're outgunned yes. The fort was still under construction and didn't possess the armaments to fend off a full scale seige. The cannon balls didn't have the needed point detonating fuses so they couldn't explode. What few shells they managed to fire were ineffective. Not taking the opportunity to surrender was a terrible mistake.
It seems all of this is news to you. Are you sure you want to keep revealing your ignorance of American history?
There was no blockade of any southern ports at the time Fort Sumter was attacked.
I'm sorry but you are simply incorrect about that. In fact weapons from northern factories continued to be sent south to fill contracts for state militias right up until the attack on Fort Sumter.
