Reminder to Democrats: You let Ted Kennedy get away with killing a woman

[Moonglow]

He didn't kill her. He just left under the car to drown while he staggered off in a drunken slumber.

Except nobody proved he was drunk and he could have simply been in shock after an accident.

A Kennedy not drunk and/or on drugs...

You enjoy being a simpleton…

Years ago I worked briefly as a property manager in Aspen, Colorado. One of the hard and fast rules of our agency was that you NEVER rented a vacation property to a member of the Kennedy family! Why? Because they had a long history of trashing places with wild parties and then not paying for the damage! Why? Because they were the Kennedy's and the rules that apply to others didn't apply to them! When Michael Kennedy was killed skiing on Aspen mountain he ran into a tree while tossing a football around coming down a crowded ski slope endangering dozens of other people. Anyone else doing something so reckless would have been banned from the mountain but the rules don't apply to Kennedy's. That's who they ARE!

The rule of death applies to the Kennedy's..

 

[Rustic]

To get a license to drive you must take a test and demonstrate that you have at least read the rules concerning drunk driving and how driving drunk fucks up the mind. So, one having a driving license who kills while driving drunk is a murderer and knowingly so, having passed the test demonstrating knowledge of the effects of driving drunk and the consequences of those actions.

First of all, that really wasn't covered back in the 1940's or whenever Ted got his first driver's license. It's only recently that MADD and the other goody-two-shoes told us that impaired driving was the worst thing ever.

Second, there was no real evidence drunk driving caused the accident. More likely it was an unlit bridge with no guard rails.

Ted Kennedy had more alcohol in his bloodstream than he did blood... Fact
He was constantly drunk on the Senate floor too

 

[Rustic]

He was a coward and a pussy that ran away from the scene and let a young girl perish while he saved his own ass. Democrats rewarded him by keeping him in the Senate.

Or he was a guy who was in an accident, just like Laura Bush was, but you guys don't go around calling her nasty names.

Or Mitt Romney, who was in an accident where some poor French Farmer was killed.

Mitt Romney is nothing more than a failed failed businessman and a progressive career politician... That’s why they call him Souless Rommey...

 

[evenflow1969]

What does the reference to "you" in the headline mean? I would think that everyone who was an adult at the time of this woman's death who had any involvement in this event either is deceased or in a nursing home somewhere.

My old man is still working, golfing, and even excercising. He drinks a little earlyer in the day than hje use too, but he is still around. At any rate. There were litterally 100's of millions of both Democrats and Republicans around during and since this event took place neither removed him from the senate nor put him in jail. Here is the thing that we have forgotton. We as a generation are responsible for the events that happen in our time. The combination of all the political phylosophies dictate what happens during our time period. The out come of our works is a responsibility of all that were aound and involved at the time not divided amongst the parties. If we fuck this up history will remember our generation as losers not just the parties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Oldstyle]

He was a coward and a pussy that ran away from the scene and let a young girl perish while he saved his own ass. Democrats rewarded him by keeping him in the Senate.

Or he was a guy who was in an accident, just like Laura Bush was, but you guys don't go around calling her nasty names.

Or Mitt Romney, who was in an accident where some poor French Farmer was killed.

Mitt Romney is nothing more than a failed failed businessman and a progressive career politician... That’s why they call him Souless Rommey...

How do you arrive at the conclusion that Mitt Romney was a "failed" businessman? Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[JoeB131]

And when the person driving the car is drunk...it's called vehicular homicide! Everything Ted Kennedy did that night SCREAMS guilt! What happened afterward screams WHITEWASH!

Well, except the investigation afterwards cleared him of most wrongdoing.. but other than that.

I find it amusing that you've found one case where a rich person getting over was bad.

The problem was the questionable mortgages...which Bush 43 pointed out...at which point Democrats like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd assured us all that there was no problem. For you to turn around and then blame Bush for the subsequent real estate crash which triggered the overall economic crash is blind partisanship.

Well, no, the problem was the questionable mortgages were sold as investments. They were sold as you would get the value of the house AND all the mortgage payments.

And frankly, Bush-43 was cheering on the home buying much louder than Frank or Dodd, who were in the minority party and couldn't do anything about it anyway.

 

[JoeB131]

The Kennedy family is the closest thing we'll ever have to having an American "Royal Family"! The Kennedy name has gotten some of the biggest idiots ever to enter politics elected to office.

really?

JFK is often rated as one of the best presidents. Bobby Kennedy is seen as a man of integrity. Teddy did a lot of great things. Great if you aren't a "Greed is Good" asshole living in mortal fear a poor person might get a food stamp.

I can excuse boorish behavior if we get policies that good for the country.

 

[JoeB131]

How do you arrive at the conclusion that Mitt Romney was a "failed" businessman? Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Need I go on?

 

[sartre play]

The Democrats let a lot of there people get away with things that should not have happened. now I guess the Republicans think its only fair to let there people getaway with things that should not happen. where does that leave us?

 

[JoeB131]

The Democrats let a lot of there people get away with things that should not have happened. now I guess the Republicans think its only fair to let there people getaway with things that should not happen. where does that leave us?

Spending a lot of time worrying about nothing, really.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Kennedy family is the closest thing we'll ever have to having an American "Royal Family"! The Kennedy name has gotten some of the biggest idiots ever to enter politics elected to office.

really?

JFK is often rated as one of the best presidents. Bobby Kennedy is seen as a man of integrity. Teddy did a lot of great things. Great if you aren't a "Greed is Good" asshole living in mortal fear a poor person might get a food stamp.

I can excuse boorish behavior if we get policies that good for the country.

JFK is rated as one of the "best" Presidents by people who bought into the "Camelot" image and didn't look at his policy fuck ups. He's a mediocre President at best. The Kennedy's that I was actually referring to however were Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy Jr. and Caroline Kennedy...three people that were talked about for high public office even though they were idiots.

 

[Oldstyle]

How do you arrive at the conclusion that Mitt Romney was a "failed" businessman? Nothing could be further from the truth.

GS Steel- Bankrupt
KB Toys- Bankrupt
AmPad- Bankrupt

Need I go on?

Bain Capital...need I go on?

 

[JoeB131]

JFK is rated as one of the "best" Presidents by people who bought into the "Camelot" image and didn't look at his policy fuck ups. He's a mediocre President at best. The Kennedy's that I was actually referring to however were Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy Jr. and Caroline Kennedy...three people that were talked about for high public office even though they were idiots.

Compared to who? YOu guys put an idiot in the white House Most Americans didn't want.

Bain Capital...need I go on?

You mean the company that looted all those other ones I listed, stole their pensions, cancelled their health insurance (some of them died)... that Bain Capital.

Remind me again how well Bain Capital played in 2012?

 

[Oldstyle]

JFK is rated as one of the "best" Presidents by people who bought into the "Camelot" image and didn't look at his policy fuck ups. He's a mediocre President at best. The Kennedy's that I was actually referring to however were Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy Jr. and Caroline Kennedy...three people that were talked about for high public office even though they were idiots.

Compared to who? YOu guys put an idiot in the white House Most Americans didn't want.

Bain Capital...need I go on?

You mean the company that looted all those other ones I listed, stole their pensions, cancelled their health insurance (some of them died)... that Bain Capital.

Remind me again how well Bain Capital played in 2012?

Actually, Joey...YOU GUYS put Trump in the White House because you ran Hillary Clinton as your candidate!

As for Bain Capital? Did you want to change your stance that Romney was a bad businessman to...he was a ruthless bastard? Yes, Bain Capital sold off parts of failing companies! They didn't steal anyone's pension because those people wouldn't have gotten a pension if the company they worked for went belly up and all of the companies you listed were going to go belly up!

 

[Markle]

The crash that happened in 2008 was because Bush-43 thought that home buying was a wonderful thing. He not only did nothing to prevent it, he encouraged it. Here's video of Dubya talking about how fucking wonderful it was all these poor folks were buying houses.

For many years the President and his Administration not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

2001
April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

2002
May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

2003
January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years. [Obama advisor, Franklin Raines was CEO of Freddie Mac when they lied about earnings to increase bonuses]

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03).

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03).

2004
February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)



February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04).

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04).

2005
April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05).

2007
July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07).

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07).

2008
January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08).

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08).

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08).

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

· “Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08).

· “[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08).

· “Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08).

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08).

July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.

Just the Facts: The Administration’s Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs

 

[Markle]

Mitt Romney is nothing more than a failed failed businessman

He's a multi-millionaire. If that's a failed businessman, I wish I had failed too.

He also took over the failed 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City turning it into a highly profitable venture.

 

[jasonnfree]

Three hundred posts of mostly democrat bad, republican good.
So here's my contribution ...."gotta get them weapons of mass destruction" .... This republican screw up cost this country trillions. Even worse than when howdy doody did the illegal Iran Contra deal. Republican bad again.

 

[Markle]

How do you arrive at the conclusion that Mitt Romney was a "failed" businessman? Nothing could be further from the truth.

GS Steel- Bankrupt
KB Toys- Bankrupt
AmPad- Bankrupt

Need I go on?

That's what consulting firms do. They go in, analyze and if they deem the company as not being worth saving, they liquidate the firm.

How many airlines have gone bankrupt and are still flying?

Management consulting
Recruited by several firms in 1975, Romney joined the Boston Consulting Group (BCG), reasoning that working as a management consultant for a variety of companies would better prepare him for a future position as a chief executive.[56][59][nb 8] Part of a 1970s wave of top graduates who chose to go into consulting rather than join a large company directly,[61] he found his legal and business education useful in his job.[56] He applied BCG principles such as the growth-share matrix,[62] and executives viewed him as having a bright future there.[56][63] At the Boston Consulting Group, he was a colleague of Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he formed a friendship that has lasted for more than forty years.[64]

In 1977, he was hired by Bain & Company, a management consulting firm in Boston formed a few years earlier by Bill Bain and several other ex-BCG employees.[56][62][65] Bain himself would later say of the thirty-year-old Romney, "He had the appearance [sic] of confidence of a guy who was maybe ten years older."[66] Unlike other consulting firms, which issued recommendations and then departed, Bain & Company immersed itself in a clients' businesses and worked with them until changes were implemented.[56][62] Romney became a vice-president of the firm in 1978,[15] working with such clients as the Monsanto Company, Outboard Marine Corporation, Burlington Industries, and Corning Incorporated.[59] Within a few years, the firm considered him one of its best consultants. In fact, clients sometimes preferred to use him rather than more-senior partners.[56][67]

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, Joey...YOU GUYS put Trump in the White House because you ran Hillary Clinton as your candidate!

That's like saying, "You got raped because you wore a short dress."

As for Bain Capital? Did you want to change your stance that Romney was a bad businessman to...he was a ruthless bastard?

Um, actually, those two statements aren't contradictory. He made a lot of money putting people out of jobs, wrecking companies, leaving third parties with shitloads of debt.

When the poor steal, it's called crime.
When the rich steal, it's called profits.

Yes, Bain Capital sold off parts of failing companies! They didn't steal anyone's pension because those people wouldn't have gotten a pension if the company they worked for went belly up and all of the companies you listed were going to go belly up!

Except none of those companies had real problems until Bain acquired them, loaded them down with debt, paid themselves huge profits and then declared bankruptcy and got out. So the workers got screwed, the lenders got screwed, and you think this is a good thing.

This is why Republicans are kind of fucked up. You take guys who are grifters like Trump and Romney, guys who really didn't build anything, they just manipulated a system, and you call them successes.

 

[JoeB131]

That's what consulting firms do. They go in, analyze and if they deem the company as not being worth saving, they liquidate the firm.

Okay,, buddy, you can tell yourself that. But when voters found out what Romney was, they said, "No thanks".

And that was without going into his crazy-ass Mormon beliefs, which should have been a disqualifier in and of itself.