Renewables have won the race against coal

[bripat9643]

How do you poison an aquifer by drilling thousands and thousands of feet below it?

Your Romper Room degree is paying off well sir.

Any faults would have to be at the level of the aquifer, which is only a short segment of the bore hole. Furthermore, there's no natural pressure in the well until they do the frack. If there was a leak, they would know it when they were testing the well. Any "leakage" from abandoned wells would be into the atmosphere, and why would anyone abandon a well that was still producing natural gas?

Your diagram is total fiction. Furthermore, it shows that gas can get into an aquifer by means other than fracking.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How do you poison an aquifer by drilling thousands and thousands of feet below it?

Your Romper Room degree is paying off well sir.

Gravity works dumbass!

Explain how something not under pressure moves up against the force of gravity.

Even if there was minimal pressure with contaminants escaping upward to the aquifer, do you understand the concept of dilution?

 

[bripat9643]

Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?

No, we can't agree on that.

why not? why would finding new, viable sources of energy not be a good thing?

are you a luddite and hate progress?

We aren't talking about finding anything. We're talking about vast subsidies.

 

[bripat9643]

I live in a state with a very liberal/progressive Democrat Governor that is also a big fracking state. It is very highly regulated and monitored. They also pay huge taxes, and extraction and impact fees. The state makes a lot of money, and there have been no negative environmental issues. It has provided thousands of good paying jobs, and helped to keep domestic energy prices low. Many small towns that were depressed are now booming. It is a huge win/win.

Temporary. I live near dozens of dried up oil towns down in E Texas and NW Louisiana.
Go to Monroe or Oil City sometime and taste the tap water.

I'll bet your tap water doesn't even come from a well!

When I lived in Anaheim CA the tap water tasted like crap.

I lived in Florida for years and the water tasted like crap because it contains sulphur. You smell like rotten eggs when you get out of the shower!

I heard parts of North Texas are like that.
Bottled water is a huge business in abandoned oil towns for
some reason.

The water always tasted like shit there.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?

No, we can't agree on that.

why not? why would finding new, viable sources of energy not be a good thing?

are you a luddite and hate progress?

We aren't talking about finding anything. We're talking about vast subsidies.

you just spent an hour defending vast subsidies, please make up your mind

 

[bripat9643]

Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?

No, we can't agree on that.

why not? why would finding new, viable sources of energy not be a good thing?

are you a luddite and hate progress?

We aren't talking about finding anything. We're talking about vast subsidies.

you just spent an hour defending vast subsidies, please make up your mind

Wrong. I debunked your idiotic conception of what the word "subsidy" means.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?

No, we can't agree on that.

why not? why would finding new, viable sources of energy not be a good thing?

are you a luddite and hate progress?

We aren't talking about finding anything. We're talking about vast subsidies.

you just spent an hour defending vast subsidies, please make up your mind

Wrong. I debunked your idiotic conception of what the word "subsidy" means.

 

[the other mike]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

How do you know this was caused by fracking?

It could be a lousy plumber!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Can we all at least agree that if this were true, it would be a good thing?

But it's not true.

Can we all at least agree that double think new speak is a bad thing?

 

[bripat9643]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

Fracking-Contaminated Groundwater: The Myth that Failed

 

[bripat9643]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

How do you know this was caused by fracking?

It could be a lousy plumber!

it isn't true. It's a myth:

Fracking-Contaminated Groundwater: The Myth that Failed

 

[the other mike]

The trolls are out en force today .

 

[the other mike]

 

[the other mike]

Down in the bayou I got my bio- fuel farm.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

How do you know this was caused by fracking?

It could be a lousy plumber!

it isn't true. It's a myth:

Fracking-Contaminated Groundwater: The Myth that Failed

I know.

 

[Dick Foster]

And are beginning to beat natural gas.
Renewables ‘have won the race’ against coal and are starting to beat natural gas

Are you INSANE?

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If renewable power multiplied 10 fold in the next year, it still wouldn't touch coal.

You people.... you claim to be so scientific, so forward looking, so into technology, and then you spout off the world is going to end in 12 years, planes will be replaced by fart-less cows, and renewable power has over taken coal?????

You people are the absolute dumbest, most ignorant, myth believing flat-earthers on the planet. Good night, how stupid you people must be. No wonder the the green energy companies love you people, who make the super wealthy get tons of corporate welfare from your tax money.

It's kinda hard for lefties to understand science and engineering issues with some kind of bullshit arts degree in gay art history or similar. They are experts at running their mouths however. They also have very active imaginations where the tooth fairy and Santa Claus are real.

 

[bripat9643]

The Fracking Industry’s Water Nightmare

"Close the books" on the fracking contaminates ground water myth

In some of the biggest news which will not come as “news” to anyone who follows the industry, the Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality concluded a two year study this week into reports of ground water contamination in Pavillion, Wyoming. There had been reports of “foul smelling water” in two test wells drilled by the EPA near one of the many drilling sites in the gas field half a decade ago. The initial EPA report which was ready to blame fracking for the contamination immediately came under heavy criticism in the scientific community and was never released. Still the Wyoming DEQ went ahead with this extensive investigation. Their conclusion? There was no contamination of the ground water from the drilling sites and the EPA most likely caused the problem themselves. (Associated Press)

A final state report released Thursday on foul-smelling well water in Wyoming contradicts an EPA report from five years ago that ignited a national backlash when it suggested hydraulic fracturing was the cause of the contamination.

Bacteria were more likely to blame for the problem in Pavillion than the oil and gas drilling process known as fracking, officials with the Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality said after a two-year study that was hailed by fracking advocates.

“Today’s announcement from the Wyoming DEQ doesn’t just close the case on Pavillion, it’s a knockout blow for activists who have tried to use Pavillion as a key talking point for their ban-fracking agenda,” said Randy Hildreth, Colorado director of Energy in Depth, an advocacy arm of the Independent Petroleum Association of America.

The AP story really doesn’t go into the level of detail we need to fully grasp what a debacle this is for the EPA. To get those sorts of facts you’ll want to see the analysis – complete with photos – over at Energy Indepth. Since the contaminants found in the test wells didn’t match anything going into the ground at the fracking site, the DEQ finally sent a camera down into the wells. What do you suppose they found? First of all, the EPA well was drilled in a defective fashion. The artificial materials in the well almost certainly came from the drilling process when the EPA dug the wells.

Second, the junk they allowed in there clogged the screens down at the base of the well. This allowed stagnant, standing water to build up at the bottom and it became infested with bacteria and biological agents. (As happens with any stagnant pools of water.) The bacterial infestation was what was causing the smell. The origin of the problem the EPA has been complaining about since 2011 was almost certainly caused by… you guessed it… the EPA. Randy Hildreth at Energy Indepth explains why this should close the books on these claims by anti-fracking activists once and for all.​

 

[the other mike]

It's kinda hard for lefties to understand science and engineering issues with some kind of bullshit arts degree in gay art history or similar. They are experts at running their mouths however. They also have very active imaginations where the tooth fairy and Santa Claus are real.

This isn't a right-left issue.
Nice deflection Huckleberry.

 

[bripat9643]

Down in the bayou I got my bio- fuel farm.
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How many acres of land will that process destroy?