Repealing the second amendment...

[g5000]

Japan operates under Plan A:

Prohibitions on the Possession of Firearms and Swords

Articles 3 and 22 through 22-4 of the Law outline general prohibitions on the possession of firearms and swords. Unless otherwise provided by a specific provision, the Law prohibits the following: possession of a firearm, handgun part, handgun ammunition, imitation handgun, or a mock arm with intent to sell;' 0 import of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition;"l conveyance of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition; 12 receipt of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition;' 3 the firing of an Article 3-4 Handgun in a public place such as a public road, park, station, theater, and department store or on or at public transportation; 4 the carrying of a sword with a blade length of greater than six centimeters,1 5 or an imitation sword;' 6 or the failure to report a recovered firearm or sword 17 or the loss or theft of a registered firearm or sword.'

 

[g5000]

And how about Britain...they banned and confiscated guns....and their gun crime rate has only gone up.....27% across the whole country last year, and up 42% in London alone, and their violent crime rate is higher than ours and going up....

The UK's violent crime rate is not higher than ours.

You lied.

What? You mean with guns right?

No, I mean violent crime.

A fake meme went around pseudocon circles a few years back, and some tards are still parroting it.

 

[rightwinger]

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

There you go. Japan operates under Plan A.

You mean Japan doesn't have 300 million guns in circulation?

How do they keep their murder rate so low without guns to protect them?

 

[g5000]

The US should let go of its love for guns....is becoming laughable.
Check any news outlet you will read, hear and see the following:
Son kills his entire family
Husband kills his entire family.
Work shooting.
Preschool shooting.
Freeway shooting.
Church shooting.
Game shooting.

Do gun lovers know that most of the world doesn't have this madness, they you even know what leaving without guns feels like?
I do i lived ina gun free country , it' fucking pathetic that you guys love guns and violence.

Firearms have no control over people, most people learn that grade school

We have countries with strict gun laws and we have the US. Americans are dying by thousands shot and killed because firearms are all 9ver the place....what is it hard to understand?

You have countries with strict gun laws, like Britain and Australia where their gun crime rates are going up.....and then you have the United States where they keep buying and carrying more guns, and their gun crime rate goes down, their gun murder rate goes down and their violent crime rate goes down.....

That is the truth. Please explain it.

The United States

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Britain


U.K. Begins Another Gun Surrender Initiative Amid Increase in Gun Crime

The United Kingdom's National Ballistics Intelligence Service (NABIS) is conducting a new gun surrender program from Nov. 13 to Nov. 26 after gun crime in England and Wales increased by more than a quarter in the past year.

The Office for National Statistics found a 27 percent increase in crimes involving firearms during its most recent review of crime data. Despite a near ban on the civilian ownership of handguns the review found crimes committed with handguns increased by 25 percent and accounted for the majority of gun crimes. The agency said the increases in 2016 were part of a multiyear trend.

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics


Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

The percentage of Americans who own guns has dropped precipitously since the 70s.

The only response tards have to this fact is "I am psychic and know that when people are asked they lie about owning a gun!"

 

[2aguy]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

No....dumb shit......plan A didn't effect criminals...the Yakuza used all the guns they wanted......what stopped them was long prison sentences.....Japanese people are law abiding and respect authority, they can have all the guns they want and their gun crime rate would still be almost zero.......

The Yakuza ignored the laws....and used guns when they wanted to murder each other.....they stopped doing that when faced with long prison sentences...

You guys are so fucking dumb...

 

[Crixus]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

Wrong asshole. Ever seen a .50 cal airgun?

Japanese gun laws (Masaaki Ishida)

From: Masaaki Ishida <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun regulation in Japan
Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:18:06 -0400
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Lines: 340

Since I got a question about gun ownership, I present this article.
Sorry for my poor written English.
I'm glad other people posts similar information about their nation's gun
regulation.



How to Own Guns in Japan
==========================

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun


You won’t approve of the source because it wasn’t Steve Cobare or whatever, but Japanes folks can have guns. They do have guns. And they have had issues with mass killings, tell me, when’s the last time a group of people were attacked with nerve gas? This happened in Japan. You are wrapped up in all the drama man, you should be asking why people feel the need to try and kill all those people in the first place.

 

[2aguy]

The US should let go of its love for guns....is becoming laughable.
Check any news outlet you will read, hear and see the following:
Son kills his entire family
Husband kills his entire family.
Work shooting.
Preschool shooting.
Freeway shooting.
Church shooting.
Game shooting.

Do gun lovers know that most of the world doesn't have this madness, they you even know what leaving without guns feels like?
I do i lived ina gun free country , it' fucking pathetic that you guys love guns and violence.

Firearms have no control over people, most people learn that grade school

We have countries with strict gun laws and we have the US. Americans are dying by thousands shot and killed because firearms are all 9ver the place....what is it hard to understand?

You have countries with strict gun laws, like Britain and Australia where their gun crime rates are going up.....and then you have the United States where they keep buying and carrying more guns, and their gun crime rate goes down, their gun murder rate goes down and their violent crime rate goes down.....

That is the truth. Please explain it.

The United States

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Britain


U.K. Begins Another Gun Surrender Initiative Amid Increase in Gun Crime

The United Kingdom's National Ballistics Intelligence Service (NABIS) is conducting a new gun surrender program from Nov. 13 to Nov. 26 after gun crime in England and Wales increased by more than a quarter in the past year.

The Office for National Statistics found a 27 percent increase in crimes involving firearms during its most recent review of crime data. Despite a near ban on the civilian ownership of handguns the review found crimes committed with handguns increased by 25 percent and accounted for the majority of gun crimes. The agency said the increases in 2016 were part of a multiyear trend.

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics


Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

The percentage of Americans who own guns has dropped precipitously since the 70s.

The only response tards have to this fact is "I am psychic and know that when people are asked they lie about owning a gun!"

No, it hasn't...the number of people responding to polls on gun ownership has dropped while minorities and women, people who didn't own guns in the past, are now buying guns in record numbers....

 

[g5000]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

No....dumb shit......plan A didn't effect criminals...the Yakuza used all the guns they wanted......what stopped them was long prison sentences.....Japanese people are law abiding and respect authority, they can have all the guns they want and their gun crime rate would still be almost zero.......

The Yakuza ignored the laws....and used guns when they wanted to murder each other.....they stopped doing that when faced with long prison sentences...

You guys are so fucking dumb...

Japan has a total gun ban. And they enforce it.

Sorry, you really stepped in it now.

 

[Crixus]

And how about Britain...they banned and confiscated guns....and their gun crime rate has only gone up.....27% across the whole country last year, and up 42% in London alone, and their violent crime rate is higher than ours and going up....

The UK's violent crime rate is not higher than ours.

You lied.

What? You mean with guns right?

No, I mean violent crime.

A fake meme went around pseudocon circles a few years back, and some tards are still parroting it.

Mm. So what was considered “violent” crime?

 

[Crixus]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

No....dumb shit......plan A didn't effect criminals...the Yakuza used all the guns they wanted......what stopped them was long prison sentences.....Japanese people are law abiding and respect authority, they can have all the guns they want and their gun crime rate would still be almost zero.......

The Yakuza ignored the laws....and used guns when they wanted to murder each other.....they stopped doing that when faced with long prison sentences...

You guys are so fucking dumb...

Japan has a total gun ban. And they enforce it.

Sorry, you really stepped in it now.

No they don’t.

 

[g5000]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

Wrong asshole. Ever seen a .50 cal airgun?


View attachment 169153



Japanese gun laws (Masaaki Ishida)

From: Masaaki Ishida <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun regulation in Japan
Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:18:06 -0400
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Lines: 340

Since I got a question about gun ownership, I present this article.
Sorry for my poor written English.
I'm glad other people posts similar information about their nation's gun
regulation.



How to Own Guns in Japan
==========================

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun


You won’t approve of the source because it wasn’t Steve Cobare or whatever, but Japanes folks can have guns. They do have guns. And they have had issues with mass killings, tell me, when’s the last time a group of people were attacked with nerve gas? This happened in Japan. You are wrapped up in all the drama man, you should be asking why people feel the need to try and kill all those people in the first place.

A very small percentage of Japanese are allowed to own guns after going through extremely rigorous procedures.

There are not a lot of guns in Japan. Nothing like here.

As a result, their homicide rate is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of ours.

You are making a case for Japan's way of doing things.

Keep trying, tard. You fucked up by mentioning Japan.

 

[2aguy]

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

There you go. Japan operates under Plan A.

You mean Japan doesn't have 300 million guns in circulation?

How do they keep their murder rate so low without guns to protect them?

They have a police state....and a culture of submission to central authority....


Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't.


A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates.

Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

 

[Crixus]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

Wrong asshole. Ever seen a .50 cal airgun?


View attachment 169153



Japanese gun laws (Masaaki Ishida)

From: Masaaki Ishida <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun regulation in Japan
Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:18:06 -0400
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Lines: 340

Since I got a question about gun ownership, I present this article.
Sorry for my poor written English.
I'm glad other people posts similar information about their nation's gun
regulation.



How to Own Guns in Japan
==========================

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun


You won’t approve of the source because it wasn’t Steve Cobare or whatever, but Japanes folks can have guns. They do have guns. And they have had issues with mass killings, tell me, when’s the last time a group of people were attacked with nerve gas? This happened in Japan. You are wrapped up in all the drama man, you should be asking why people feel the need to try and kill all those people in the first place.

A very small percentage of Japanese are allowed to own guns after going through extremely rigorous procedures.

There are not a lot of guns in Japan. Nothing like here.

You are making a case for Japan's way of doing things.

Keep trying, tard. You fucked up by mentioning Japan.

You are so damn ignorant. I mean, did you ever even leave the Deep South?

 

[rightwinger]

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

There you go. Japan operates under Plan A.

You mean Japan doesn't have 300 million guns in circulation?

How do they keep their murder rate so low without guns to protect them?

They have a police state....and a culture of submission to central authority....


Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't.


A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates.

Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

Who needs guns?

Japan shows us that guns are unnecessary in a civilized society

 

[rightwinger]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

Wrong asshole. Ever seen a .50 cal airgun?


View attachment 169153



Japanese gun laws (Masaaki Ishida)

From: Masaaki Ishida <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun regulation in Japan
Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:18:06 -0400
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Lines: 340

Since I got a question about gun ownership, I present this article.
Sorry for my poor written English.
I'm glad other people posts similar information about their nation's gun
regulation.



How to Own Guns in Japan
==========================

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun


You won’t approve of the source because it wasn’t Steve Cobare or whatever, but Japanes folks can have guns. They do have guns. And they have had issues with mass killings, tell me, when’s the last time a group of people were attacked with nerve gas? This happened in Japan. You are wrapped up in all the drama man, you should be asking why people feel the need to try and kill all those people in the first place.

A very small percentage of Japanese are allowed to own guns after going through extremely rigorous procedures.

There are not a lot of guns in Japan. Nothing like here.

As a result, their homicide rate is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of ours.

You are making a case for Japan's way of doing things.

Keep trying, tard. You fucked up by mentioning Japan.

Japan proves that strict gun control works

 

[2aguy]

Japan operates under Plan A:

Prohibitions on the Possession of Firearms and Swords

Articles 3 and 22 through 22-4 of the Law outline general prohibitions on the possession of firearms and swords. Unless otherwise provided by a specific provision, the Law prohibits the following: possession of a firearm, handgun part, handgun ammunition, imitation handgun, or a mock arm with intent to sell;' 0 import of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition;"l conveyance of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition; 12 receipt of an Article 3-4 Handgun, a handgun part, or handgun ammunition;' 3 the firing of an Article 3-4 Handgun in a public place such as a public road, park, station, theater, and department store or on or at public transportation; 4 the carrying of a sword with a blade length of greater than six centimeters,1 5 or an imitation sword;' 6 or the failure to report a recovered firearm or sword 17 or the loss or theft of a registered firearm or sword.'

And the Yakuza ignored it....for decades....using guns and grenades to murder each other when they decided to start murdering each other.......

Again.....the only reason the Yakuza stopped using guns as often.....the Japanese government put long prison sentences on gun crimes....nothing else stopped them from using guns....

WE have repeat gun offenders who fire their guns and are out on bail walking the streets, and if they are finally convicted they serve less than 3 years........that is the problem...not law abiding gun owners...

Japan’s gun control laws so strict the Yakuza turn to toy pistols



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty.

The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

 

[g5000]

As I said in my first post, it cannot be denied that strict gun control results in reduced homicide rates. Japan and UK nave been mentioned by fools who didn't realize those countries prove my point.


So we keep coming back to my question. What superior idea do pseudocons have for reducing the 10,000 annual gun homicides every year that does not involve strict gun control laws?


So far, they have provided nothing but evidence that strict gun control works.


Plan A: Repeal the Second Amendment

Plan B: Japan and UK!

 

[g5000]

Plan A in Japan: Law Controlling Possession, Etc. of Fire-Arms and Swords" (1978), Law No 6, Art 3, EHS Law Bulletin Series, No 3920.

"No one shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords"

Wrong asshole. Ever seen a .50 cal airgun?


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Japanese gun laws (Masaaki Ishida)

From: Masaaki Ishida <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun regulation in Japan
Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:18:06 -0400
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
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Since I got a question about gun ownership, I present this article.
Sorry for my poor written English.
I'm glad other people posts similar information about their nation's gun
regulation.



How to Own Guns in Japan
==========================

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun


You won’t approve of the source because it wasn’t Steve Cobare or whatever, but Japanes folks can have guns. They do have guns. And they have had issues with mass killings, tell me, when’s the last time a group of people were attacked with nerve gas? This happened in Japan. You are wrapped up in all the drama man, you should be asking why people feel the need to try and kill all those people in the first place.

A very small percentage of Japanese are allowed to own guns after going through extremely rigorous procedures.

There are not a lot of guns in Japan. Nothing like here.

As a result, their homicide rate is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of ours.

You are making a case for Japan's way of doing things.

Keep trying, tard. You fucked up by mentioning Japan.

Japan proves that strict gun control works

Exactly.

 

[2aguy]

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

There you go. Japan operates under Plan A.

You mean Japan doesn't have 300 million guns in circulation?

How do they keep their murder rate so low without guns to protect them?

They have a police state....and a culture of submission to central authority....


Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't.


A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates.

Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

Who needs guns?

Japan shows us that guns are unnecessary in a civilized society

Japan is a police state.......they can search you anytime, anyplace, for any reason and if you are arrested you are going to be convicted.....

You asswipes get your panties in a bunch if cops even look at known violent gang bangers the wrong way let alone searching them on the street for guns...

 

[2aguy]

As I said in my first post, it cannot be denied that strict gun control results in reduced homicide rates. Japan and UK nave been mentioned by fools who didn't realize those countries prove my point.


So we keep coming back to my question. What superior idea do pseudocons have for reducing the 10,000 annual gun homicides every year that does not involve strict gun control laws?


So far, they have provided nothing but evidence that strict gun control works.


Plan A: Repeal the Second Amendment

Plan B: Japan and UK!

We have shown that the only way to reduce gun crime is long prison sentences.

We have shown that banning and confiscating guns in Britain has led to more gun crime, and more violent crime, not less.

Nothing you have posted is even remotely true or factual.