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Ummm ...You mean just pick up their anchor baby and return to mexico?Only you do not want illegals deported and the border sealedSince they won't be and we continue to allow them to work, we need to make sure they can drive safely.
both of which can and should be done
If the jobs are cut off, they deport themselves.
I dont think so
and when they refuse to leave I dont think bleeding heart libs will let them starve
There is a huge problem. It's called the 18th amendment. You know, that pesky thing called the Constitution?
Amendment XVIII
Section 1.
After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
Section 2.
The Congress and the several states shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several states, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the states by the Congress.
The refugee exception is a giant loopholeAnd tighten the refugee loopholeThey need to be arrested and deported in any event. They are afterall, ILLEGAL!No, we need to arrest and deport them if caught driving without a drivers license.
There are a lot of problems with that which includes the litigation to have them legally deported. Trump tried to institute a fast track system, but the leftist courts shot it down. He's doing everything he can, so the priority are those who are criminals.
As I mentioned earlier, the only thing that would work is create a law that getting caught being here illegally is a minimum of five years in prison. That would do the trick for both, border crossers and Visa overstays.
One problem, Rumps idea didn't allow for due process. Even a Canine has some form of due process under the law. The answer is still expand the number of Immigration Courts until they get the up to 2 year backlog taken care of.
The problem isn't the loopholes. It's the fact that we have Due Process by law and that includes people in Immigration Court, we have only so many Immigration Courts and we also have only so many beds to keep people waiting for arraignment. I believe the law is 60 days but some want it changed to 20 days. I don't mind the change if we get the additional courts as well. Even with the 60 days, they still have to play Catch and Release way too much of the time.
Ummm ...You mean just pick up their anchor baby and return to mexico?Only you do not want illegals deported and the border sealed
both of which can and should be done
If the jobs are cut off, they deport themselves.
I dont think so
and when they refuse to leave I dont think bleeding heart libs will let them starve
There is a huge problem. It's called the 18th amendment. You know, that pesky thing called the Constitution?
Amendment XVIII
Section 1.
After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
Section 2.
The Congress and the several states shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several states, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the states by the Congress.
So I got gave the wrong amendment number. It's the 14th. You could have correct just than and moved on. instead of firing up your cut and paste and corrected nothing. Did that make you feel larger than life, A...hole.
Dragonfly is a canadianIllegal immigrant didn't "break in", they're being openly invited by employers to come to America.
Employers don't have the legal ability to invite them anywhere. If anything, it's the Democrat party inviting them in.
When our yard was overrun with raccoons, we discovered our third floor tenant was feeding them. Putting bowls of food out on her deck. Not only did the raccoons come back, but they brought their friends, their kids, and the whole problem got worse.
And how is that different than allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses in the US?
Dragonlady is correct. If the Jobs weren't there inviting them in, there wouldn't be any way you could blame it on the Democrats because they would stay home. One of the reasons that Mexico tries to hire almost anyone willing to work coming up south of them is that in certain areas, there is a shortage of workers. And in those industrial areas in Mexico, they don't have the drug cartels because the Uber Rich have their own private armies.
Dragonfly is a canadianIllegal immigrant didn't "break in", they're being openly invited by employers to come to America.
Employers don't have the legal ability to invite them anywhere. If anything, it's the Democrat party inviting them in.
When our yard was overrun with raccoons, we discovered our third floor tenant was feeding them. Putting bowls of food out on her deck. Not only did the raccoons come back, but they brought their friends, their kids, and the whole problem got worse.
And how is that different than allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses in the US?
Dragonlady is correct. If the Jobs weren't there inviting them in, there wouldn't be any way you could blame it on the Democrats because they would stay home. One of the reasons that Mexico tries to hire almost anyone willing to work coming up south of them is that in certain areas, there is a shortage of workers. And in those industrial areas in Mexico, they don't have the drug cartels because the Uber Rich have their own private armies.
Her opinion on subjects involving the US is worthless
The states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?
It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
Dragonfly is a canadianIllegal immigrant didn't "break in", they're being openly invited by employers to come to America.
Employers don't have the legal ability to invite them anywhere. If anything, it's the Democrat party inviting them in.
When our yard was overrun with raccoons, we discovered our third floor tenant was feeding them. Putting bowls of food out on her deck. Not only did the raccoons come back, but they brought their friends, their kids, and the whole problem got worse.
And how is that different than allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses in the US?
Dragonlady is correct. If the Jobs weren't there inviting them in, there wouldn't be any way you could blame it on the Democrats because they would stay home. One of the reasons that Mexico tries to hire almost anyone willing to work coming up south of them is that in certain areas, there is a shortage of workers. And in those industrial areas in Mexico, they don't have the drug cartels because the Uber Rich have their own private armies.
Her opinion on subjects involving the US is worthless
What liar and what lie?You mean just pick up their anchor baby and return to mexico?Only you do not want illegals deported and the border sealedIllegal aliens should be deported instead of coddled by giving them permission to drive on our streets
Since they won't be and we continue to allow them to work, we need to make sure they can drive safely.
both of which can and should be done
If the jobs are cut off, they deport themselves.
I dont think so
and when they refuse to leave I dont think bleeding heart libs will let them starve
No, 20 million people can not be fed. The sad part is that you know you are supporting a liar.
The refugee exception is a giant loopholeAnd tighten the refugee loopholeThey need to be arrested and deported in any event. They are afterall, ILLEGAL!
There are a lot of problems with that which includes the litigation to have them legally deported. Trump tried to institute a fast track system, but the leftist courts shot it down. He's doing everything he can, so the priority are those who are criminals.
As I mentioned earlier, the only thing that would work is create a law that getting caught being here illegally is a minimum of five years in prison. That would do the trick for both, border crossers and Visa overstays.
One problem, Rumps idea didn't allow for due process. Even a Canine has some form of due process under the law. The answer is still expand the number of Immigration Courts until they get the up to 2 year backlog taken care of.
The problem isn't the loopholes. It's the fact that we have Due Process by law and that includes people in Immigration Court, we have only so many Immigration Courts and we also have only so many beds to keep people waiting for arraignment. I believe the law is 60 days but some want it changed to 20 days. I don't mind the change if we get the additional courts as well. Even with the 60 days, they still have to play Catch and Release way too much of the time.
the states do not collect taxes and then turn the loot over to theThe states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?
It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
But the progressive income tax is a creation by the federal legislature. It can be changed with a simple maj vote. There's only one way to change it.The states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?
It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
She is never correct on any topic I’ve seen her post onDragonfly is a canadianIllegal immigrant didn't "break in", they're being openly invited by employers to come to America.
Employers don't have the legal ability to invite them anywhere. If anything, it's the Democrat party inviting them in.
When our yard was overrun with raccoons, we discovered our third floor tenant was feeding them. Putting bowls of food out on her deck. Not only did the raccoons come back, but they brought their friends, their kids, and the whole problem got worse.
And how is that different than allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses in the US?
Dragonlady is correct. If the Jobs weren't there inviting them in, there wouldn't be any way you could blame it on the Democrats because they would stay home. One of the reasons that Mexico tries to hire almost anyone willing to work coming up south of them is that in certain areas, there is a shortage of workers. And in those industrial areas in Mexico, they don't have the drug cartels because the Uber Rich have their own private armies.
Her opinion on subjects involving the US is worthless
It doesn't change the fact that she is correct on this subject.
the states do not collect taxes and them turn the loot over to theThe states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?
It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
federal government
Illegal immigrants are not coming to the US in order to get driver's licenses.
All countries issue them, they are easier to get on other countries, and the US has to recognize the use of foreign driver's licenses in the US.
So if we do not issue a driver's license to an undocumented immigrant in the US, we are not gaining anything.
All that means is they will still drive, but under foreign criteria that we will then have no input on.
And it is not legal for the TSA to demand a state driver's license as a federal ID anyway.
Lots of people do not drive or have a driver's license.
It can not legally be demanded by anyone except someone enforcing driving laws on a person driving.
If you want a federal citizenship ID, then pass a federal law creating one.
It is illegal to try to use extortion on states so that you can coopt their state driver's license.
But the progressive income tax is a creation by the federal legislature. It can be changed with a simple maj vote. There's only one way to change it.The states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?
It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
I could swear mah wife shuv's a chek made out ter dah feds unner my face ever year and maks me sign it.the states do not collect taxes and them turn the loot over to theThe states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
federal government
Actually, that's how it really works. You can feign ignorance if you wish.
Illegal immigrants are not coming to the US in order to get driver's licenses.
All countries issue them, they are easier to get on other countries, and the US has to recognize the use of foreign driver's licenses in the US.
So if we do not issue a driver's license to an undocumented immigrant in the US, we are not gaining anything.
All that means is they will still drive, but under foreign criteria that we will then have no input on.
And it is not legal for the TSA to demand a state driver's license as a federal ID anyway.
Lots of people do not drive or have a driver's license.
It can not legally be demanded by anyone except someone enforcing driving laws on a person driving.
If you want a federal citizenship ID, then pass a federal law creating one.
It is illegal to try to use extortion on states so that you can coopt their state driver's license.
Sure we can. Once we get rid of the Democrat leadership in Congress, watch how we pass it.
Nobody goes to Las Vegas for free drinks either, it's a perk that people consider when they are choosing a place to vacation. So drivers licenses are a perk that we should not be giving out to illegals. We should be making it as difficult as possible for them to be living here. A good deterrent works every time it's tried.
Ok, in all seriousness. You do realize that you must pay both state a federal taxes, based on different forms, each year? And you also realize you pay state/local property taxes separately?But the progressive income tax is a creation by the federal legislature. It can be changed with a simple maj vote. There's only one way to change it.The states send zero dollars to the fed govThe OP is a bit misleading, but the actual gop proposal is not insane. Halting all funding would be unconst under Roberts reasoning in denying the dems the power to force states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid dollars. Once the feds tie money to states doing "something" it should limit the fed's power to change what the "something" is.
But this money seems to be for law enforcement and courts. And as the link provided makes clearer, DL is only a portion. But basically is a local govt chooses not tell its law enforcement folks to cooperate with the DOJ in immigration issues, then the local jurisdiction may lose federal dollars that go to assting law enforcement.
And then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
If the Feds don't refund to the States then the States don't send the funds in the first place. One broken law is canceled out by another broken law.
Illegal immigrant didn't "break in", they're being openly invited by employers to come to America.
Employers don't have the legal ability to invite them anywhere. If anything, it's the Democrat party inviting them in.
When our yard was overrun with raccoons, we discovered our third floor tenant was feeding them. Putting bowls of food out on her deck. Not only did the raccoons come back, but they brought their friends, their kids, and the whole problem got worse.
And how is that different than allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses in the US?
Dragonlady is correct. If the Jobs weren't there inviting them in, there wouldn't be any way you could blame it on the Democrats because they would stay home. One of the reasons that Mexico tries to hire almost anyone willing to work coming up south of them is that in certain areas, there is a shortage of workers. And in those industrial areas in Mexico, they don't have the drug cartels because the Uber Rich have their own private armies.
I could swear mah wife shuv's a chek made out ter dah feds unner my face ever year and maks me sign it.the states do not collect taxes and them turn the loot over to theThe states send zero dollars to the fed govAnd then the States limit the amount they send to the Feds. Actually, I am for that type of program. Make the states stand on their own. Too much money ends up being channeled to poor Red States from Well Off Blue States to pay for the Red States mishandling of their own economy.
In a round about way, the states do. Here in Colorado, we are taxed in Federal Dollars at a 1.07 rate. We get one dollar back. The other .07 dollars is dispensed to states like Kansas, LA, GA, Alabama and South Dakota as well as Wyoming who are taxed at less than 1.00. And in case you haven't noticed, your employer doesn't send your FICA directly to the Federal IRS.. You honestly want them in charge of the day to day collecting those funds? I certainly don't. Instead, in Colorado it's sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue who forwards the Federals Cut to the Feds. So, in a way, the States DO pay the Feds. Can you imagine the mess if the States didn't do that? Just how big would the IRS have to become to handle it?
federal government
Actually, that's how it really works. You can feign ignorance if you wish.
